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Barkley says old, slow Lakers have no shot at NBA title

Jan 4, 2013, 2:15 PM EDT

Lakers starters walk onto the court after a timeout during their loss to the Dallas Mavericks in their NBA basketball game in Los Angeles Reuters

A few diehard Lakers fans are still clinging on to the hope they could win an NBA title this season.

Why? Why is the team itself still optimistic? Because they still have so much talent, something Kevin Ding explains at the Orange Country Register. That talent hasn’t been healthy or fit together all that well yet, the defense and bench are in question, but the possibility of what that talent could bring keeps title hopes alive in Lakers nation.

Charles Barkley would like to crush those hopes.

He was on The Dan LeBatard Show on 790 The Ticket in Miami and did not mince words when asked if the Lakers could win a title this year (thanks to Sports Radio Interviews).

“None. Zero. Zero chance. I think Oklahoma City, Memphis and the Spurs are the three best teams in the West. I still have my concerns. Everybody is on the Clippers’ bandwagon. I don’t like their half-court offense. I don’t like their free throw shooting. I love Chris Paul. I said it for years. I thought Jason Kidd was the best leader in the NBA. I passed that mantle, in my personal opinion, to Chris Paul, but I don’t like their half-court offense.”

Earlier in the interview Barkley reiterated what he said on TNT — the Lakers look old and slow.

It’s hard to see the Lakers even getting above a six seed after the hole they have dug themselves. They are not catching OKC or San Antonio, and despite Barkley’s concerns they are not catching the Clippers in the regular season either. (I don’t share Barkley’s concerns about the Clippers, but we will see where they are come March and April.) The West is deep with good teams and while I expect the Lakers make the playoffs they have made their playoff road much more difficult.

Barkley sees what we all do out East — the Miami Heat are the best team and look like a force of nature when they are focused. The Knicks have had some backsliding of late and they still might be the most likely second best in the East (maybe if the Pacers get Danny Granger back and Roy Hibbert out of his slump they can step into that role).

  1. dannymac17 - Jan 4, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    A lot of people said that when Barkley was with the Suns.

    • steamedcrabs - Jan 4, 2013 at 3:40 PM

      Two words: Thunder. Dan.

    • huffdaddyco - Jan 4, 2013 at 4:26 PM

      Exactly, and look at all the titles Sir Charles won.

    • yourfutureanalyst1 - Jan 4, 2013 at 11:45 PM

      They may have said that when Barkley was a Sun, but it was for totally diff Reasons. The Suns went 62-20 as the number 1 seed out of the west, and most believe to this day that the only reason they lost is b/c they played again a Chicago Bulls Team featuring the G.O.A.T. The Lakers have no shot at being the number 1 seed, as they struggle just to get to and above .500. I’m with Charles on this one the Lakers have no shot, but at least Kobe can achieve one thing over Jordan.. More points, lol..

      • macka4 - Jan 11, 2013 at 9:18 AM

        Why do folks even mention Kobe with MJ? Cmon

  2. paulhargis53 - Jan 4, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    Jesus. I CANNOT wait to read the postings that are going to follow this article.
    It should be good for some great laughs during the Oklahoma/A&M game.

    I’m sure Barkley will be deemed a “know nothing”, a “hater” and on and on.

    This should be a stunning collection of posts!

    • zacksdad - Jan 4, 2013 at 2:47 PM

      Your Celtics are about in the same boat as the Lakers, just they may get a higher seed with the weak east. Neither team is playing up to their expectations.

    • skids003 - Jan 4, 2013 at 3:31 PM

      Paul, I see your buddy lakerluver showed up down below.

  3. zacksdad - Jan 4, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    The “old and slow” Lakers with great post players have no chance to win with a coach that has running offense that does not use multiple post players together.

  4. limonadamas - Jan 4, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    Oh well… Even with things looking so grim, it was definitely worth a shot, getting all that talent together. If you’re gonna go down anyway, better to go all-in than have your chips slowly bled dry. Even with how things have gone so far this season, I would still make the D12 and Nash acquisitions if I had to do it over again. At least D12 is playing.

    It’s too bad we’ve traded all our first rounders away for the foreseeable future though. Even late first-rounders can be really useful if they’re used properly. Oh wait, we don’t have a scouting department anymore? Never mind. Thanks, Jim Buss.

    • zacksdad - Jan 4, 2013 at 2:51 PM

      What is wrong with Chaz. Does not being a bartender and being friends with the owners son make you a great scout.

