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Report: Celtics want another big, may offer Lee to get it

Dec 18, 2012, 8:44 AM EDT

Boston Celtics guard Courtney Lee drives to the basket past Brooklyn Nets forward Reggie Evans in the second half of their NBA basketball game in Boston Reuters

Things are not right in Boston — this was a veteran team that was expected to break out of the pack in the East and be the team that would challenge Miami for conference supremacy.

Instead the Knicks have broken out of the pack while the Celtics have floated around .500 (12-11) and they are the currently the eight seed in the East. Some things need to change.

That may include making a trade to bring in another big man, David Aldridge reports in his weekly must-read column at (great stuff on the Lakers and other trade rumor updates here as well).

(Courtney) Lee agreed to four-year, $21 million contract in a sign-and-trade deal that sent him from Houston to Boston in a three-way trade also involving Portland. But he’s shooting just 28.6 percent from 3-point range this season, well off his career mark of 38.6 percent (and way off last season’s 40.1 percent behind the arc).

And with Jason Terry in tow and Avery Bradley close to making his return from shoulder surgeries in the summer, the Celtics — looking hard for one more big man — have one off-guard too many.

The problem Boston — and every team looking for a big man — faces is there are not that many good ones out there. Zach Lowe suggests maybe Ryan Hollins with the Clippers, who has fallen behind DeAndre Jordan and Ronny Turiaf in the rotation. But there is a reason Hollins has fallen behind those guys and he’s not a real impact/game changing kind of guy. He’s not some huge upgrade over Chris Wilcox.

Maybe someone will come on the market and Lee is a good chip to have, but this will not be easy for Boston.

  1. 1972wasalongtimeago - Dec 18, 2012 at 8:50 AM

    Actually, they are who we thought they were.

    • andyhr17 - Dec 18, 2012 at 9:48 AM

      Kinda like they were who you thought they were last year, when they hovered around .500 and below before the end of the season. Celtics are nowhere near dominant so far this year, but then again I didn’t realize that playoff seedings were decided in mid-December.

      • 1972wasalongtimeago - Dec 18, 2012 at 11:53 AM

        Um…..yeah. Nobody expected them to be #1 seed in the East. Nobody expected them to suck.
        They’re alright. Not alright in a groovy, Matthew McConnaughey kind of way.
        Alright in a Janine Garofolo, circa 1993 kind of way. Seen worse. Seen better.

      • andyhr17 - Dec 18, 2012 at 4:18 PM

        My point is just that it is way to early in the season to judge a veteran team like the Celtics or Lakers who are both playing without key injured players. Historically, the Celtics are a team that kicks it into high gear when it counts, which is ultra frustrating for a fan for the majority of the season.

  2. barkley4life - Dec 18, 2012 at 8:52 AM

    I could have sworn Boston fans around here were touting Courtney Lee as a MAJOR upgrade with Terry over Ray Allen. Ainge gambled badly on Lee who has been nothing but a slightly above average guard his entire career.

    With Lee playing as terrible as he is right now, if Avery can’t stay healthy, down the stretch the Celtics are going to be in trouble.

    Not to mention all the “don’t forget we didn’t have Chris Wilcox and Jeff Green vs the Heat” NONSENSE….

    • andyhr17 - Dec 18, 2012 at 4:21 PM

      Courtney Lee was brought in to replace Bradley while he was injured. His main role is defense, not something that will fill up the box score.

      • barkley4life - Dec 19, 2012 at 2:14 PM

        That’s nonsense. He was brought in to provide both. If they were only looking for a defensive role player they couldve picked a Keith Bogans type and not given the mid level exception. His value was that he could hit 3’s AND defend. I have watched the C’s game all year and if you never saw him play you would say he was an average defender at best this year.

  3. bleed4philly - Dec 18, 2012 at 9:30 AM

    We’ll give you Bynum for a box of twinkles.

    • ocgunslinger - Dec 18, 2012 at 9:52 AM

      A box of 12 or 24 twinkies?

    • miamatt - Dec 18, 2012 at 12:49 PM

      Would you consider a half-empty bag of gas station powdered donuts?

      • 00maltliquor - Dec 18, 2012 at 1:58 PM

        Mmmmmm…gas station powdered donuts! A High-Schoolers breakfast of Champions! Lol

  4. whitdog23 - Dec 18, 2012 at 9:59 AM

    so the article basically says “the Celtics are dreaming”

  5. pcbliss - Dec 18, 2012 at 10:01 AM

    Does Kurt realize the Celtics already had Ryan Hollins last year?

    • Kurt Helin - Dec 20, 2012 at 1:58 PM

      Yes. And I’ve seen Ryan Hollins play.

  6. eventhorizon04 - Dec 18, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    Teams nowadays can’t get a quality big-man for a quality guard, given the lack of talented big-men in the league.
    And right now, Courtney Lee isn’t playing like a quality guard, so I don’t see this working out for Boston.

    Their best bet is for guys like Jared Sullinger to keep developing.

    • andyhr17 - Dec 18, 2012 at 10:35 AM

      Anything is better than Ryan Hollins.

  7. scalfor3 - Dec 18, 2012 at 11:43 AM

    Lee isn’t playing as badly as those numbers show. He’s in a shooting slump but is still a plus defender who can slash to the basket. I’d love to keep him, but Bradley does the same things only better. If he can get us a solid big, pull the trigger.

  8. pl4tinum514 - Dec 18, 2012 at 12:21 PM

    nobody wants anything they have except maybe rondo.

  9. miamatt - Dec 18, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    This is awfully similar to how the Celtics looked early on last year. Doc is too good a coach and there is too much talent for them not to round into form. I still have them as a top 4 seed in the East, and the Heat and Knicks will cross their respective fingers, hoping the other one has to deal with that curmudgeonly leprechaun.

  10. bepee2002 - Dec 18, 2012 at 1:09 PM

    send him to Milwaukee for Drew Gooden

  11. 00maltliquor - Dec 18, 2012 at 2:01 PM

    Why not ask Utah to give up Jeremy Evans? He’s a big that’s talented but is superglued, nailed, and shackled on the bench. I’m sure they can use a SG in exchange.

  12. hehateme2 - Dec 18, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    “this was a veteran team that was expected to break out of the pack in the East and be the team that would challenge Miami for conference supremacy.”

    That priceless! I’m still laughing!!

  13. 32magicman - Dec 18, 2012 at 3:48 PM

    I hear dennis rodman is available and will work cheap…

  14. barkley4life - Dec 18, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    Their best bets are on the team right now. If by the end of the season Avery and Jeff Green aren’t integral parts of the Celtics rotation and contributing heavily they will get bounced badly come playoff time.

    If ANYTHING happens to Garnett this team will fall apart.

    • andyhr17 - Dec 18, 2012 at 4:20 PM

      You got that right with the Garnett part. He might not put up the stats that he did years ago, but look at the numbers on how the team performs when he’s on the court vs. when he’s not on the court.

      • barkley4life - Dec 19, 2012 at 2:15 PM

        Garnett is still balling but nowhere near the level as last year. In the early stages when Doc moved him to the 5 spot last year he was a monster. He wore down the stretch but when he did have legs he was on beast mode.

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