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Knicks tried to trade Stoudemire, didn’t work. Now they have to fit him in.

Dec 21, 2012, 11:38 AM EDT

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The Knicks are good. Top of the Eastern Conference, best offense in the land, getting fantastic play from Carmelo Anthony, steady point guard play from Raymond Felton and Jason Kidd, solid defense thanks to Tyson Chandler.

And now they have to work in Amare Stoudemire. And everyone is a little usure what happens next.

Stoudemire is working out and could be back as soon as next week, maybe the Christmas Day nationally televised game against the Lakers (which is also likely when Steve Nash makes his return to the Lakers).

Nobody knows how this is going to go, but if you believe the Knicks think this could work you should read these couple paragraphs from Howard Beck at the New York Times.

This past summer, the Knicks offered Stoudemire to nearly every team in the league — “available for free,” as one rival executive put it. But they found no takers because of his diminished production, his health and his contract, which has three years and $65 million remaining (counting this season) and which is uninsured against a career-ending knee injury.

In February, the Knicks wanted to send Stoudemire to Toronto in a deal for Andrea Bargnani, a person briefed on the discussion said. But the proposal was vetoed by James L. Dolan, the Garden chairman, before it ever reached the Raptors (who would not have made the deal anyway, team officials there said). Before that, the Knicks tried to package Stoudemire and Chandler in a bid to land Dwight Howard.

From the day Mike Woodson took over as Knicks coach it was clear what direction he was taking the team — this is Carmelo’s team. He is the sun, everyone else is a planet in his orbit. To Anthony’s credit, he has stepped up his game to fill that role — he is more efficient on offense, he is getting his buckets in the flow of the offense (most of the time), he is defending, he is being a real leader, he is looking like an MVP player.

Stoudemire is the guy whose orbit could be hard to fit into the solar system — his skills are redundant with Anthony at the four, and if Anthony defers to him and plays more as a three way away from the basket he goes away from what has worked in New York this season. The Knicks front office knew it, they tried to solve the problem by trading Stoudemire, but with that failing Woodson will bring Stoudemire off the bench and try to make it work somehow. We could end up with a situation where Stoudemire and Anthony are rarely on the court together.

But if they can find a way to make it work — if Stoudemire, Anthony and Tyson Chandler can all be on the floor together and the Knicks keep their offensive spacing and make good on the threat of all that talent — then the Heat should be worried. At the quarter mark of the NBA season Miami and New York are the clear best teams in the East, but if Woodson can get this to work this could be the Knicks year.

But based on their actions this summer, doesn’t sound like the Knicks are at all confident that can happen. And as they can’t trade him.

It’s going to get interesting in New York.

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  2. giantssb42champs - Dec 21, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    Lakers will take him for their dream team.

    • scalfor3 - Dec 21, 2012 at 3:20 PM

      dream team? you mean like the eagles?

  3. leeeroooyjeeenkiiins - Dec 21, 2012 at 12:32 PM

    No way would I ever want that albatross of a contract on my team. But if means getting rid of Bargnani? I think that’s actually worth consideration lol

  4. cantonbound13 - Dec 21, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    Bird, McHale & Parrish turned out pretty good, why can’t these 3. They were 8-2 together under Woody.

    • borderline1988 - Dec 21, 2012 at 12:53 PM

      Perhaps, but when you consider that contract and injury risk, if there are takers, then you trade him no matter what. It could work, but it just isn’t worth the risk.

      Although the Knicks have no choice at this point.

  5. JP Mc Loughlin - Dec 21, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    Lebron and co will still have too much for the Knicks.

    • cantonbound13 - Dec 21, 2012 at 2:34 PM

      I’m more concerned about OKC than the Heat.

      • JP Mc Loughlin - Dec 21, 2012 at 3:21 PM

        Yes but in terms of the east Heat should see it through. OKC are my pick for the title though.