      He probably scouted Phil Jackson and found out he walks with a limp and would not be a good choice as a coach for these older Lakers.

    • aboogy123456 - Jan 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM

      guys, please stop panicking, lakers just need to make the playoffs and they have a good shot. Every week people overreact.

      You should know as a lakers fan that they love the drama, and the main problem with them is focus and effort, NOT ability. We hate to see them dogging it in games, but just watch when they have their backs against the wall, the lakers will come through.

      • spthegr8 - Jan 4, 2013 at 3:58 PM

        @aboogy123456
        THANK YOU!!!!!

      • southbeachtalent - Jan 4, 2013 at 4:25 PM

        while I agree the Lakers will make the playoffs, if they make it as an 8 seed it will be a difficult journey.

        Main problem is Dwight, he’s clearly not ready to go.

  5. jroc0303 - Jan 4, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    I love Charles Barkley, but….

    How many NBA championships has he won?
    OK NCAA Championships?
    Ummm College Conference Championships?
    High-School State Championships?
    Not sure he is the expert on what it takes to be a champion.

    • gostlcards5 - Jan 5, 2013 at 5:08 PM

      While I agree with your sentiment, look at it from the other direction —- Wouldn’t he then be considered an expert on what it takes to NOT be a champion?

    • macka4 - Jan 11, 2013 at 9:20 AM

      It doesn’t matter (if Barkley is a champion). Lakers mgmt is clueless as well.

  6. lakerluver - Jan 4, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    Maybe the LAKERS don’t have any chance of winning the title this season. However, if that statement came from a former player who actually won a title I’d give it more credence. Chuck knows nothing about winning a championship.

    • Distinguished Male - Jan 4, 2013 at 3:44 PM

      You. You and people like you. I blame you.

      Blame you for the repeated hiring of former players as “analysts” because people like you think that they “know more” because they played the game.

      Winning a championship has nothing to do with being an objective analyst. Being a former player has nothing to do with being an objective analyst. Time and time again, I’m forced to listen to mush mouthed idiots breath their way through a painfully obvious “observation” just because they suited up at some point in their life. Not just in the NBA, but in every sport.

      Now, granted, there are some quality former players turned broadcasters/analysts. I happen to like Barkley. But this mindset of yours is why ESPN insists on hiring every single ex player (hello Ray Lewis) to crowd their tables and drown each other out with “insider knowledge”.

      /rant

      • Distinguished Male - Jan 4, 2013 at 3:47 PM

        I “like” quotations.

    • maddog111 - Jan 4, 2013 at 4:19 PM

      But you do?

    • southbeachtalent - Jan 4, 2013 at 4:26 PM

      Wondering if you had the sentiments when he was bashing LeBron??

    • 24thesho - Jan 5, 2013 at 8:49 AM

      Bernard King was a little before Barkley’s time (I believe), but I meant King was a great, great player whom has never won a title either. Barkley ain’t dumb. Just ask his accountant, who probably graduated from Princeton.

      • macka4 - Jan 11, 2013 at 9:16 AM

        King carried an ordinary at best team into the playoffs and beat a superior, deeper Detroit team nearly all by himself. And pushed Boston as well. How many stars could do as much? Not many, I assure you.

    • macka4 - Jan 11, 2013 at 9:22 AM

      Hell, many fans can see LA mgmt is idiotic with the moves they made recently. Howard (overrated), Nash (past his prime) and “World Peace” (see previous comments).

  7. aboogy123456 - Jan 4, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    How is it that the lakers are too old and slow now but before the season barkley and other analysts admitted that they have a chance? This team has not been full strength and all of a sudden they don’t even have an outside chance? That’s poor judgement by Barkley.

    They have only had all their starters together for a handfull of games. Their coach is rather new and they will still be learning his system and improving by the playoffs. Being old hurts teams in the regular season, with the back to back games and travel. But in the playoffs, with the slowed down game pace, less travel, and no back to backs, being old is not the worst thing.

    I still think the way this lakers team is built is championship-caliber, and I’m not jumping off the bandwagon in freaking january.

  8. bucrightoff - Jan 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM

    The reason they have no shot is because they’ll have to beat 4 of these 5 in a row in 7 game series: Miami, OKC, SA, Memphis, LAC. I can see them beating one, and maybe two, but four? No shot is correct Sir Charles.

