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Mark Jackson says Dwyane Wade is third best shooting guard ever

Dec 13, 2012, 1:09 PM EDT

Miami Heat's Dwyane Wade drives between New Orleans Hornets in the second half of their NBA basketball game in Miami, Florida Reuters

After a couple stellar games, Dwyane Wade was pretty pedestrian on Wednesday night — 14 points on 5-of-11 shooting, five assists and five turnovers.

Which in some minds revived the “has Wade lost a step” that had Charles Barkley and LeBron James sniping back and forth over it.

Mark Jackson is too smart and too media savvy to get drawn into that mess. When asked about what he sees from Dwyane Wade on tape, he paid him a very high compliment, via the Palm Beach Post:

“He’s a guy I love as a basketball fan,” Jackson said. “To me, he’s the third-best shooting guard to play the game. People think I’m crazy for saying that. And there’s no disrespect to anybody else. The guy is a winner, he competes, he’s an underrated passer, and we all know he can score the basketball.”

When asked, Jackson said Michael Jordan was No. 1 and Kobe Bryant was second. That is kind of the consensus today, although I think Jerry West is the guy who gets screwed in that discussion. You can also make a case for George Gervin if you want, same with Clyde Drexler. Don’t try to make a Reggie Miller case to break that top three, although top five maybe.

Wade’s career numbers (so far): 25 points a game on 48.6 percent shooting, a career PER of 25.6, two NBA titles and one NBA finals MVP, eight All-Star games and an almost certain future Hall of Famer.

That is a great job by Jackson to dodge the current debate and get us debating something else.

  1. jtchernak - Dec 13, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    Not even in top 10 he used to be good guy an player until he started to rely on being a paint pounder an cryin for the call every game.

    • heatrule - Dec 14, 2012 at 1:51 AM

      Um, no, go away. Wade badass, u dumb.

  2. miamatt - Dec 13, 2012 at 1:23 PM

    Agreed 100%. Wade hasn’t had the career of MJ or Kobe, but I’d take him over anybody else I’ve seen. Cold Blooded.

  3. rick1v - Dec 13, 2012 at 1:30 PM

    umm, West, Oscar Robertson??? Curse of recent memory bias.

    • skids003 - Dec 13, 2012 at 1:47 PM

      I totally agree.

  4. narrabeen23 - Dec 13, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    “The Logo” begs to differ

  5. misterdreamer119 - Dec 13, 2012 at 2:01 PM

    Hes not a memorable type player and he gets injured frequently. Jackson is kissing up.

  6. coasttocoast12 - Dec 13, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/04/jackson-says-reggie-miller-is-third-best-shooting-guard-ever/

    What the … Mark Jackson ?

    • dko83 - Dec 13, 2012 at 2:11 PM

      haha, good memory, nice find.

  7. sportsnut101 - Dec 13, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    i like mark jackson but dude what are u smoking out their in cali

    dwade is star no doubt about it but 3rd please man yea its jordan kobe then a long space behind them i got jerry west allen iverson iceman gervin reggie miller before him

    yes dwade has 2 titles one finals he was great but other finals i forgot he was there

    his career not done so maybe he does move up when done but pls iverson did it night in night out didnt miss games due to injury like dwayde just cause u have titles doesnt mean u always the better player

  8. SOBEIT - Dec 13, 2012 at 2:45 PM

    Coach Jackson, not the media guy or former player, since joining the Warriors to take on the tremendous challenge to help turnaround a team and franchise in order to develop a new identity has been nothing but humble, honest, a realist and conservative. But what I have seen the most out of him is a level headed coach and game manager who understands that everything is a learning process and nothing is guaranteed…especially success. What you will also see is that he is a fan of the game and the players. He tries to stay away from bulletin board type material to be too controversial. But at the end of the day, he is a fan of the game and you will see bursts of true excitement about the progress of this young, still developing team. And then he will tone it back down and be back to the reserved coaching style.

  9. fanofevilempire - Dec 13, 2012 at 3:13 PM

    I didn’t see BIG O play, but I know he once averaged a Triple Double for the entire season
    and the LOGO, well he is the LOGO…………..

    I would say top five.

    • daddyghi - Dec 14, 2012 at 12:39 AM

      jerry west is the logo

  10. eflem80 - Dec 13, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    He also said once that Kobe is better than Jordan….never cared about his opinion ever again after that.

  11. willardj - Dec 13, 2012 at 3:35 PM

    Jerry West is such overrated garbage. He could only dribble with one hand! Nowadays most advanced girl’s league players can dribble with both. You can see how much better we’ve gotten at basketball.

