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	<title>Comments on: Raptors have gone 8-2 without Bargnani. Coincidence?</title>
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		<title>By: borderline1988</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[borderline1988]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 14:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ed Davis is sticking those 10 - 15 foot jumpers when rolling off picks...it makes a huge difference b/c his offensive game is limited (he doesn&#039;t have much of a back to the basket game, and can&#039;t really face people up). Good for him. 

There are lots of big men who can defend and rebound, but ones who can set screens and hit those jumpers when rolling off them will always have a job in the NBA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed Davis is sticking those 10 &#8211; 15 foot jumpers when rolling off picks&#8230;it makes a huge difference b/c his offensive game is limited (he doesn&#8217;t have much of a back to the basket game, and can&#8217;t really face people up). Good for him. </p>
<p>There are lots of big men who can defend and rebound, but ones who can set screens and hit those jumpers when rolling off them will always have a job in the NBA.</p>
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		<title>By: badintent</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[badintent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 03:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Balls  ? Ball Girls ? Laker Girls ?? Some LA courtside A-list hoes ? A combination of the latter and the former.?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Balls  ? Ball Girls ? Laker Girls ?? Some LA courtside A-list hoes ? A combination of the latter and the former.?</p>
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		<title>By: saint1997</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 02:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Calderon is an easy player to like. Never whinges, never moans. What about him to the Hornets for Al-Farouq??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calderon is an easy player to like. Never whinges, never moans. What about him to the Hornets for Al-Farouq??</p>
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		<title>By: ruffridin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ruffridin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 02:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bargs and Jose to the Lakers for Pau and a couple balls]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bargs and Jose to the Lakers for Pau and a couple balls</p>
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		<title>By: borderline1988</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[borderline1988]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 01:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That would only explain a lack of offensive rebounds. Defensively, he&#039;s usually covering the opposing centre, and considering he&#039;s a very big body and plays lots of minutes, he should be able to have a respectable RPG.

Compare him to Amir Johnson, who usually covers more mobile big men, yet per 48 minutes kills Bargnani on the boards. It&#039;s called hustle and a willingness to mix things up near the basket. Amir Johnson has that natural aggressiveness and nose for the ball. Bargnani simply does not. 

I can&#039;t even tell you how many times I;ve seen opposing forwards get position on Bargnani, and then get easy rebounds while Bargnani is just standing behind him. 