    • fanofevilempire - Dec 21, 2012 at 3:11 PM

      you better fix you TV, Wade has bad wheels. LeBron will think he is back
      in Cleveland in a couple years.

      Knicks spanked you guys and we have Amare and Shumpert returning.

      oh boy!

  6. sdelmonte - Dec 21, 2012 at 2:09 PM

    Considering that Amare was the lead voice in the “bring Melo to NYC” campaign, it’s so weird how things have worked out.

  7. badintent - Dec 21, 2012 at 2:15 PM

    Amare, Melo =Howard/Bynum,Gasol Drama
    ALWAYS must question Kurt’s sources on East Coast news, since he’s based in LA

    • scalfor3 - Dec 21, 2012 at 3:23 PM

      his source is the new york times

  8. fm31970 - Dec 21, 2012 at 2:47 PM

    “Woodson will bring Stoudemire off the bench”

    That’s not the worst problem to have. There will be games where the other team slows the game down, and Amare will be a better play at that time.

    Deal with him for three years, NY. He’s not horrible.

  9. trschlicht - Dec 21, 2012 at 2:48 PM

    That could have been a decent trade for Orlando. Definitely better than what they got for Howard in the end.

  10. fanofevilempire - Dec 21, 2012 at 3:14 PM

    you fellas are wrong.
    Amare is not dumb the Knicks are 19-6 without him!
    anyway Amare said yesterday he doesn’t know when he will be back.
    when he is back he will have to come off the bench anyway, which won’t be bad for the team.
    he is a team guy and would like to win now.
    no problem here.

  11. yousuxxors - Dec 21, 2012 at 3:32 PM

    I dont believe this

  12. loungefly74 - Dec 21, 2012 at 3:52 PM

    what would be best for the Knicks? to have Stat be happy coming off the bench. don’t mess with a good thing as they have right now…

  13. davidly - Dec 21, 2012 at 3:56 PM

    Hey, you think if somebody burned a doob with Nash before tipoff, he’d accidentally pass it to Amare?

  14. marcusfitzhugh - Dec 21, 2012 at 4:27 PM

    The Knicks called Orlando and said, “We’ll send you this and that for Howard”. Didn’t every other team in the league do the exact same thing?

    Next Point
    Some unnamed “rival executive” said the Knicks offered Stat to nearly every team in the league – for free. Yeah right. Think they offered him to Brooklyn? Philly? Boston? Miami? Atlanta? Chicago? No huh? Is it possible a “rival executive” may have an agenda? You know, upset the locker room chemistry of the team with best record in the east?

    Final Point
    So in FEBRUARY someone on the Knicks wanted to send Stat to Toronto. That was rejected by the owner and D’Antoni quits the NEXT MONTH. I don’t see that Woodson (who was then an assistant coach) had anything to say about a trade that didn’t take place the MONTH BEFORE he became head coach. Here’s what we know, someone without the clout to pull off the deal thought it was a good idea. Here’s a little spin – I wonder if that same someone is still an employee of the Knicks. If not, I wonder if he’d like Stat on the Lakers.

  15. bougin89 - Dec 21, 2012 at 5:07 PM

    And just think, two years ago Amare was having a career year and was a godsend for the Knicks after they lost out on Lebron in free agency. Things have changed quickly.

  16. dysraw1 - Dec 21, 2012 at 8:36 PM

    its funny to me i wanted Stoudemire on this team since he came in the league now that we have him these crazy front office guys want to trade my dude.we all know the mans body has been through some wars because he goes so hard.bringing him here was the start of this becoming a serious team, let him get back build some chemistry with the guys. see it through at least 1 season before tossing in the towel

  17. jordanaires - Dec 22, 2012 at 6:33 AM

    Can’t the Knicks amnesty/cut Amare? Or have they already used it on someone else?

  18. jordanaires - Dec 22, 2012 at 6:36 AM

    Too bad they used their amnesty clause on Baron Davis.

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