    • aboogy123456 - Jan 4, 2013 at 3:44 PM

      I don’t get your logic, if they can beat one of those teams then why can’t they beat all of them?

      • bucrightoff - Jan 4, 2013 at 3:52 PM

        In a row? Not gonna happen. The advantage those teams have (especially Miami) is they get to play weaker opponents for at least one round. Also, the Lakers won’t have home court, making it much more difficult for Stern to fix games for them, their only realistic chance of winning the title. Sorry, its all about next year Laker fans.

      • aboogy123456 - Jan 4, 2013 at 4:00 PM

        home court helps, but lakers still have a good chance to win.

        You bring up a good point though about getting to play weaker opponents. Maybe that gives them more rest so it’s an advantage for miami.

        Another argument is that playing better opponents actually elevates your level of play. You get used to grinding it out and I think it’s actually good that the lakers play good teams, it will bring the best out of them.

      • cosanostra71 - Jan 4, 2013 at 4:03 PM

        “making it much more difficult for Stern to fix games for them”

        I’m glad we’re looking at this with our realist glasses.

      • dmcannon99 - Jan 4, 2013 at 7:08 PM

        Yeah, Stern.s in the tank for them – that’s why he negated the Paul trade.

  9. paulhargis53 - Jan 4, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    zacksdad: True enough. But 80% of our fanbase didn’t have our team placed in the finals before a game was played.

    Skids: I know :-)

    I find it funny when people make fun of a person, or disregard their opinion because “they never won a title”.
    That argument makes no sense. He played the game for years, has been an analyst for several more. The guy knows basketball.
    Something tells me even if a guy who won a title said this, there would be some caveat about how his opinion doesn’t matter because he won his titles in the 60s, 70s, or 80s etc.

    • bozosforall - Jan 5, 2013 at 12:41 AM

      More like 90% of the Boston fan base was deluding themselves that their team was going to be in the Finals. And as usual, the river Denial runs through Pudhummer53’s empty noggin.

  10. davidly - Jan 4, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Maybe Stern could arrange an NBA version of the NIT in which the Celtics and Lakers could compete to see if they can meet each other in the finals for one more grand matchup before they get sold off to China.

    • spthegr8 - Jan 4, 2013 at 4:57 PM

      @davidly
      LAME joke!!!!

  11. lfpmedia - Jan 4, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Reblogged this on indiesoulspokenword and commented:
    When Barkley speaks, we listen.

  12. spthegr8 - Jan 4, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    You know what they say about opinions right???? Personally I like Chuck and respect his opinion, but @ the end of the day. That’s all it is!!!

    @bucrightoff
    Stern fix’s the Laker games??? Were do you people get this sh*t from!!! SMH!!!! So that’s why we got 16 championship’s. Thanks for enlightening us!!! LLS!!!

  13. paulhargis53 - Jan 4, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    zack: The big difference between the 2 fanbases is that the lakers fanbase had them in the finals before a game was played. Why wouldn’t non lakers fans revel in the fact that they stink?

    skids: I know, and the dummy is goading me to rip him a new one. You’d think he’d get sick of looking ignorant- guess not.

    The argument that a player hasn’t won a title so he can’t make a statement of fact is completey moronic.
    Hes played and analyzed more basketball than all of us put together. If a certain analyst that has won titles said the same thing, you lakers fans would have some reason to tear him down.
    You’re delusional if you think this is a,title team. You can’t face facts. Good God.

    • bozosforall - Jan 5, 2013 at 12:38 AM

      The Boston fan base was equally delusional about their chances, just like they were last year.

      • saint1997 - Jan 5, 2013 at 5:07 PM

        stop bringing it back to the Celtics man! You both suck, get over it

      • bozosforall - Jan 6, 2013 at 12:42 AM

        Not talking to you, bunghole bandit. Mind your own business, bend over boy.

      • saint1997 - Jan 6, 2013 at 6:22 AM

        hahahah oh thank you for making my day. Seriously thank you. hahahha jesus i laugh so hard when sad little men make gay slurs on the internet to people they don’t know, because they honestly don’t get how stupid they sound. hahaha oh man you sir should be a stand up comedian

      • macka4 - Jan 11, 2013 at 9:24 AM

        But , they (Celts) don’t try and buy a title every yr. And sell fans wolf tickets.