That&#039;s what pisses me off about Bargnani. At least put some effort into the game when you don&#039;t have the ball. Or get in better shape so you can actually jump a little.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would only explain a lack of offensive rebounds. Defensively, he&#8217;s usually covering the opposing centre, and considering he&#8217;s a very big body and plays lots of minutes, he should be able to have a respectable RPG.</p>
<p>Compare him to Amir Johnson, who usually covers more mobile big men, yet per 48 minutes kills Bargnani on the boards. It&#8217;s called hustle and a willingness to mix things up near the basket. Amir Johnson has that natural aggressiveness and nose for the ball. Bargnani simply does not. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t even tell you how many times I;ve seen opposing forwards get position on Bargnani, and then get easy rebounds while Bargnani is just standing behind him. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what pisses me off about Bargnani. At least put some effort into the game when you don&#8217;t have the ball. Or get in better shape so you can actually jump a little.</p>
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		<title>By: nygdriveforfive</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nygdriveforfive]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 19:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barny&#039;s game as we all know is perimeter based. Part of his poor rpg stats can be attributed to the raps scheme and trying to &quot;play&quot; to his strengths (scoring). If they played himblike a traditional Big his rpg would go way up. His ppg would go way down. Should he have developed at least one post up move by now?? heck yes! He is what he is and not having to give up much for him I&#039;m quite sure most teams would love to have him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barny&#8217;s game as we all know is perimeter based. Part of his poor rpg stats can be attributed to the raps scheme and trying to &#8220;play&#8221; to his strengths (scoring). If they played himblike a traditional Big his rpg would go way up. His ppg would go way down. Should he have developed at least one post up move by now?? heck yes! He is what he is and not having to give up much for him I&#8217;m quite sure most teams would love to have him.</p>
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		<title>By: misterchainbluelightning</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[misterchainbluelightning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 19:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That and you just traded a lottery pick to get Lowry so trading him is kinda out of the question right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That and you just traded a lottery pick to get Lowry so trading him is kinda out of the question right now.</p>
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		<title>By: misterchainbluelightning</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[misterchainbluelightning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 19:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hornets, Magic, and Cavaliers were considering the Raptors &quot;the soft part of the schedule&quot; before they started playing well. Just saying]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hornets, Magic, and Cavaliers were considering the Raptors &#8220;the soft part of the schedule&#8221; before they started playing well. Just saying</p>
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		<title>By: gpatrick15</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gpatrick15]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have always felt that, on the right team, with the right system, he could thrive in a &quot;extremely poor mans Dirk Nowitzki&quot; kind of role. At this point, we know what Bargnani is: an offensive PF with very little defensive presence and absolutely no presence on the glass. He needs a coach who would focus on what he is and not harp on about what he isn&#039;t. If he played on a team with a dominant center or a team with a defensive background, that would hide his inefficiencies and allow him to thrive. He could play &quot;extremely poor mans Dirk&quot; on a contender, and everyone would forget that he&#039;s a 7ft traffic cone defensively. Whatever teams pulls the trigger on him could potentially get a good 2nd or 3rd option on offense, and hide him on defense and get away with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always felt that, on the right team, with the right system, he could thrive in a &#8220;extremely poor mans Dirk Nowitzki&#8221; kind of role. At this point, we know what Bargnani is: an offensive PF with very little defensive presence and absolutely no presence on the glass. He needs a coach who would focus on what he is and not harp on about what he isn&#8217;t. If he played on a team with a dominant center or a team with a defensive background, that would hide his inefficiencies and allow him to thrive. He could play &#8220;extremely poor mans Dirk&#8221; on a contender, and everyone would forget that he&#8217;s a 7ft traffic cone defensively. Whatever teams pulls the trigger on him could potentially get a good 2nd or 3rd option on offense, and hide him on defense and get away with it.</p>
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		<title>By: nygdriveforfive</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nygdriveforfive]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you HAVE to start Eddie D. His production in limited minutes has proven not be a fluke, now that he is getting starter minutes. Listen, is Barny a bust? I would say no seeing as he is the prob the best player not named Aldridge from that draft. Trading him now would certainly be selling low. Even if he comes back and struggles of the bench, I&#039;m not sure his trade stock could drop any lower. His D has gotten better year over year but it is still pretty bad for a guy his size. Having a true center would help Barny alot with his defensive deficiencies. Barny coming of the bench without the burden of being the primary rebounder/stoper would be ideal. I don&#039;t know where he fits in but I don&#039;t want to deal him for nothing as he has proven to be a top 10 scoring big man in the east.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you HAVE to start Eddie D. His production in limited minutes has proven not be a fluke, now that he is getting starter minutes. Listen, is Barny a bust? I would say no seeing as he is the prob the best player not named Aldridge from that draft. Trading him now would certainly be selling low. Even if he comes back and struggles of the bench, I&#8217;m not sure his trade stock could drop any lower. His D has gotten better year over year but it is still pretty bad for a guy his size. Having a true center would help Barny alot with his defensive deficiencies. Barny coming of the bench without the burden of being the primary rebounder/stoper would be ideal. I don&#8217;t know where he fits in but I don&#8217;t want to deal him for nothing as he has proven to be a top 10 scoring big man in the east.</p>
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		<title>By: nagidac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nagidac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate that the Raps are going to trade Calderon, but if he can take Bargnani with him and get some talent back, then adios!  Calderon has been playing fantastic this season, but with Lowry now back from injuries, the team isn&#039;t big enough for both of them.  Personally, I&#039;d rather Calderon right now, but Lowry has more potential long term, so the smart move is to keep him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate that the Raps are going to trade Calderon, but if he can take Bargnani with him and get some talent back, then adios!  Calderon has been playing fantastic this season, but with Lowry now back from injuries, the team isn&#8217;t big enough for both of them.  Personally, I&#8217;d rather Calderon right now, but Lowry has more potential long term, so the smart move is to keep him.</p>
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