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In surprise to no one, new report says Derrick Rose likely out for season

Apr 12, 2013, 11:06 AM EDT

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At this point, was there anyone left who expected Derrick Rose to return to the Bulls this season?

Those dreams of him returning and leading a magical playoff run needed a foundation to be laid — he would have needed to return for roughly the last 10 games of the regular season. He needs to shake the rust off, teammates have to get used to playing with him again, rotations need to be adjusted and adjusted to. You don’t just plug him in and all is well.

Of course, officially the Bulls are leaving the door open because they have to in case Rose has a change of heart. But nobody expects it.

And now comes this report from K.C. Johnson of the Chicago Tribune.

Now that Rose sitting out all season is all but a certainty, the Bulls and Rose have drawn some criticism. Asked in light of that whether the Bulls should have just declared Rose out for the season last fall, coach Tom Thibodeau shrugged.

“They were just being forthright,” Thibodeau said of management and team physician Brian Cole. “That’s what everyone thought. We didn’t know, and we still don’t know. We were just being honest.”

Rose was medically cleared to play back on Feb. 18 but he hasn’t felt comfortable enough yet to return.

And that’s his call. Not the fans’. Not the media’s. Rose and Rose alone gets to make that call and he can make it on his schedule. If you’re saying “his hurdles are mental” I will say “so what?” They are his hurdles, he clearly doesn’t think he can go out and play like his old self yet. He doesn’t fully trust that knee (and he may or may not have physical pain still, we don’t know). It’s his call to return.

From the day of the surgery last May there was a possibility he could miss the entire season. We knew that. Would it have been better for fans for him to just say a few weeks ago “I’m not coming back this season?” Sure. Probably better for the team, too, so they can stop answering these questions. But in the end it’s still his call.

Rose is 24 and a league MVP, one of the handful of genuine franchise anchors in the NBA you can build a contender around. You give him latitude if you’re Chicago. Because when he comes back next fall, you’re title contenders again.

Carmelo Anthony had Rose’s back speaking to the media before the Bulls went out and ended the Knicks 13-game win streak. ‘Melo said reporters need to stop rushing Rose back.

“What’s two more months going to do?” Anthony said. “I don’t think he should come back, and that’s just my opinion.”

  1. illegalblues - Apr 12, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    here’s the thing. rose suffered a torn ACL. he may never get back to feeling exactly like he did pre-injury. at some point in time, he has to get over the mental hurdle here.

    • loungefly74 - Apr 12, 2013 at 11:28 AM

      Agree…it feel like the Bull’s “window” shrunk a little more…which is sad, this team is/was built to contend against the Heat.

      • pantsfreezone - Apr 12, 2013 at 4:48 PM

        This team was built to win in the regular season and tease a deep playoff run, but they are never and were never going to beat the Heat 4 times in 7 games.

    • lmoneyfresh - Apr 12, 2013 at 11:36 AM

      You’re right, but when he does that is up to him and the team, not the fans.

      • illegalblues - Apr 12, 2013 at 11:37 AM

        that’s pretty obvious

      • lmoneyfresh - Apr 12, 2013 at 11:38 AM

        To me and you, yes. But there’s a lot of people out there who think they know what’s best for him, with little to no knowledge of what’s actually going on with him and his body.

      • llfreedman - Apr 12, 2013 at 2:35 PM

        @imoneyfresh- so true. A strange “demand Rose returns” spectrum has emerged among Bulls fans. People are all over the place with their opinions.

        Perhaps this was just a PR blunder and the Bulls and Rose should have just kept quiet about the healing process and when he was first “cleared” to play.

    • fanofevilempire - Apr 12, 2013 at 3:05 PM

      Adidas will tell Rose when to play, sneaker sales is the important thing, lets
      remember this.

  2. lmoneyfresh - Apr 12, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    Wait, I don’t see anything that says he’s definitely done for the season here. It’s just another report from a beat writer (a good one mind you) saying that he’s “likely” done and won’t come back. I don’t think that’s a big secret really. Fans can hope, but if he’s sat out this long there’s a good chance he’ll stay out until next year.

    • joebone - Apr 12, 2013 at 2:08 PM

      Exactly right. Nothing new here; a quote and a shrug from Thibs certainly can’t be called a “new report.” Botton line: this team is being prepped to be a dynasty a few years from now, not beat the Heat today with or without Rose– get another shooter or two, bring along the young talent like Jimmy Butler, and then they might have something. Right now guys like Nate Robinson are making it fun to watch, but they won’t be there when the rings get passed out.

      • jrwskw - Apr 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM

        Dynasty? What are you on?

  3. mungman69 - Apr 12, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    With Rose the Bulls MIGHT have a shot against the Heat.

    • fanofthegame79 - Apr 12, 2013 at 3:26 PM

      Let’s put the “Bulls could beat the Heat if Rose was healthy” argument to bed. The Heat beat a healthy Bulls team 2 years ago when Rose was the league MVP. So I don’t know how an injured Rose would make the difference. Another thought: what if he never gets back to his old self, mentally. So I do kind of hold this on Rose. When athletes coming back in record time from surgery (Peterson in football, and more recently Metta World Peace) people look at Rose and think “what’s his hold up?” I’ll be the first to say that doctors don’t know everything. However, they must have seen enough on Feb. 18th to medically clear Rose for play.

