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Phil Jackson tells Dan Patrick he thought he was offered Laker job; talks Kobe vs. Jordan

May 21, 2013, 3:34 PM EDT

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Phil Jackson was on the Dan Patrick show Tuesday — Jackson’s new book “11 Rings” is on sale as of today — and sat down for a long interview. I mean long — this is nearly 30 minutes, so you should only listen to this at work and not spend your valuable personal time on it.

In that time they cover a lot of topics, including a rehash of the situation with the Lakers at the start of the season — Jackson said he thought he was offered the job, but he also said he thought this roster could get out of the West but very possibly not beat the Heat. And he didn’t want to lose in the finals again.

Jackson also talks about the Kobe Bryant vs. Michael Jordan comments that blew up online — Jackson was surprised it became an issue and added he said a lot of nice things about both players. Of course, we don’t like the nice stuff as much.

 

  1. navyeoddavee9 - May 21, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    Clippers job is open

  2. logisticalvoices - May 21, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    Phil, you are better off not coaching that dumpster fire of a franchise. The Lakers are a team with aging superstars, a diva center whose skills declined last year, and a bunch of leftovers. Add that to their financial issues with the luxury tax, and you have a team that won’t be competing for a few years.

    I know the Lakers lemmings hate hearing this, but this is what you have to look forward to. Phil is better staying in retirement.

    • teambringitstrong - May 21, 2013 at 4:03 PM

      Lemmings? Let me point out the FACT that the ‘dumpster fire of a franchise’ has SIXTEEN banners. They didn’t win them all at once. The franchise will ALWAYS bounce back. Nice to know your parents raised you to not be so jealous of the successful. (Sarcasm) They, like you, failed.

      • adoombray - May 21, 2013 at 4:13 PM

        None of that means anything now that Dr. Buss has passed. Your storied Laker “tradition” is coming to an end, because Jimmy Buss isn’t half the basketball guy his father was. Enjoy the memories of those 16 banners, because a new one ain’t going up anytime soon – and I was born and raised in LA, I was there before Kobe was drafted, I know very well that most “Laker fans” will just jump on the next bandwagon. LA doesn’t show up for losing teams, because its LA, theres a million better things to do than watch a losing sports team.

      • smoothaswilkes - May 21, 2013 at 4:24 PM

        While the Lakers as a franchise have usually bounced back, the 90s didn’t add any more banners to the rafters and, more importantly, the team has never operated under the conditions that the current CBA presents. They can’t just spend money taking back bad contracts in mega trades, massive free agent signings, or giving role players bloated contracts.

        It’s a new world and the current Lakers front office has yet to prove they can operate effectively or successfully in it. And by success I mean championships.

        BTW, if you are going to question somebody out for call Lakers fans “lemmings” you should probably have more cogent reasoning than “SIXTEEN banners” and the caps doesn’t help your cause either.

        One more thing, never talk for Lakers fans again. Or at least this Lakers fan. Thanks.

      • mazblast - May 21, 2013 at 5:17 PM

        Past performance is no predictor of future results. Even in David Stern’s NBA, titles are not assured.

    • spthegr8 - May 21, 2013 at 5:20 PM

      @logical”TROLL”
      For somebody who doesn’t care about the lakers. You SURE do post on Laker threads ALOT!! Just Saying!! I heard pro football talk was missing their Number 1 “TROLL”. Unfortunately for us, we found him!! Ehhhhhh!!

      • logisticalvoices - May 21, 2013 at 6:06 PM

        @spthegr8: Have you looked at my username and the Redskin troll’s username from PFT? They aren’t the same. I am not him, I don’t know him, and frankly I don’t like him.

        Second, posting a sharp, dissenting opinion about the Lakers isn’t trolling. Some of you Lakers fans are so egotistical that you think that anyone who doesn’t like the Lakers is a hater or a troll. It is true, I’m not a Lakers fan. But, I post on plenty of other articles about plenty of other subjects.

        Believe it or not, the world (nor the NBA) revolves around the Lakers.

      • spthegr8 - May 21, 2013 at 7:04 PM

        @logical
        It is when you post on the majority of Laker post when u are apparently not a fan. Personally, I don’t think that everybody that doesn’t like the lakers is a troll. But the guys that RELENTLESSLY post about teams they don’t like are trolls. If your not a fan then why would constantly post about them ?? If it looks like a rat & smells like a rat………..

  3. logisticalvoices - May 21, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    Sixteen banners? SIXTEEN BANNERS? Wow! I had no idea.

    I retract my previous statement and yield the floor to you, sir. Obviously I don’t know what I’m talking about!

    (Sarcasm)

    • Foul Dwimmerlaik - May 22, 2013 at 3:01 AM

      Your point being? Any FRANCHISE with less than 16 banners must prolly be a whole lot worse than a —- how did you put it? A dumpster fire of a franchise.

      Okay. Got it.

  4. paulhargis53 - May 21, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    teamdummy:
    That dumpster fire is 1-12 in the last 3 season ending playoff series’.

    Quit living in the past. They are over the cap in consecutive years. The cba landscape has changed.
    No longer can the Lakers just outspend everyone else.

    Other penalties besides the luxury tax include no sign and trades.

    You fools need to get that through your thick skulls!

    This time around, they are actually going to have to build a team, not just go out and spend $.
    I don’t hate the team, its you idiotic pompous fans that are unbearable.

