Comments on: Dahntay Jones again says he feels bad, didn’t try to intentionally hurt Kobe

By: bucrightoff

bucrightoff — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:15:25 +0000

Last time I checked, one call (the whole game really) cost the Kings the NBA title, while this one might prevent the Lakers from a first round humiliation. One killed a teams chances at a ring, the other might be a mercy killing on the most disppointing season in NBA history.

By: manchestermiracle

manchestermiracle — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:39:29 +0000

Kobe kicked his leg, obviously attempting to hurt Jones. Jones slid under a guy shooting a fade-away, but obviously didn’t mean anything by it. Got it. Leg kick: Dangerous play likely to cause injury. Slide into a shooter’s landing spot (a FADE-AWAY shooter): No reason to think the shooter might get hurt when he lands. Good thing you cleared that up, ’cause I sure was confused….

By: manchestermiracle

manchestermiracle — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:12:09 +0000

Right, ’cause Bibby is as important to his team and Bryant is to his. Not. And last time I looked you could play with a broken nose, but not with a bum ankle. Nice try.

By: manchestermiracle

manchestermiracle — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:09:12 +0000

Please tell us where Bryant has injured another player with a leg kick that just about every NBA player has tried at one time or another. Isn’t that move a Wade signature? No, not the Wade kick-to-the-balls play, the other one.

By: manchestermiracle

manchestermiracle — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:06:56 +0000

You mean the way Griffin uses his off arm to hammer the defender on dunks? That doesn’t get called either. Bryant kicking his leg out had nothing to do with Jones sliding into Bryant’s landing spot.

By: kavika6

kavika6 — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:16:15 +0000

I was devastated when Tony Parker went down on a similar play but I don’t even remember whose foot he landed on. Same with Tim Duncan’s last injury. It’s basketball. Things happen. I’ve rolled my ankle several times playing b-ball and I never blamed anyone. Stop the ridiculous excuses Kobe.

By: jerrybussrightfulheir

jerrybussrightfulheir — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:03:06 +0000

If Bruce Bowen says its a foul you know its a foul. No one knows better.

By: dal24la

dal24la — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 05:38:58 +0000

” I think there is a valid case to be made that you should call every foul when a player doesn’t have room to land, but that is not how the league has called things pretty much ever. And you do need to be careful because if you start calling it the best offensive players will try to draw that foul, the same way they did with the rip move.”

You really think offensive players will start intentionally risking their ankles/foot/any other injury by purposefully landing on a defenders foot just to draw a flagrant? Come on man.

There’s no injury risk with the rip move so it’s not the same thing.

By: dal24la

dal24la — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 05:36:41 +0000

BS, if Dahntay Jones really wanted to challenge the shot he would of jumped with Kobe. Instead he stays mostly ground bound, taking a quick hop so that he can be “sure I was there so he would at least see me and feel me”. IDK who DJ thinks Kobe is, but “feeling” him is NOT going to affect his jumpshot.
If Kobe doesn’t kick his leg out, it doesn’t change the fact DJ hops under Kobe as he’s in the air.

Go watch the replay. If Kobe doesn’t kick his leg out and DJ takes the same tactic of wanting Kobe to “feel” him, than Kobe’s other foot likely would have landed on DJ’s foot.

NO way around this being DJ’s fault.

By: fanz928

fanz928 — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 00:14:18 +0000

Pretty intentional to me you don’t get under someone when he up in the air
That should be a fine

By: somekat

somekat — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 23:31:04 +0000

because kobe kicked his leg out. Again, you can’t force a guy to go through your leg, then get mad because he went through your leg

That would be like a guy going up for a dunk, and using the off hand as a shield and expecting a foul if someone hit that arm going for the ball

By: somekat

somekat — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 23:29:13 +0000

I’d have to agree with jeff, and say you are just an idiot, regardless of your fandom
what’s the point of hurting kobe there? the game is over, he gets no gain from it, neither does his team. If anything, it’s the dumbest thing possible, because if he gets called for a foul, the lakers go to the line to tie the game, and he didn’t know if it was going in at that point, so it could of been for the win

The lakers next few opponents will though, if anything that hurts his team. If he was going to hurt him intentionally, he would of done it in the 1st or 2nd qtr, when it would of helped his team

By: somekat

somekat — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 23:25:30 +0000

anyone who has played also knows that kicking a guy while taking a fadeaway is a dirty move. You can’t force a guy to go through your leg to get to the ball, then complain because he went through your leg

By: somekat

somekat — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 23:22:38 +0000

who do you mean by “we”? Certainly not anybody who has officiated a game at any level. You have to give the guy room to land on a jump shot, that’s it. Once you fade away, or move to the hoop, that is gone. You can’t claim space that isn’t yours. If that is a foul, guys could just jump into defenders and get calls constantly. You’d have games with 50+ free throws per side

Besides, the NBA has it’s own rules, everyone knows this. That’s why 2 and a half steps is no longer a walk, palming violations are known as killer crossovers, and it’s somehow become acceptable to use your backside to knock a defender off his position 5-6 times to get closer to the rim to the point where being able to “back a guy down” is one of the most important skills for a big man

By: rumar1989

rumar1989 — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 23:13:39 +0000

cameltoehoe, someone needs to come after your mouth punk, to shut it up.

