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Derrick Rose not playing Game 3. Shocking. Deng, Hinrich also out.

May 10, 2013, 12:22 PM EDT

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I can’t believe it — after missing 96 games Derrick Rose decided not to come back in the middle of a physical, intense playoff series to be guarded by Lebron James. Shocking. Who could have possibly seen such a thing coming?

Despite all logic and all evidence to the contrary, some weak reports started to fuel a whole “Rose is likely coming back for Game 3 at home” momentum that was always just ridiculous. But that never stopped a good rumor before.

Tom Thibodeau killed it on Friday at shootaround — Rose is not playing in Game 3. Neither are Luol Deng or Kirk Hinrich.

Deng didn’t sound like he would be back saying he dropped 15 pounds due to complications from a spinal tap. Hinrich had a second MRI showing muscle damage in his leg but the injury is not healing.

In the case of Rose, this is not a shock but it’s not going to play well with some in Chicago — they look at Iman Shumpert being back, with Rose being past the original timeline laid out for his injury, that he has been cleared by doctors and say he should be back.

As I have said all along, Rose is right to make the decision he is most comfortable with, his PR mistake is just leaving the door open. And that is his mistake — Rose wants it that way. Not the Bulls. Not Tom Thibodeau. Not anyone but Rose. As long as he says he might come back the team has to play along, and Rose isn’t willing to put the dream of this season away publicly. For whatever reason.

But this is no time to come back.

First, if he’s not comfortable he shouldn’t. Being cleared by doctors doesn’t make you healthy — just ask Grant Hill or Bill Walton about that. If he is experiencing any pain, or if he is just not comfortable yet playing his game — which is based on explosive moves and fast stops — then he should sit out. Not you, not me, not radio talk show hosts, not anybody but Rose knows what his knee feels like and when he’ll be ready.

More importantly, this would just be a bad time to come back. He’d play 15 minutes off the bench, be shaking off rust, and the Heat wouldn’t take him lightly he’d get LeBron and Norris Cole (a good man defender) locked up on him with quick doubles coming. It’s one thing to go from practice 5-on-5 games to a regular season game — even that is a jump that takes adjustments — but to go to a playoff intensity game against one of the most athletic and aggressive defenses in the game is another. Rose would struggle and hurt the team at this point.

I’d tell him to just say he’s shutting it down until next season, but the time to do that passed three weeks or so ago.

  1. asublimeday - May 10, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    If they get past the heat he’ll come back. Doesn’t want them winning a ring without him. Which, if they get past the heat, they’ll basically have done anyway.

    Make another commercial about coming back, because those didn’t come back to bite you…

  2. misterdreamer119 - May 10, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Derik Pansy.

    • sabatimus - May 10, 2013 at 5:46 PM

      Seriously. He’s been medically cleared for TWO MONTHS.

      • zacksdad - May 10, 2013 at 7:19 PM

        But Kurt says it is OK for him to take his time. So do not complain.

  3. supremekingz - May 10, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    I’m more than satisfied with the PG play of Nate Robinson right now

  4. fanofthegame79 - May 10, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    Derrick Rose will not and should not come back until next season. The Bulls’ season will last 3 maybe 4 more games and he won’t help. The Bulls have nice chemistry with Robinson taking Rose’s spot and Rose will do nothing but disrupt that. The Heat will win by 8-9 points tonight. Maybe less in game 4 but the Heat will win that game, too. Game 5 – the close out game in Miami – we’ll see another blow out by the Heat. This series will be a gentleman’s sweep.

  5. adoombray - May 10, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    haha I love it when the media answers questions that only it is asking. Nobody is expecting Rose back this year. Yet you type it like you are tired of the question. like you’re annoyed it keeps getting asked. So stop asking it. stop bringing it up. Oh, right, you can’t do that, because putting Derrick Rose in the article improves Search Engine Optimization. It gets you paid. Stop acting tired of stories that you make tired to get paid. It insults our intelligence. It’s the same thing football guys do with Tebow.

    • nbascreed - May 10, 2013 at 1:50 PM

      SO TRUE! The moment I read the headline I knew it would be classic Kurt equivocation. Acting like he’s on Rose’s side (his decision…blah, blah, blah) but playing the wily reporter who’s just asking what the public wants to know. All he’s trying to do is create his own story and spin it like it’s news. Kurt’s kind of wanker with his writing. I wish he would just leave it alone.

      I’m so happy Grant Hill came out and said what he did yesterday. Any of us old enough to remember how COLD that guy was can appreciate what his legacy would’ve been had he held out another year.

    • explosionsauce - May 10, 2013 at 4:40 PM

      Truth sauce

  6. tampajoey - May 10, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    Doctors cleared Rose over 2 months ago so he must be out with a sore vagina.

    Derrick Rose is no Team Leader. He should take his sore vagina to Miami to play with the other quitter.