    Lets hope its a good 10 year painful rebuild……

  5. whiteyj69 - May 21, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    All those banners are flapping away, collecting dust. What have you done recently?

  6. cantonbound13 - May 21, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    Let it go Phil

  7. jonirocit - May 21, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Phil to da kangs

  8. mannyicey - May 21, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    Phil Jackson coaches superstars. Only he can actually make the Lakers work, as it’s currently built.

    But Phil Jackson can’t coach developing teams. That’s not his job. Go get Hubie Brown out of the booth and the Hornets will go to the playoffs. And he will retire.

    • mazblast - May 21, 2013 at 5:21 PM

      Hubie Brown. Now there’s ancient history. Non-stop talker, severely overrated as a coach because of his semi-success in a major media market.

      Who’s the next great idea in recycling, Mike Fratello?

      • mannyicey - May 21, 2013 at 5:51 PM

        No one even rated him at all. What he did was take developing teams to the playoffs. And I used him as someone with a skillset that is in contrast to Phil Jackson’s. So please, keep up!

    • davidly - May 22, 2013 at 4:22 AM

      You’re right and your point is valid, that he’s always had at least one superstar. But he has done both simultaneously. That is, coached developing superstars who had yet to run that offense. Also, he has consistently instilled the kind of tough, defensive-minded attitude that great coaches like Larry Brown have brought to teams.

      The thing is, whether he cannot coach developing lesser known names or just never wanted to is irrelevant. At this point he is just too old to be taking on such a project.

      Too bad he never got a promotion other than raises in salary. Though, I suppose there are worse fates in life.

  9. nomorsacbball - May 21, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    it is pretty funny how it was made a big deal that Phil said Jordan was better. I think Kobe is the only one that doesn’t know his airness was in a league of his own. although Kobe fan boys will never admit it.

  10. mazblast - May 21, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    The endless historical revisionism and self-promotion of Phil Jackson continues.

    Let it go, Philip. Retire and enjoy the accolades. All you’ve done lately is make yourself look like an insecure has-been, not the ultra-calm Zen Master persona you cultivated for years.

    • davidly - May 22, 2013 at 4:36 AM

      B.S. There have always been hints of the contrast in persona that you mention when addressing the public at large, ie. his ego was always there for anyone who wanted to see it. Not just lately.

      It’s just that now it comes off as more-so because of the end-of-coaching-career reminiscence of it all. And, frankly, if you listen & watch the whole video above (and have really paid attention to what it is you claim to be evaluating), you would notice that this particular interview displays the least varnished version of the coach yet. He actually comes off as less egotistical and more articulate than ever before (I mention the latter point because–in spite of his professed reading-voraciousness and having authored so many books–I never see anyone allude to how indistinctly clumsy his verbiage is).

      But double B.S. on the historical revisionism. There is none here, period.

  11. azarkhan - May 21, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    Phil only takes the tough jobs. Why, he’d be happy to coach the Miami Heat.

  12. chi01town - May 21, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    What idiot is trying to compair Kobe
    to Jordan? please Kobe and NOBODY ELSE shouldnt even be mentioned in the same room with JORDAN! MJ is the best because he beat the games best. Bird, Magic, Barkley’ Patrick, Wilkins, Shack, Robinson, Thomas, you name them and Jordan BEAT THEM. those kind of players dont exist anymore. buy the way he beat Kobe TOO.

    • Kurt Helin - May 26, 2013 at 10:14 PM

      You realize peak Bird actually beat Jordan, as did peak Isiah Thomas, right?

  13. mogogo1 - May 21, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    Pretty consistent with the story that came out at the time. He supposedly asked for a couple days to think about it, but they went and hired D’Antonio after just a day or so without checking back with him. Who knows how accurate that is, but it’s what was reported at the time.

    But as much as I like Phil, it’s clear that nobody likes Phil as much as Phil likes Phil. I’ve got to believe his ego is why he isn’t already running a team.

  14. glink123 - May 21, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    How many rings did Michael, Scottie, Kobe, and Shaq all win WITHOUT Phil as their coach? If you answered 1 (Shaq, in Miami), give yourself a pat on the back. Pippen, Jordan, and Kobe, as great as they were in their prime years, never won a damn thing without Phil on the bench.

  15. badintent - May 22, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    Phil can chose and pick what short list of teams he has because he has a winning record light years ahead of the also-rans.. So you can understand it, think of a Wall Street investment banker that makes $5-10 million a year. Then compare him to your mortgage broker.Light years or Star Trek years or ………………………………………….
    Phil =Terminator ………”I’ll be Back”

  16. pukpokito - May 22, 2013 at 2:18 AM

    phil is done coaching. Love the fair assessment of Lebron and kobe’s limitations when he returns.

  17. omniusprime - May 22, 2013 at 8:58 AM

    Phil should have been given the coaching job instead of that total moron Dumbtoni. The most arrogantly ignorant decision in sports history has to be Jerky Boy Jimmy turning down the greatest coach in sports history for some garbage coach who never won a title. How stupid could Kupcake and Jerky Boy Jimmy have been to throw away a chance to have Phil Jackson come back one more time to win a championship, Phil would still have the Lakers playing for the title.

    The only smart decision that Kupcake and Jerky Boy Jimmy can make is to fire Dumbtoni immediately and bring in a coach more suitable to the Laker’s roster and historical playing style. The Triangle would have been a far better offense than the idiocy that Dumbtoni brought to the Lakers this year.

    FIRE DUMBTONI !!!

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