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Gary Payton, Bulls owner Reinsdorf among Hall of Fame nominees

Jan 7, 2013, 12:32 PM EDT

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The Glove belongs in The Hall.

And it could happen. The list of nominees for the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame were released on Monday and Payton is among them for the first time. So was Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf, as well as returning guys like Bernard King who should be in. Of course, it’s never that simple with the Hall of Fame, which is an international hall of which the NBA is only part.

Everybody on the nominee list goes before a nine-person panel and if they get seven yes votes move on to the finalist stage (who makes the cut is announced All-Star Weekend in Houston). A group of 24 writers makes the final votes later, the list of guys getting in comes out in April.

NBA.com has the full list of nominees (and we list them below) but here are a few highlights:

• Gary Payton: Best remembered from his years in Seattle, The Glove is one of the best guards of his generation, a guy who gave you 16.3 points and 6.7 assists a game over the course of his career, but it was the defense on the other end of the floor that made his reputation. He is a nine-time All-Star, was the 1996 NBA Defensive Player of the Year and got a ring as a member of the 2006 Miami Heat. He should be in (but don’t be shocked if it takes more than one year).

• Jerry Reinsdorf: The long-time owner of the Chicago Bulls has six NBA Championships on his resume. He got that while running a very profitable business — the Bulls were never one of the NBA’s biggest spending teams and in an era when other owners lived outside their means then complained about how hard it was to make money, Reinsdorf turned a profit. He has been influential among NBA owners.

• Bernard King: Please, put this man in the Hall. It’s time. He’s been up five times and the fact one of the games great scorers is not in the Hall is a travesty. He averaged 22.5 points per game over the course of his career and that peaked at 32.9 for the Knicks in 1985.

For fun, here is King dropping 60 on the Nets.

• Russ Granik, who spent 22 years as the No. 2 guy at the NBA league offices. You remember him as the guy who announced the second round before Adam Silver did.

• Vlade Divac: He was nominated by the International Committee. Look, if this were an NBA-only Hall of Fame (and there should be one of those, but that’s another rant) Divac wouldn’t make it. Although, Lakers fans would like him to because he was the centerpiece of the draft day trade that brought them Kobe Bryant. Anyway, if you are talking about international players who change the flow of guys to the NBA, Divac should be on the list and maybe a Hall member.

• Oscar Schmidt. While we are listing international guys, this Brazilian legend is a no-brainer for the Hall. He visited Team USA practice this year and you should have seen the Team USA guys bend over backward to shake his hand.

Here is the full list if nominees, via Scott Howard-Cooper at NBA.com.

From North America: John Bach, Dick Bavetta, Gene Bess, Maurice Cheeks, Jack Curran, Bobby Dandridge, Lefty Driesell, Bill Fitch, Cotton Fitzsimmons, Travis Grant, Tim Hardaway, Spencer Haywood, Robert Hughes, Kevin Johnson, Marques Johnson, Gene Keady, Guy Lewis, Danny Miles, William (Speedy) Morris, Dick Motta, Curly Neal, Payton, Rick Pitino, Mitch Richmond, Paul Silas, Eddie Sutton, Jerry Tarkanian, Rudy Tomjanovich, Paul Westphal, Gary Williams.

From the ABA: Zelmo Beatty, Ron Boone, Roger Brown, Mack Calvin, Louie Dampier, Bob (Slick) Leonard, George McGinnis.

Contributors (off the court guys): Al Attles, Marty Blake, Harry Glickman, Del Harris, Red Klotz, Jerry Krause, Johnny Most, Gene Shue, Donnie Walsh.

  1. jimthebuilder27 - Jan 7, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    NO WAY should Jerry Krause get in. He had two good draft picks (Pippen and Horace Grant) and made a good trade (Cartwright) but his lack if drafting ability hurt the Bulls after their 6th title. They also went 93-280 after their 6th title, as Krause insisted on rebuilding and couldn’t attract any free agents! Also hired maybe one of the worst coaches in Tim Floyd.

    • macka4 - Jan 11, 2013 at 8:58 AM

      AND, he basically destroyed the Bulls for many yrs after Jordan, Pippen, Jackson and co. left. And the moron couldn’t wait to get rid of em’! Ego problem?

  2. hwatt - Jan 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    As much as I had to admit, the Bulls HAVE been good at scouting talent. Jordan was the #3 pick, they worked like heck to get Pippen from Seattle, The Bulls bought Tyson Chandler into the league and trained him into an all-star, Ben Gordon could have stayed as a star next to Rose… there have been a lot of good players drafted.

    I don’t know if the drafting credit belongs to Reinsdorf or Krause… but Reinsdorf deserves some dings for drafting solid guys, then letting them walk when they get too expensive for his cheap tastes. If he was in a smaller market he’d have choked a long time ago. Unless tanking the roster is part of his plan to draft potential GOATS sort of like what they’re doing this year… if that is indeed his plan then yeah he deserves it

    • blueintown - Jan 7, 2013 at 2:02 PM

      Reinsdorf doesn’t draft people. People have got to get over this Reinsdorf is cheap crap. It is unequivocally false. A big part of the reason we see astronomical, stupefying contracts being handed out today is because he willingly gave Michael Jordan $30+ million PER YEAR multiple times. He doesn’t pay astronomical sums for mediocre teams because it’s a stupid thing to do from a business perspective and from a basketball perspective.