  7. chitownmatt - May 10, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    Oh what might have been….

    Poor Chicago fans have gotten screwed by injuries this season to the point of ridiculousness. I can’t quite say the Bulls themselves have gotten screwed, because the injuries have allowed players like Jimmy Buckets and Krypto-Nate to really shine.

    But come’on, enough is enough.

    Get well Lou. Hope your leg feels better Kirk. D, this season’s over – we’ll see you in the fall, hopefully back in your 09′ form.

    Miami, enjoy it. Next year, you will lose. Just like the Lakers title when KG was injured or the Rockets in 94′ and 95′, there will always be an asterisk next to your title in the hearts of real basketball fans that says, ‘Oh yeah, those were the years D Rose was out’

    • iowahbr - May 10, 2013 at 2:18 PM

      to chitownmatt

      What brand of bourbon did you have this am? I want some as I’m a Bulls fan and I don’t see how the team is different than the the team that lost 2 years ago in the ECFs. Butler is a big plus but offset by the lost of Omer. Same frontline (no more Boozer negatives as I got that in earlier) and while Hinrich is also a nice add doesn’t solve the no 2nd do-it-yourself scoring threat needed to help Rose. Rose himself is a health question mark since he always played at 110% of his body’s abilities prior to his injury and that issue is TBD.

    • eventhorizon04 - May 10, 2013 at 2:23 PM

      You can tell this is a kid, since he’s putting Derrick Rose in the same class as Kevin Garnett (one of the greatest power forwards of all time) and Michael Jordan (the greatest shooting guard of all time).

      Go ask your dad if he would put Derrick Rose in that Michael Jordan-Kevin Garnett class of all-time greats.

      • Kurt Helin - May 10, 2013 at 6:11 PM

        Rose is 24. Maybe we should wait a while before deciding what his legacy will or will not be. My lord you people are impatient.

    • heat256 - May 10, 2013 at 2:25 PM

      Was there one the year they beat the Bulls WITH Rose? You’re a tool.

      • eventhorizon04 - May 10, 2013 at 2:30 PM

        The Bulls would have beaten the Heat in the 2011 playoffs if Rose was at 110% instead of 100%.

      • chitownmatt - May 10, 2013 at 3:48 PM

        Just because the Bulls DIDN’T beat them in 2011, when Noah, Gibson, and Rose were in their 2, 3rd, and 4th years respectively, does not mean the Bulls CAN’T beat them.

        According to your ridiculous logic Dallas is still a better team than Miami.

        Hate to tell you but Wade and Bosh are not the players they were two years ago and they aren’t getting any younger.

      • heat256 - May 10, 2013 at 4:06 PM

        I still don’t see your point. Only fanboy grumbling. Heat won a title in Wade’s 3rd year, so whatever logic you had about their experience is moot. Rose will be coming off a major surgery that may/may not allow him to regain his former explosiveness. Deng is getting worn down. Gibson may very well end up being overpaid and may not be a starter anyways. Dallas wasn’t a better team, they just played better, and that was the difference. Right now the Bulls just aren’t better than Miami. Hell, they shouldn’t have beaten the Nets, but really thank the ineptitude of the Nets more than anything.

      • chitownmatt - May 10, 2013 at 4:14 PM

        “…Dallas wasn’t a better team, they just played better,…”

        Another ridiculously moronic statement typical of Heat fans.

      • heat256 - May 10, 2013 at 4:28 PM

        Really chump? So you believe the 2005 Pistons were more talented than the Laker team they beat in the Finals? NO ONE, even Detroit fans, will agree to that. they will say Detroit played like the better team and won. If you had an ounce of basketball knowledge or understanding of what being a more talented team versus playing like a better team mean, then I can’t help you. Go back to your sandbox little man.

      • chitownmatt - May 10, 2013 at 4:57 PM

        Any coach will tell you that winning in basketball is about exploiting matchups, not about how much “talent” you can put on the floor.

        Maybe the NBA should have two trophies every year, one for the team that wins the championship and one for the team that can sign the most superstars.

        That seems to be what people like you are most interested in.

    • eventhorizon04 - May 10, 2013 at 2:27 PM

      P.S. Another difference is that Kevin Garnett wasn’t physically able to play in 2009.

      Compare that to Derrick Rose, who has been medically cleared to play for months, has legions of fans and former players urging him to play, and has performed well in full-contact practices without restrictions for 3 months, but ultimately chooses not to play because he lacks confidence in his knee.

      Ask your dad how many times Michael Jordan refused to play when he was medically cleared.

    • edwardemanuelson - May 10, 2013 at 2:35 PM

      You must’ve spiked that bourbon with some sour grapes.

      What was the outcome of the 2011 ECF? Healthy Rose… Bulls in how many games?

    • zacksdad - May 10, 2013 at 7:29 PM

      Another asterisk in 2008 for Boston when Andrew Bynum was out.