By: mrphootball

mrphootball — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:00:56 +0000

He is so full of crap? I believe about as much as I believe he doesn’t like money.

By: pop562

pop562 — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:46:31 +0000

Jones is the same player he was back in 2009 with the Nuggets in game 4 of the playoffs…when he maliciously trip Kobe and almost cost more injuries to Kobe. Jones is a dirty player.

By: cjpunk15

cjpunk15 — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:45:21 +0000

Yeah just when Jones didnt intentionally trip him (Kobe) while playing with the Nuggets… Jones knew exactly what he was doing. ‘Timing’ as Jones declares has nothing to do with standing under a shooter.. Shooting a FADEAWAY…

By: hqdeezy

hqdeezy — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:30:22 +0000

You sir are a clown. How is that a dirty play? Kobe kicks his leg and he’s not called dirty? You Lakers fans and your double standards are sickening. Kobe needs to man up and stop making excuses. Plenty of guys sprain, roll or twist their ankles when landing on another players foot, but you don’t hear them crying.

By: dko83

dko83 — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:29:04 +0000

Yeah come on guys. I get how beloved Kobe is to you guys but just stop. Doesn’t seem intentional at all, sucks he got hurt, move on.
Also jkaflagg has a great point. If we can cut down on flopping, we can cut down on leg kicks.

By: bucrightoff

bucrightoff — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:10:53 +0000

The Laker fan whambulance is hilarious. Kobe broke Mike Bibby’s nose and it wasn’t a foul. Settle down.

By: losanginsight

losanginsight — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:07:24 +0000

It’s ok. KB24 will get the much needed rest for a deep playoff run. A healthier D12 will carry the team for a couple games. The refs in the NBA have an agenda and marching orders from stern on how to officiate Kobe and The Lakers this year. No blood No foul.
#countonhaters
#countonwill

By: jkaflagg

jkaflagg — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:05:31 +0000

Amazing how many people simply ignore the Kobe leg kick, which he has used for years to try and draw contact and fouls….you can’t rip Jones and ignore that Kobe is bending the rules as well…..

By: hollywood26

hollywood26 — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:30:18 +0000

Oh it was a foul according to the way we are taught to officiate. If you watch the video no foul is called becuase the official baseline didn’t do his job and follow the shooter through the conclusion of the shot. He instead turned to watch the play develop and as a result missed the call. A defender has the right to challenge the shot but he must give the defender space to return to the ground. If he doesn’t it’s a foul regardless. Kobe kicked his leg out but was fading backwards. If Kobe made contact with Jones HE should have been called for a foul but he didn’t. Instead Jones stepped inside Kobe’s legs and gave him no room.

By the way, I don’t particularly like Kobe at all, but as a ref I just call them as I see them.

By: jimmymarlinsfan

jimmymarlinsfan — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:29:37 +0000

About as dirty as Mr. clean

By: cameltoehoe

cameltoehoe — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:19:05 +0000

Thanks Dahntay Jones. Next time, go for the knees.

By: glink123

glink123 — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:15:56 +0000

you kinda missed the point. putting his foot under Kobe, after the release, is WHY the play was so blatantly dirty. it had no physical effect on the shooter’s physical release of the ball, but it absolutely had a mental effect of him knowing he would need to take his eyes off the rim to see where he was coming down. dude, do you even know the NBA rulebook? there’s a specific rule for this exact scenario, to protect the shooter. the defender MUST allow space for the shooter to come down. so explain how, on a fall-away jumper, with the shooter jumping AWAY from the defender, he still comes down on top of the defender’s foot? only one answer: the defender stepped into, and under, the shooter. easy call. two shots.

By: teambringitstrong

teambringitstrong — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:15:10 +0000

You’re an idiot or blind or just a Laker hater.

By: jeff6381

jeff6381 — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:02:33 +0000

If he wanted too he could have did that 3 quarters earlier so why would he wait till the last seconds of the game if he really wanted to hurt Kobe? Also him putting his foot under him after the shot was taken has nothing to do with the shot going in or not so I kinda believe him when he say it wasn’t intentional.

By: reesesteel23

reesesteel23 — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 19:55:22 +0000

How in the HEYull do you call a foul on that play??