      • edwardemanuelson - Apr 12, 2013 at 3:36 PM

        This.

        (First off, Spurs fan here, so I really do not have a horse in this race.)

        I’ve been saying this for 2 years now. The Bulls couldn’t beat the 2011 Heat while they were healthy, and while that team was still getting to “know eachother.” Infact, that series ended 4 games to 1.

        Anyone thinks they’re beating the 2013 Heat 4 out of 7 games, minus Rose? Keep dreaming.

      • fanofthegame79 - Apr 12, 2013 at 3:43 PM

        You got it, buddy.

  4. asublimeday - Apr 12, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Yeah, I bet Carmelo thinks he should sit

  5. sdelmonte - Apr 12, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    Makes a lot of sense for the long run. Rose knows his body.

    But it’s hard not to imagine that a well rested Rose wouldn’t be what the Bulls need to challenge everyone, given their ability to elevate their game when it’s the right moment. Then again, imagine what a healthy club will do next year.

  6. steelers4385 - Apr 12, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    DOCTORS CLEARED HIM TO PLAY. No..a doctor knows your body better than you. If a guy that went to school for 10 plus years to study legs and knees, and this guy eats sleeps and breaths knees, im gunna go ahead and trust this guy. Rose is being a little girl. I have literally lost all respect for him. I bet kobe would play an entire season on torn acl. Atleast try.

    • Distinguished Male - Apr 12, 2013 at 12:22 PM

      Then Kobe dumb as hell

    • chicitybulls - Apr 12, 2013 at 12:46 PM

      If you lost respect for a guy that wont come back before he’s ready coming off of his first major injury then you didn’t have any for him in the first place.

    • pudgalvin - Apr 12, 2013 at 1:18 PM

      There’s a difference between having a risk of re-injuring, which is what being cleared means, and your knee still not being healthy. Any doctor will tell you that just because you’re not in danger of hurting yourself again doesn’t mean you’re healthy. So I’m “gunna” go ahead and trust the guy that actually tore his acl. I’m sure Derrick misses your respect though.

  7. modellforprez - Apr 12, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    either way they might beat the knickerbocks but they wouldnt beat the heat would they?? Nahbs.

  8. patfic15 - Apr 12, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    Its a bit much here. Its been a year.

  9. mcnannal - Apr 12, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Reblogged this on The Return of Derrick Rose.

    • nullstadt - Apr 12, 2013 at 2:01 PM

      No one cares.

      • Distinguished Male - Apr 12, 2013 at 2:47 PM

        What? I certainly do! I mean, I was just thinking to myself

        “I want to read this article again, but not on this website…hmmm…”

  10. kvanhorn87 - Apr 12, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    This is worse than Byn….oh hell nevermind.

  11. terrygca - Apr 12, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    I don’t agree that it is his call only. He is still cashing the checks the Bulls are writing and at some point they need to be able to have him back on the court. It’s not like they don’t have a stake in his well being. If he gets hurt again, the Bulls lose too.

    • Kurt Helin - Apr 12, 2013 at 3:05 PM

      And the Bulls are saying he can take as much time as he wants. So what’s your issue?

  12. chitownmatt - Apr 12, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    In light of the way D Rose elevated his game between the 09′-10 and then the 10′-11′ seasons, you can respect him for not wanting to play again until he is back at that 2010-11 form. (remember how much we all laughed at him after the SI interview at the beginning of that season when he said, I can be the MVP.)
    He played all year last year with nagging injuries and he clearly was not quite the same guy he was in 10-11′.
    He has the USA team this summer and then time to make a clean start at another MVP and Championship run next year.
    Get well soon, D.

  13. stayhigh_247 - Apr 12, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    why would he come back to a team with no Taj Gibson, Noah with a nagging foot injury, Rip Hamiliton who has played all of 10 seconds due to injury, the ancient pharaoh Nazr Mohammed, and can’t stay healthy Kirk hinrich. They just dont have enough to compete, especially with a Rose who hasn’t played 1 game all season. It’s best to regroup over the summer. Had the Bulls kept Omer Asik and Kyle Corver, I bet Rose would have come back this year. I love the Bulls but I dont know if they can put up enough points to get out of the 1st round, their defense is going to have to be tact sharp!

  14. waynegretsky77 - Apr 12, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Of course he is out.He is fat and paid.He inflamed his stats playing for a weak east just to win an mvp.he begs team to give him a superstar deal even though he got a superstar deal on shoes.This guy only cared about getting paid.aWhat a selfish idiot.no surprise he hurts his knee after getting max not before.He knew gettin max frok team would prevent them from havin money from signing levron howard.
    But no. I am rich and fat.Rose is like stat only played well to get paid.

  15. eventhorizon04 - Apr 12, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    At this point, not really sure what anybody could expect. As mentioned, ideally players coming back from major injuries have weeks of playing time leading up to the playoffs.