  14. tonyz6060chevy - Jan 4, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    He’s right ,they do look old and slow. they look like that team the Harlem Globetrotters always beat. Us Laker fans only have the genius of Jimmy Buss for enhancing that flaw by hiring the wrong coach for the team! I can only hope that Jerry buss gives Jeannie the Lakers G.M. job as a wedding present and jettisons sonny boy to grooming his race horses!

    • cosanostra71 - Jan 4, 2013 at 6:05 PM

      Jim Buss isn’t the Lakers G.M. though.

  15. shockexchange - Jan 4, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    Barkley has been co-signing the Shock Exchange I see.

  16. BigBeachBall - Jan 4, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    the lord of the ringless won’t shuttup…

    • macka4 - Jan 11, 2013 at 9:26 AM

      And some of these guys with rings are “qualified”? Stacey King, Steve Kerr, Rick Fox, etc?

  17. ezwriter69 - Jan 4, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    News flash Chuck, the oldest team in the league is…. The Spurs, who you say DO have a shot at a title.

    • scalfor3 - Jan 4, 2013 at 10:04 PM

      Well, that’s just incorrect. Spurs are younger (and better) by every possible measure.

  18. lakerluver - Jan 4, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    Chuck commenting on a championship is like old “what’s his name” commenting on a hot chick, their both clueless on how it feels to have one.

    • bozosforall - Jan 5, 2013 at 12:37 AM

      Where have you been hiding, dude?

  19. mazblast - Jan 4, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    I think the Lakers have a 50% chance of winning the title. Little Caesar wants a Heat-Lakers “The Finals” (because those two teams from glamor towns sell the most sh**) and IMO he’ll have his flunkies do what’s necessary to get it, and from there he may let things evolve their own way.

    Also, I don’t think Barkley has that much of an idea of who can win it. His opinions are so consistently all over the place that you’d think he was an ESPN reporter bringing a “hot ‘news’ item” to us “FIRST!!!” Charles’ job is to be outspoken; accuracy is optional.

  20. infectorman - Jan 4, 2013 at 8:27 PM

    “Old and Slow”,
    Chuck would know

    A few short months ago, Nash and Howard would round out a sure-fire title run.
    Too bad faker fans, you’re KoME era is done

    • macka4 - Jan 11, 2013 at 9:27 AM

      Yeah, maybe 4 to 5 yrs ago.

  21. paulhargis53 - Jan 4, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    Cmon sausage wallet, you can do better than that, can’t y…..wait look who I’m talking to.

    A 38 year old that worships large black men ,all the while acting like a lovestruck middle school girl, is talking about my success with women?

    bozo/lakerluver I’ll put in your terms.
    You haven’t had puh c since puh c had you.
    Your homoerotic altar ego of bozo, shows where your tastes lie.
    Why are you even attempting to do verbal battle with me? I’ve made you a laughingstock. I tried to give you an out, yet you keep coming back for more.

    No more posting tonight from you. First off, the lakers will get spanked. Secondly, isn’t Friday night getting poked in the fartbox night for you and your fella?

    • bozosforall - Jan 5, 2013 at 12:35 AM

      Still trotting out the lame stle commentary, I see, Pudhummer53.

      As for the fartbox comment, that applies to you fey Boston boys only.

  22. 13fitzj - Jan 4, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    I’d take his word for it. Chuck knows all about not winning titles.

  23. dko83 - Jan 4, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    In other news, Charles right as per usual. Because how many titles he has speaks to his basketball analysis abilities… Idiots.

  24. themagicfanguy - Jan 5, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    A.) Spurs aren’t the oldest team in the NBA
    B.) Why wouldn’t Chuck know what he’s talking about? He played the game at a HoF level for years, as opposed to commenters who just read a few blogs a day.
    C.) Lakers won’t even make the playoffs, so you don’t need to worry about beating ONE team, let alone a couple in a row.
    D.) Lakerluver, you forgot that you’re supposed to use the Bozo handle when the Lakers are losing.

  25. paulhargis53 - Jan 5, 2013 at 12:48 AM

    cmon bozo/lakerluver, you aren’t THIS bad at posting. Regurgitating everything I say is not good posting. You are unfunny, unoriginal and plain ignorant.

    Why are you posting now? Oh, that’s right. The lakers are getting poked in the fartbox by the Clippers right now.

    JKY.

    • bozosforall - Jan 5, 2013 at 4:35 AM

      Regurgitating? Sounds like the manjuice that you hack back up at the end of your dates. Again, the only fartbox poking is over on your end…make that IN your end, poof boy.

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