      • hwatt - Jan 7, 2013 at 2:16 PM

        What did you expect to pay the GOAT? The veteran’s minimum?

        So we let Tyson Chandler walk, watch him be key to someone else getting a ring, and who did we get in return?…oh yeah. Ben Wallace. The guy needs to learn how to pay for near potential, which should have happened in Chandler’s case, or we’re always going to be littered with more Ben Wallace/Kirk Hinrich/Rip Hamilton has-beens.

      • blueintown - Jan 7, 2013 at 2:32 PM

        No, you don’t pay him the minimum. That’s the point. He didn’t. He didn’t lowball him, he gave him the most lucrative annual deals in the history of sports.

        “the guy needs to learn how to pay for near potential, which should have happened in Chandler’s case..” You conveniently overlooked the 6 year $63m deal that Reinsdorf inked Chandler to in 2005 (a deal that didn’t expire until after the Dallas title run). Signing Ben Wallace was a basketball decision made by basketball executives, not Jerry Reinsdorf. He listens to basketball executives and makes financial decisions. That’s it.

      • hwatt - Jan 7, 2013 at 2:39 PM

        ok. point taken

      • rajbais - Jan 7, 2013 at 5:23 PM

        Basketball critics and people like you miss the point. I do not know much about you, but I know enough about basketball critics where I feel that they have shown me more than enough evidence to prove that they are lazy.

        Good or great owners do way more good or great that bad.

        The same goes with general managers.

        Adrian Wojnarowski For example is wrong for suggesting that Jerry Krause is a Hall of Fame general manager. For as many great things as he’s been given credit for He has also done enough horrible things to ruin a franchise.

        Do to the fact that Jerry Krause and John Paxson were responsible for many of the losing seasons that our team endured after Michael Jordan and Phil Jackson left Jerry Reinsdorf was also culpable of letting those two idiots stay. If your general managers are doing something obviously wrong And someone with less supposedly intelligence knows it you have to stop all of the wrongdoing.

        A lot of teams are not cool it is because of keeping bad general managers for too long.

        The Maloof brothers have Geoff Petrie for too long in Sacramento. Now that franchise is going nowhere.

        Those brothers could’ve at least been “Hall of a very good” owners. Now they look like guys who shouldn’t deserve the privilege of running a team.

        The similar can be said about Jerry Reinsdorf because smart businessman do not keep dumb people in town. If you want success keep smart people; not morons who are doing obviously wrong things.

  3. hwatt - Jan 7, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    Dick Bavetta… you can’t tell me with a straight face the guy refs fairly after watching tape of the old Lakers-Kings wcf. My “refs are biased” post ends here, before my blood pressure starts acting up….

  4. baymac408 - Jan 7, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    The glove should get love.. Shout out G.P. 20 bay native certified BALLER for ages

  5. cosanostra71 - Jan 7, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    Gary Payton was one of my favorite players growing up. Can’t think of a more deserving player! And Dick Bavetta? Really?

  6. rajbais - Jan 7, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Reinsdorf: Overrated!!! Benefitted off of Phil Jackson, MJ, and Scottie!!!

    You’re only a HOF owner when you win titles in multiple eras!!!

    The standard: Jerry Buss!!!

    Thank to Reinsdorf my Bulls will never win a title with him staying!!!

    • blueintown - Jan 7, 2013 at 1:57 PM

      So Jerry Buss didn’t benefit from elite talent in multiple eras? Your logic is astounding.

      • rajbais - Jan 7, 2013 at 5:06 PM

        My point is that he didn’t do ENOUGH!!!

        Hall of Fame owners win with multiple administrations!!!

        So in order to get in you have to be an owner like Red Auerbach (yes he had ownership stake in the Celtics), Bill Davidson, and Jerry Buss. They all won under multiple administrations/eras.

        Jerry had one great era and didn’t do enough to be great as often as possible!!! Thanks to being loyal to Jerry Krause (his buddy who benefitted from having Phil Jackson as an eye for talent), Tim Floyd, john Paxson, and other bozos he’s not worthy of HOF status!!!

        Now, with us only putting all the eggs in Derrick Rose’s basket we won’t win titles!!! We need a real scoring 6’10″-7’0″+ guy to help us!!!

        Reinsdorf let Bulls unnecessarily bleed!! Great owners prevent or stop the bleeding when they need to do well!!!

        Jerry Buss and Bill Davidson (RIP) were examples of that!!!

      • macka4 - Jan 11, 2013 at 8:52 AM

        Once again, Buss is trying to buy a title. A la’ NY Yankees. Been his method for 3 decades.

  7. dacapt704 - Jan 7, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    BERNARD KING. (travesty he’s not in already)

    • macka4 - Jan 11, 2013 at 8:54 AM

      No kidding. 2nd best forward to Bird in 80′s. ONLY reason Knicks were competitive in that era.

  8. themagicfanguy - Jan 7, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    Gary, Bernard, Hardaway, Richmond, and Cheeks should all get in at some point.

    • macka4 - Jan 11, 2013 at 8:56 AM

      Cheeks is truly underrated. Much same type of player Stockton was. Great distributor, made offense flow and solid defender.

  9. freemantowilliams - Jan 7, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    Payton should get in just for those stupid fly Nikes he had with the zipper on them.

  10. macka4 - Jan 11, 2013 at 9:02 AM

    Don’t blame Paxson for trying to clean up Krause’ mess. Krause put him behind the 8 ball for yrs. Not easy trying to erase yrs of carelessness.

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