    • daddyghi - Dec 14, 2012 at 12:42 AM

      i bet those dislikes came from lakers fans…

    • camnellum12 - Dec 14, 2012 at 8:04 AM

      You idiot, you couldn’t crossover back in 60’s, it was considered palming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDRQ0FYhC0U&feature=share&list=PL8382A6A1ED0625C7

  12. willardj - Dec 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM

    If Jerry West weren’t the NBA logo, literally none of these so-called “basketball experts” would know who he is. These people act like that because they’ve seen some of his youtube highlights they can make enough judgment to call him one of the greatest of all time.

    • camnellum12 - Dec 14, 2012 at 7:59 AM

      This is the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen on PBT. Are you serious????? West was a COMPLETE guard: could create his own shot, create for his teammates, helluva defender, very good clutch player, great leader (went to the Finals 9 times), and could score in every way imaginable. Please don’t call yourself a basketball fan, you are a shame to the sport:

  13. bleedgreenation - Dec 13, 2012 at 4:19 PM

    Does nobody remember that all-time Finals performance by D-Wade.. I don’t remember him ever missing a shot.. It was one of the most remarkable Finals performances since Jordan’s back in the 90s.

  14. BigBeachBall - Dec 13, 2012 at 4:45 PM

    You guys ever heard of Martelius “bean shooter” Brinkley?
    He was a shooting guard in the negro league back during the “prohibition era”
    What short memories all you have… probably the best guard in basketball history…

    • fanofevilempire - Dec 13, 2012 at 5:25 PM

      if he was that good how come nobody knows him………………….

      did he ever play for the Memphis Moonshiners??
      cause that was my all time negro league team……….

      I loved ole hill billie Johnson, he had one tooth, but always had a smile.

      later fellas, knicks N lakers tonight!

  15. 00maltliquor - Dec 13, 2012 at 5:27 PM

    The Big O??? Where he at?! smdh. D Wade 4th or 5th .

  16. paulhargis53 - Dec 13, 2012 at 8:04 PM

    willardj: Those 2 comments about Jerry West are the most idiotic things I’ve read on here since lakerluver roamed these boards.
    Your total lack of knowledge of the history of the NBA game is alarming. You should be ashamed of yourself.
    Of course you’re most definitely one of these turds that thinks the NBA started when Jordan started playing.
    West was a complete player, a clutch player and the best laker ever.

    For you to write off the 50s -70s guys because they played before sportscenter is about the most moronic thing ever.

    You sir, are not a very smart person.

    • heatrule - Dec 14, 2012 at 2:19 AM

      Not only that but even in the sportcenter era, Allen Iverson pretty good. Love you’re comment about all the dummies that think basketball started with Jordan. If Jordan greatest ever is a “fact” proved by six rings, these people got to wonder why the finals mvp trophy is called the Bill Russell trophy. 11 rings kids. As many as Jordan and Kobe combined. He was a 6_9 center. His rival? 7_1 guy named Wilt Chamberlain, he was good too. One season he AVERAGED 50 points and 32 rebounds per game. Also Dr. J should be remembered as one if the greatest 2 guards ever. Sorry Dr J if you don’t have video games it a sneaker line you don’t count I guess. Hey Paul, too many stupid people blog without knowing shit.

  17. ckinthekc99 - Dec 13, 2012 at 10:05 PM

    Reggie Miller at his best > Dwyane Wade at his best

  18. milkcan44 - Dec 14, 2012 at 12:47 AM

    The Big “O” was stronger and could muscle any of these guys, especially with today’s training. Jordan 1st, although Big “O” could guard him. Then Big “O”, then Kobe. Wade in top 5, but only during his best season several years ago.

    • Kurt Helin - Dec 14, 2012 at 3:01 AM

      I tend to think of Oscar as a three, but he should be in the mix here I guess.

      • davidly - Dec 14, 2012 at 4:12 AM

        I tend to agree. This is why I think that that if they are ridding the All-Star ballot of the center position, why not just have five spots and leave it at that?

      • davidly - Dec 14, 2012 at 4:13 AM

        To clarify, I prefer the center position on the ballot.

      • paulhargis53 - Dec 14, 2012 at 9:48 AM

        Kurt, Oscar was a PG/SG. One of the first of the “big” guards.
        I don’t think he’s ever been considered a SF.

        Where he played on the floor really has no bearing as his position is classified as guard.
        So I believe he belongs on this list. He belongs very close to the top.
        He nearly averaged a triple double for his career. No one has done that since.(Wilt and Russel would have had blocked shots Bern a stat back then.)

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