  8. iowahbr - May 10, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    Did Thibs also mention that Boozer would be in uniform but probably disappear with about 6 minutes to go in the 1st quarter. Let’s talk about the players the Bulls can actually put in the game tongiht and stop all the Rose chatter.

    • heat256 - May 10, 2013 at 2:51 PM

      Why they haven’t amnestied him is amazing.

      • gmsingh - May 10, 2013 at 3:54 PM

        Was he fourth or fifth in the NBA in double/doubles? He had a good series against the Nets–the Heat defends him better. I hate the Heat, but sometimes they deserve a little credit.

      • heat256 - May 10, 2013 at 4:08 PM

        When a big money guy develops a rep for disappearing in the playoffs, his stats don’t matter. Boozer really hasn’t done much to change that perception of him.

  9. canehouse - May 10, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    chitownmatt… what was your excuse when the Heat erased the bulls in 5 in ECF’s back 2011???? The Heat beat the bulls with guys like Eric Dampier, Mike Bibby. Although the Heat ultimately fell short of winning it all… they made it further than your bulls did. What’s the excuse for that one… remind you in 5 games!!!

    • gmsingh - May 10, 2013 at 3:56 PM

      canehouse–what’s your excuse for the Heat not winning 66 games the minute LeBron joined the team? You think maybe the coaches get better along the way too?

      • canehouse - May 10, 2013 at 4:14 PM

        i don’t quite follow your thinking here… there are no excuses. you win or you lose. I made no excuses for the Heat in game one of the series… the Bulls outplayed them and executed down the stretch.

      • gmsingh - May 10, 2013 at 4:16 PM

        I can see you’re not following–oh and LeBron is a better player now too.

  10. gmsingh - May 10, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    That D. Rose is a jerk–he really stole Rip Hamilton’s thunder.

  11. gmsingh - May 10, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    Question for Kurt: why have you “said all along” that Rose can make whatever decision he wants. If a guy is under contract and he’s medically cleared to play he should be required to play. Unless he has a note from his psychiatrist.

    • Kurt Helin - May 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM

      No he shouldn’t be required — Team doctors work for the team and do not always have the player’s interest in mind. Go read the Grant Hill article on this site. Or read the history of Bill Walton. Or a host of other pro athletes from all sports.

      Also, why are you pushing him if the Bulls, the teams writing the checks, are not? Why does this bother you so? Why can’t you see a bigger picture?

  12. glink123 - May 10, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    Looks like the gave Joey Crawford Game 3. good grief. nothing like ruining what should’ve been a decent series.

  13. patfic15 - May 10, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Miami gets the benefit of playing a depleted Bulls tean , then the tired winner of the Ind/NY series. West will run themselves tired. Go heat*

    • dabulls69 - May 10, 2013 at 5:45 PM

      Yes the Heat will win the finals. It really shouldn’t count. Bulls r the only team in the East that can compete with the Heat. Their 1st and 3rd best players, Deng, and of course Rose are hurt. OKC the only West team that can play with the Heat. (I don’t count San Antonio) Russell Westbrook injured. Last year it wasn’t even a full season. So why are u so proud of your team, when it is a clear walkthrough for them? They won’t win next year.

      • patfic15 - May 11, 2013 at 9:25 AM

        My team? There’s an asterisk there for a reason. I’m an OKC man.

  14. cincyorangenblack - May 10, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    There is no way that David Stern will allow the Bulls to stay competitive in this series. Look for another Ref fueled Heat run to close out the first and second quarters, then to start the 3rd. Lebron is the new NBA darling (and rightfully so, he’s the best player on the planet). But to insult fans inteligence by suggesting or pretending the refs aren’t/don’t play a major part in controlling playoff games is downright shameful.

    But hey, someone has to take the reigns of the Chinese market since Kobe no longer has what it takes to win championships, and the Chinese only idolize ‘current’ champion superstars. (Side Note- D Wade’s shoe contract/supplier back’s up this theory one thousand fold. Atleast he isn’t letting pride get in the way of feeding off Lebron’s greatness)

    GO BULLS!

  15. 2difshoe - May 10, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    Adrian Peterson makes Derirck Rose look like the 98 lbs.weakling on the beach,
    Peterson took ten times the beating Rose every will,

    Rose a leader, not so much, sure wouldn’t want to be in a trench when the bullets start flying….plus, he’s leaving his team mates hanging out to dry.

  16. tmdill18 - May 10, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Rose is a gutless selfish prima donna.

  17. shuttaman1990 - May 10, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    After reading that article on Grant Hill I take back everything that I said about Rose.
    Dude should really come back until he’s 100% I mean u cant really trust a team doctor.

    I mean Kobe playing through this pain was alright, but he’s near the end of his career and he wants that ring while Rose is like 24? If he would have taken a crazy hail mairy like Kobe and got hurt again it would have been very bad for him and his family and the people who depend on him.

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