    That allows a player to be slowly worked back into the rotation, deal with any setbacks that happen along the way, and regain his rhythm and conditioning. It is also important for the teams, since the player’s teammates need to get used to playing with him again (especially if he’s a point-guard who runs the offense) and coaches have to fiddle with their rotations to find the most effective combination.

    Derrick Rose, unless he plays tonight, would have just 3 games before the playoffs to try to do what Rubio, Shumpert, and Wall needed weeks to do. I’m not really sure a first round series against either Brooklyn or the Pacers would be a great time for Rose to try to work his way back from injuries.

  16. waynegretsky77 - Apr 12, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    Also he opens his mouth too many times comparing himself to Adrian Peterson.On what world is he like Peterson.Peterson played like six months after but rose is scared after a year. SO IDK why he compares himself to Peterson.

  17. iowahbr - Apr 12, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Rose is a great player and so is Kobe but neither of them has the singlehanded skills to take their current team to wins against the Thunder or the Heat or the Mavs. With the intense pick and roll in the NBA you need a serious paint blocker as even the best teams will have a guard or small forward make plays in the middle. If you don’t have a great paint defender you had better have2 or even 3 players who can get their own points when the 4th quarter play-off defense sets in. The Bulls didn’t have that in 2011 or 2012 and have not done any building in that direction 2012/13. Still fun to watch but not a serous contender no matter how well Rose comes back in 2013/14. I just hope Rose can continue to play at his 110% all the time pace when he does return as that is when he is really fun to watch.

    Bulls fanatics will argue but they should take that arguement up with the Vegas bookies if they are so sure.

    • drex1 - Apr 12, 2013 at 2:09 PM

      the heat, the thunder and the ma… Say what now?? the mavs, was that a typo?

    • joebone - Apr 12, 2013 at 2:13 PM

      You had me until “Mavs.”

    • pudgalvin - Apr 12, 2013 at 2:23 PM

      Youre saying taj and noah aren’t two of the best big defenders in the league? I don’t really follow here.

    • bougin89 - Apr 12, 2013 at 2:51 PM

      So you’re saying serious contenders have to play good defense/protect the paint and need a few guys to create points…isn’t this completely obvious?

    • chitownmatt - Apr 12, 2013 at 3:47 PM

      Can you please tell us WHO on the Thunder, Heat, or Mavs (lol) is a better “paint blocker” than Noah or Taj Gibson???

  18. southpaw77 - Apr 12, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    Let this sink in folks. Brandon Roy has played more games than Rose this year and he has no knee cartilage.

    Well Melo says he should sit out, of course he’s gonna say that, one less obstacle for New York to get past.

    Where’s that Rutgers coach, he needs to get Rose motivated or maybe Dr Phil should tell him to get over it pal, once you have surgery on anything you’re never the same physically, unless you’re a freak like Adrian Peterson… What a waste, who’s to say they’ll contend next year, Chicago could get rid of Hamilton or Boozer or another freak injury could happen. When you have a window you try to get thru it, cant count on everyone being healthy next season.

    • fanofevilempire - Apr 12, 2013 at 3:02 PM

      Melo is correct, Rose should retire.

  19. bux1022 - Apr 12, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    Mentally weak! Great player, but man the f%#^ up already. Or stop acting like your gonna play night in and night out. Watch the game from the luxury of your home or the god damn locker room already. Attention whore!

    • fanofthegame79 - Apr 12, 2013 at 3:41 PM

      I agree – I always questioned Rose’s toughness. There was a play a few years ago when he ran into an opposing player’s shoulder, and Rose cried. The kid Kevin Ware didn’t even cry when his friggin’ leg bone was sticking out of his leg!!

  20. steelers4385 - Apr 12, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    Ya keep sticking up for you little princess. How long did adrian peterson take? How long is rg3 gunna take? Ya….which is bball is just fading into floppy actor little girls running around playing tag.

  21. 00maltliquor - Apr 12, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    Derrick Rose is making Ricky Rubio look like Chuck Norris.

  22. 00maltliquor - Apr 12, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    …and of course Carmelo would say that!! Easier path to the top!

  23. chicitybulls - Apr 12, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    Gotta love the internet tough guys. Calling a player weak, soft, or telling them that they need to man up. Very funny to me.

  24. florida727 - Apr 12, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Lifelong Bulls fan. Management are jerk-offs. They publicly say they’ve “cleared him”. Basically hanging him out as the bad guy to fans and the media if he doesn’t come back. On the one hand, yeah, he needs to overcome the mental hurdle at some point and just get back into it. On the other hand, his whole game is based on his ridiculous explosiveness, so taking an extra month or two, who really cares? I’d rather blow off this season and know he’s 100% and going to be around for the next decade than have him question his ability to plant and explode like we’re used to seeing. Rings will follow in due time.

  25. broncobeta - Apr 12, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    There is nothing wrong with Rose taking the season off.

    However, all of the “Return of Derrick Rose” commercials and online videos seem a bit silly now. I think that’s where fans get their frustration from.

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