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Pacers’ Vogel says Heat have more “intelligent” plan vs. Hibbert than Knicks

May 24, 2013, 10:18 AM EDT

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Roy Hibbert made life difficult in the paint for the Knicks in the second round — we’ve all seen Hibbert block Carmelo Anthony’s shot at the rim but that is just the tip of the iceberg. He altered and blocked all kinds of shots inside and owned the paint.

The Miami heat scored 60 points in the paint in their Game 1 win.

Frank Vogel was asked about that and took a little dig at the Knicks with his answer, reports the Daily News.

“They had a more intelligent attack at the basket than New York did.”

Vogel was specifically talking about the way Miami was adept at dumping off the ball in the paint, and how that helped Chris Anderson score 16 points on 7-of-7 shooting.

What the Heat can do is twofold. One, even their big men can knock down outside shots — Chris Bosh has a good mid-range jumper (and can hit threes) and most of the time Udonis Haslem can knock down a17-foot baseline jumper, he just couldn’t in Game 1. Hibbert has to step away from the paint to cover that, opening up lanes.

The other part of this is as the report describes — Chris Andersen and other Heat players do a good job cutting to the basket when their man rotates over to help on a driving LeBron James or Dwyane Wade. The result can be dump offs and dunks.

Which is pretty intelligent. But I don’t think Mike Woodson is going to like the implication.

  1. azarkhan - May 24, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    No slam on Mike Woodson. He has to cater and defer to Carmelo Anthony, so the Knick plan of attack is give the ball to Carmelo and stand around and watch.

    • leahcima1 - May 24, 2013 at 11:55 AM

      I don’t understand why he has to “cater and defer to Carmelo Anthony”? Anthony has gotten out of the first round twice doing it his way, – shoot, shoot and shoot some more. Has he ever taken a charge? Doubt it. Has he ever average more than one or two assists a game? Doubt it. Has he ever played defense? Doubt it. Wow. This guy has talent. He can score. But the game is played on two ends of the court and to score while shooting under 40% and never sharing the ball is taking points off the board.

  2. leahcima1 - May 24, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Mike Woodson might not like the comments but the implication is accurate. A coach that doesn’t get his star to understand that isolation, hero ball doesn’t win playoff games isn’t a coach. A coach that cant get his star to realize the one assist a game isn’t going to win it isn’t a coach. A coach who plays Jason Kidd forever even though he hasn’t hit a basket in, – forever isn’t a coach. And on and on.

    • Kurt Helin - May 24, 2013 at 3:21 PM

      Is that on the coach? Woodson is a good coach. George Karl is a very good coach. He played for a college legend. All of these guys kept telling him to play iso?

    • azarkhan - May 24, 2013 at 3:53 PM

      Money talks. Management can’t cut Carmelo; his $18,000,000 dollars a year salary is guaranteed, so he can basically do what he wants. And it’s not just Carmelo. Look at Deron Williams. He basically fired Coach Jerry Sloan at Utah and Coach Avery Johnson at Brooklyn.

  3. casualcommenter - May 24, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    I grew increasingly frustrated watching the Knicks in the last round because of how stupid, frankly, they were playing. Sure, the Heat having Chris Bosh (who can hit 20-foot jumpers) instead of Tyson Chandler (only a threat to score in the restricted area on lobs/dunks) makes the Heat’s life easier on dirves, but honestly, the Pacers’ gameplan against Carmelo wasn’t very complicated.

    1. Almost always have both Roy Hibbert and Paul George on the court when Carmelo is on the court.
    2. Have George “Funnel” Carmelo to Hibbert on drives so Hibbert can play help defense.

    That’s it. That was the ground-breaking gameplan to stop Carmelo Anthony, and it worked for most of that series.

    How are the Heat “defeating” that strategy? Passing the ball when Hibbert helps on drives.
    Whenever LeBron drove to the basket, Paul George “funneled” him to Hibbert, just like they did with Carmelo Anthony. The difference? LeBron willingly passed the ball to a cutting Chris Andersen, who knew that whenever Hibbert moved over to provide help against LeBron, that gave Andersen a second or two before the Pacers’ defense rotated over to him in which he was free to cut to the basket for an uncontested dunk. Not coincidentally, Chris Andersen went 7 for 7 (with 6 of those 7 baskets being “assisted”).

    It’s nothing groundbreaking by the Heat or LeBron. The difference is LeBron James is capable of finishing a game with 10 assists, while Carmelo Anthony’s average statline in the series against the Pacers was 25 shot attempts and 1.3 assists per game. It’s much harder to defend an offense led by a guy who gets 10 assists (generating 20+ points per game by passing) than to defend an offense led by a guy who gets 1.3 assists (generating 2-3 points per game by passing). It’s not that the Heat are so intelligent as the Knicks were frankly stupid in that last series.

  4. daddyghi - May 24, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    “They had a more intelligent attack at the basket than New York did.”

    They just had a better coach than the knicks have..

    • casualcommenter - May 24, 2013 at 10:59 AM

      Having a star player who averages more than 3 assists per game in the playoffs helps make any coach look good. Paul George repeatedly funneling Carmelo to Roy Hibbert on drives is very effective when the Pacers don’t have to worry about Carmelo passing out of the double team.

      With LeBron, it’s much harder to get away with that strategy, since a guy like Chris Andersen then gets 7 uncontested dunks/layups once Hibbert provides help defense because LeBron is a willing passer.

    • fanofthegame79 - May 24, 2013 at 1:07 PM

      They also have a better team than the Knicks.

  5. onereasonableman - May 24, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    “What the Pacers can do is twofold.”

    So, what can they do? I didn’t see that in the article.

  6. lastdukestreetking - May 24, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Pacers also have a better overall roster than NYK.

  7. bball1950 - May 24, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    The strategy is basic basketball. If your man leaves you to help on another, cut to the basket. That’s what Anderson is doing, but Woodson couldn’t teach that to the Knicks.

  8. jbeagles23 - May 24, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    Knicks play Iso bball. Never works in the playoffs

  9. miamatt - May 24, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Not only are they attacking Hibbert with a more “intelligent” plan, the Heat are already in his head. I’m sure the Miami locker room got a good chuckle when they saw the Pacers “big” man complaining about Battier on twitter.

  10. marcusfitzhugh - May 24, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    The Knicks loss to the Pacers wasn’t due to the “assist stats”.

    News flash for the Melo haters: On the NY Knicks, Melo plays power forward. Melo averaged 1.6 assists per game in the playoffs. In the 2013 eastern conference playoffs, 17 other players are listed as “power forwards” and only three of them had a higher assist per game rating than Melo.

    Here’s another stat – the Knicks had the lowest assist per game average of any team in the 2012/2013 regular season. For the regular season, the Pacers averaged exactly 1 more assist per game than the Knicks.

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