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Opponents say Boston Celtics do miss Ray Allen

Jan 23, 2013, 8:05 PM EDT

Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce AP

When Ray Allen left Boston to go to Miami, mixed in amongst the cries of “traitor” and Kevin Garnett losing Allen’s phone number were a lot of Celtics fans saying the future Hall of Famer would not be missed. Which actually made some sense on paper — they brought in Jason Terry and Courtney Lee, they had Jeff Green coming back, the drop off would not be that severe.

But the Celtics are 20-21 and they have not been impressive save for short spurts all season. All of New England is looking for reasons and answers.

A lot of opponents told Jessica Camerato of CSNNE.com that Boston is a lot different without Ray Allen and that the Celtics miss him. Here are a few highlights, but go read the whole thing.

Richard Hamilton (Chicago Bulls)
“They’re different. When you go into the game, you know with him, he’s coming off curls, he’s coming off pin downs. He really spaces the floor for Paul [Pierce] to go ahead and to what he do, for KG [Kevin Garnett] to do what he do. It was a guy that you never ever could not guard.”

Luol Deng (Chicago Bulls)
“It’s going to be difficult. Ray Allen takes so much attention and he gets guys shots. He made a big difference for them. You could always replace everyone. It’s just, how do you do it? It’s not going to be one guy. Don’t think that you’re going to bring one guy in and he’s going to just fill in the shoes. It takes a team effort and a team goes in a different direction, whether it’s Paul Pierce or Kevin or [Rajon] Rondo who are scoring more. I think people fall into, ‘This guy’s gone, so this guy has to be that guy.’ It’s never like that.

Tony Allen (Memphis Grizzlies)
“That’s a Hall of Fame kind of guy. So that right there just lets you know, they’re missing Ray. Period, point blank. They’re missing Ray.”

I still expect Terry to find a better groove and help bring a little of what Ray did to the second unit, something he can do more with Avery Bradley back in the lineup.

But Allen and all the little things he brought are not so easy to replace. And without him the Celtics margin for error is just that much smaller.

  1. nbascreed - Jan 23, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    Agreed. I always thought all the talk about Terry and Lee and Bradley being able to replace what Ray did ridiculous. YOU HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR RAY AT ALL TIMES, in transition, in half court and during out of bounds. ANYONE who has played college or pro know how taxing that is on not only the defender guarding him but the defense as a whole. Doc is too proud to admit it but YES their offense misses a guy like that…and YES in the playoffs when rotations shrink and the game slows down Miami will benefit greatly by having a guy that a defender can’t leave.

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  2. 1972wasalongtimeago - Jan 23, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    No duh

  3. miamatt - Jan 23, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    This really speaks to why this was such a great move for the Heat. In one fell swoop they added a veteran, clutch, go-to scorer who defense simply must stay on, while simultaneously twisting a knife in the heart of Miami’s biggest conference rival.

  4. andyhr17 - Jan 23, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    This just in: The Cleveland Cavaliers really miss LeBron James.

    • eventhorizon04 - Jan 23, 2013 at 10:39 PM

      I have an angry letter written by the team’s owner (Dan Gilbert) in Comic Sans that says otherwise!

  5. eventhorizon04 - Jan 23, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    Ray Allen’s been a good acquisition for the Heat in 2012 –

    Ray Allen
    25 MPG, 46.8% FG, 43.2% 3PT, 89.5% FT, 3.3 RPG, 1.7 APG, 11.2 PPG

    He’s not asked to shoot much since his job is mainly to space the floor and be efficient when given open-looks, and his overall FG% and especially his 3-PT % show how efficient he has been when given opportunities to shoot.

    Jason Terry
    28 MPG, 42.7% FG, 35.8% 3PT, 86.4% FT, 1.9 RPG, 2.2 APG, 10 PPG

    In more minutes than Allen, Terry has scored slightly fewer points per game, but he has been much less efficient overall and at the 3-point line. Terry’s been a decent substitute for Ray Allen, but there’s a definite drop-off in efficiency.

  6. drunkenjunk - Jan 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    Ray is still a liability on the defensive end. Bradley is still banged up, once/if he gets 100% or close to it the Celtics will bounce back. Terry will be better with less minutes and there is still half the season for them to gel. Boston can still get the 5/6 seed and beat 2-4 in the first round.

    • pantsfreezone - Jan 24, 2013 at 1:23 AM

      No they can’t. Have you watched this team at all? They have zero rebounding outside of Sullinger (who was a great draft pick) and he’s a rookie who isn’t completely efficient. Terry is garbage. GARBAGE. He is a liability who is a run killer anytime the Celtics are making a push to widen a lead or catch up.

      I find the fact that Boston fans think Avery Bradley, who just got torched along with Rondo by Kyrie “Second Coming of Chris Paul” Irving and is little more than a decent defender as a small SG who barely scores and hardly rebounds is going to save them, hilarious.

      • drunkenjunk - Jan 26, 2013 at 3:08 PM

        you’re wrong about Bradley, he’s a legit stopper. he’s still recovering from injury.

    • hehateme2 - Jan 24, 2013 at 4:08 PM

      keep dreaming drunken junk. your hopes of the celticks getting better is a pipe dream.

      • drunkenjunk - Jan 26, 2013 at 3:07 PM

        i’m not a celtics fan man. just think they’ll even out. only 1/2 way through the season.

  7. 00maltliquor - Jan 24, 2013 at 1:56 AM

    Told you! I said this in a comment a few days ago.

  8. 1972wasalongtimeago - Jan 24, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    So I’d like to ask the Celtics fan who was so high on Jason Terry before the season:

    Honestly now, how much do you hate it when he goes into that Jet routine?

    • andyhr17 - Jan 24, 2013 at 12:33 PM

      I don’t mind it because it means he actually hit a freakin’ shot….

  9. southbeachtalent - Jan 24, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    So not having the best 3pt shooter of all time hurts? hmm who would have thought..

  10. hconspiracy - Jan 24, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    I doubt that the presence of Ray Allen would make any difference to the current state of the Celtics. Ainge has to change things now and start looking at viable trade options….the Celtics need another big! And Cousins could be that man…..I think he would reach his potential under the tutelage of Doc and Garnett. What bargaining chips do the Celtics have….Rondo! He ain’t the leader and never will be…..I have heard that a possible 3 way trade could be in the pipeline involving the Celtics-Toronto-Kings. This involves either Bradley or Rondo and Melo and Sullinger going to the Kings and Kyle Lowry, Demarcus Cousins, Jimmer Fredette and Chuck Hayes coming to Boston…..So come on Ainge let’s make this happen before its too late.

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