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Report: Celtics exploring Josh Smith trade ideas (which might mean Pierce)

Feb 18, 2013, 11:21 PM EST

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If one big name is going to move at the NBA trade deadline Thursday it is Josh Smith. The question is where — the Buck, Rockets, Spurs, Nets and… really it might be faster to list the teams that have not had contact with the Hawks about Smith.

Now comes the report that the Celtics are interested. Maybe.

That buzz was out there for a while at a lower level and Monday afternoon ESPN’s Marc Stein picked it up.

Early versions of the rumor suggested the Celtics wanted to send Brandon Bass and Jeff Green to the Hawks for Smith, to which I would reply, “Danny Ferry is not Ted Stepien.” No way Ferry (the Hawks GM) would do that deal.

Frankly, if he’s rebuilding the only reason to do it for Pierce is to turn around and flip Pierce for other, younger parts this summer.

I’m with Stein here, I just can’t see Ainge doing it. He talks about everything (and sometimes Boston seems awfully leaky with the rumors) but is he really going to pull the trigger here?

On Friday, I bet Pierce and Kevin Garnett are still in Celtics green.

  1. cosanostra71 - Feb 18, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    If it makes the team better, you should do it. It would pain me to see Kobe in another uniform, but if it made the Lakers better I would be for it. It’s another sport, but the 49ers of the 80s/90s were one of the best teams in the NFL because of this- Joe Montana in a Chiefs uniform, Ronnie Lott in a Jets jersey, Roger Craig in a Vikings uniform, Jerry Rice in a Raiders uniform… you can’t let sentimentalism get in the way of improving your team. I don’t know if this trade would make them better, but if Ainge feels it does, he shouldn’t let sentiment get in the way.

    • saint1997 - Feb 19, 2013 at 2:34 AM

      I sort of agree, however that philosophy is predicated on the notion that sentimentality or the emotional side has no impact on player performance and the more tangible side of the game. However that isn’t always the case and trading away strong team leaders like KG and PP for players that may be better on the court won’t necessarily improve the team as they could end up losing their heart and identity.

    • redblue560 - Feb 19, 2013 at 8:11 AM

      Interesting business model but do you see the Spurs shopping around Duncan, Parker and Ginobli as trade baits? No. They are the face of the franchise for this generation, just like Magic Johnson and Kareem is to the Lakers of the 80/90’s. Kobe Bryant is to the current Laker’s.

      Seems like Danny Ainge did not learn his lesson from Ray Allen’s exit. I understand, it is just business.

  2. paintman34 - Feb 18, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Jeff Green Courtney Lee and Brandon Bass and maybe a couple draft picks for Josh Smith and Devin Harris would be a good deal

  3. jjpt4540 - Feb 18, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Don’t see how trading Pierce for a guy who thinks he a max player and probably wouldn’t resign with the Celtics?

  4. timb12 - Feb 19, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    Is Josh Smith that good? I don’t really like him as a number 2 option or a max deal guy. But who doesn’t get a max contract now.

  5. gugurich - Feb 19, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    I don’t know why Ferry would want Pierce. If he’s willing to trade Smith before losing him for nothing, then getting a 35 year old Pierce who might retire in a year seems kind of pointless.

    A month ago, it would have been absurd to suggest Green could be used to deal for Smith. He wasn’t playing well and his 4/36 million contract looked fairly toxic. Ever since he’s really picked up his play and been a very good two-way player. It still seems doubtful that Green and Bass could land Smith but it’s not so farfetched as it was. With the way Green’s been playing, Ainge might be unwilling to deal Green at all.

  6. scalfor3 - Feb 19, 2013 at 1:43 AM

    From Celticslife.com

    During her regular weekly appearance on WEEI’s Mut and Merloni show, Jackie MacMullan shared details of a conversation with Doc Rivers as a means of casting doubt on the likelihood of a deal that would bring Smith to the Celtics. Before host Mike Mutnansky even finished asking about the rumor, MacMullan scoffed “no way” and elaborated “I remember asking Doc about Josh Smith last year… picture someone rolling their eyes so much that they’re in the back of their head. That’s how Doc felt about Josh Smith.”

  7. money2long - Feb 19, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    a lot of ppl are letting the fact he hasn’t been an all star cloud the fact josh smith is above average. and there ARE NOT many josh smiths you can pick from a tree in THE WORLD. seriously, name 5 people who are as versatile as smith outside of lebron james. josh smith is a rarity in this game, and his prowess comes on the defensive end. good coach, good team structure and smith will produce. what’s the big deal? yall don’t like the fact he takes the occasional 3 ? this smith guy is a TALENT.

    • colincb - Feb 19, 2013 at 3:07 AM

      Not a talent worth $18 million.

    • jcmeyer10 - Feb 19, 2013 at 11:39 AM

      As in any salary cap sports. The financials matter. We can all agree Josh Smith has talent, but does he have enough talent to take around 30% of the cap. That’s the question.

  8. kvanhorn87 - Feb 19, 2013 at 6:40 AM

    Lets go all in. Put josh with jrue and Bynum. Trade them Evan turner and hawes. Go sixers. Worst case they suck and we rebuild.

    • money2long - Feb 19, 2013 at 11:32 AM

      lol that is always the worst case scenario , in any situation in life..sucking.

  9. 13arod - Feb 19, 2013 at 8:28 AM

    Stuiped celtics are hot right now and can beat miami why change your roster and maybe trade a good leader paul pierce who is good in the cluch

    • hehateme2 - Feb 19, 2013 at 11:24 AM

      Thanks for the laugh there 13arod…. Heat OWN the celtics. You may want to check your spelling on stupid though…

      • jcmeyer10 - Feb 19, 2013 at 11:37 AM

        I wouldn’t call it owning but it seems like overall, the Heat are a more talented group. That having been said, a lot of things can happen over seven games.

        The Celtics are closing games out (see the Heat game of all things, and the Denver game). They can hang in there with talented teams, and potentially steal home court advantage. While it’s much more of an uphill battle and we have not seen how this group transitions into the playoffs, they have a punchers chance.

      • raidmagic - Feb 19, 2013 at 11:49 AM

        the Heat own the Celtics? If I recall correctly the Celtics beat the Heat last time they played and without their starting PG. Way to go to the spelling error when you don’t have a logical argument though…

        Head to head

        Boston 59 Heat 38

        Playoffs

        Boston 8 Heat 9

        Hardly owning.

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