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Shane Battier says bigger fines is best deterrent to flopping

May 30, 2013, 4:25 PM EDT

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The NBA’s fine system for flopping this season was really based around the idea that guys would be embarrassed. The fines were not that stiff. In the regular season the first offense was a warning, second time the fine was $5,000, then $10,000 and up from there. In the playoffs, all they did was remove the warning.

As we saw LeBron James, David West and Lance Stephenson all get fined for flops on Thursday, safe to say it doesn’t look like it’s working.

If you really want it to stop, hit guys in the pocketbook, says Shane Battier of the Heat. I know, a lot of you just screamed “Him? He plays dirty. He’s a flopper” But hear the man out, via Tom Haberstroh at ESPN.

“Money,” Battier said. “Money, always….

“People say public scorn or the humiliation [matters],” Battier said, “but players couldn’t care less about being publicly humiliated. They couldn’t care less…

“No one cares,” Battier said. “In our society now, labels don’t matter. Labels change every 10 minutes. But money? It hurts. I hate to sound like a capitalist, but that’s much more effective than public humiliation.”

He’s right.

It’s not going to stop everybody in every case — flopping isn’t something new to the NBA, go back and watch some Vlade Divac highlights if you want to — but the public humiliation angle didn’t work. So it’s time to try something else.

  1. cakemixa - May 30, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    What is $5,000 to an NBA player, especially a star player? It’s like fining an average person $5 for always coming in to work late.

  2. benwobbles - May 30, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    What they should do is keep the fine at 5000$ but be more aggressive and fine them for every flop. This way players could be fined multiple times during the same game and see an itemized bill for 20,000+ in some players cases.

  3. 4thquartermagic - May 30, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    Even $50,000 fines in football (for helmet-to-helmet hits) don’t make players change the way they play..
    And thats in the NFL where players make much less on non-guaranteed contracts.

    The only deterrent that will make an impact is big money/suspensions.

    1 flop $100,000
    2 flop $200,000
    3 flops and your out.

    Simple as that.

    • gmsingh - Jun 1, 2013 at 10:02 AM

      I prefer flops to be the same as technicals: second one in a game and you’re ejected.

  4. azarkhan - May 30, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    “I hate to sound like a capitalist…” Ahhh, how sweet!

    Shane, it’s capitalism that allows you to make $3.1 million a year just for bouncing a ball. Oh, and it allows your teammate LeBron James to be paid $19.7 million in salary and roughly $30 million a year in endorsements.

    Of course, you don’t have to keep the filthy capitalist money you make. You could donate your entire salary to the poor. But I won’t hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

  5. sportsnut101 - May 30, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    How bought we fine them n we also suspend for a half of next game. That will cut it out real quick

  6. thenew013 - May 30, 2013 at 10:09 PM


  7. gmsingh - Jun 1, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    Battier is not right, Kurt. He doesn’t care because he’s a complete weasel. LeBron is constantly wondering why people don’t respect him more. For him public ridicule means everything. But then he’s not a fringe player that means almost nothing to the outcome of a game like Battier.

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