Comments on: NBA owners forced to choose between Maloofs and Sacramento in remake of Major League

By: gls24

gls24 — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 23:07:55 +0000

Those “sold out” games were attended by many masquerading as blue and red seats.

The only thing phonier than the “sell out” streak is the Maloofs stating they are committed to staying Sacramento.

By: gls24

gls24 — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 23:03:03 +0000

Realistically speaking, Stockton and Modesto are not in the area which should be counted for ticket sales or for TV numbers. The greater portion of the ticket sales are in Sacramento County, Southern Placer County, (specifically Roseville) and Yolo County (West Sacramento).

There will not be a an arena deal in Sacramento using parking revenues as was proposed. That ship has sailed. The voters, and taxpayers, of this city just voted in a 1/2 cent sales tax increase for line items other than propping up a private enterprise. We need infrastucture revitilization, not NBA subsidies.

The Kings will not get a third try at public funds for an arena.

Sacramento’s government can barely do what a government should do, let alone delve into a project better left to the private sector.

By: Dan M.

Dan M. — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:56:04 +0000

This is a Per 36 record on PBT: fewest grammatical errors per 36 words.

Best article I’ve read on the site, both in terms of appearing to have been proofread before posted, and in terms of content.

By: sgeary13

sgeary13 — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:52:28 +0000

Wow michaeljones300! If you ever spent any significant time in Sacramento, then you would see how die-hard fans we are of the Kings. This city has been one of the hardest hit in the state with the recession. The reason we don’t go to games is 1)we have to be wise with our money 2)why would we pay the Maloofs anything when they invest nothing? 3)we watch games on tv due to the great anouncers we have. As for your interpretation of the city you have a limited scope. We are a proud group who know when to fight and when to move on. We love our team and our city but the NBA has done nothing to help small-market teams. As for your fair-weather fan concept, that happens everywhere…look at miami, boston, even new york. When teams start winning the fan-base grows. It’s a simple fact in sports. No one is forcing you to come to or stay in Sacramento, but you can’t argue against the fact that our city is getting raped by big-market sports. Our city may be small but our voice and pride is big.

By: wigglypoff

wigglypoff — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:36:07 +0000

You(Michael) do not know what you are talking about. I’ve seen this play out with multiple requests to vote on each year to ask for money from my pocket(while at the same time charging 80-120$ for a ticket that’s on the second level to watch a team that has become unwatchable). Back when the ownership cared prior to the so called good years the kings lead the league in sell outs every year(that would be every game even prior to the winning years). When Mitch Richmond would carry the whole team and they would lose, but they gave their heart and the ownership wanted the team to win. Now, they trade every good player we get(evens,cousins, salmon are good but will soon be traded I’m sure). We traded Martin, stopped playing Garcia, got rid of Turk, Barnes and any other player that was popular. The idea here is they trade or eliminate anything that is popular. No thanks ill watch on tv instead of forking over way too much money to watch a team that won’t be here in a year or 2. Maybe the team will still be here but it will be a bunch of guys I’ve never heard of because if they become popular they’ll get traded. Fans??? What have you ever done for your team. The fans here have given their time at rallies and fundraisers(not taxes but money freely contributed by their own choice). So just get your facts right.

By: caliwinsurf

caliwinsurf — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:47:56 +0000

Actually, the Sacramento Kings sold out every game from 1985 – 1998. Until recently, it was the 3rd longest streak in NBA history. Oh, and by the way, the Kings only made the playoffs twice during that time.

By: eashness

eashness — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 12:11:43 +0000

Because I’ve actually been a Kings fan since the late 80′s I took the time to set this troll straight.

Kings fan’s are just bandwagoners? Average attendance followed by winning percentage.

1989-90 17,014 0.280
1990-91 17,014 0.305
1991-92 17,014 0.354
1992-93 17,317 0.305
1993-94 17,317 0.341
1994-95 17,317 0.476
1995-96 17,317 0.476
1996-97 17,317 0.414
1997-98 14,767 0.329
1998-99 16,750 0.540
1999-00 17,562 0.537
2000-01 17,317 0.671
2001-02 17,317 0.744
2002-03 17,317 0.720
2003-04 17,317 0.671
2004-05 17,317 0.610
2005-06 17,317 0.537
2006-07 17,317 0.402
2007-08 14,150 0.463
2008-09 12,687 0.207
2009-10 13,254 0.305
2010-11 13,890 0.293
2011-12 14,508 0.333

As for the rest of your ramblings about Sacramento being boring, are you some kind of baby who needs extravagant clubs and events just to have fun? I personally prefer the simpler things in life, like looking up facts to prove idiots wrong on the internet, which by the way took about 10 minutes (including the time to make a wordpress account just to make this post).

By: lfpmedia

lfpmedia — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:47:09 +0000

Reblogged this on indiesoulspokenword and commented: One of the best articles I have read pertaining to business and sports. Written so that anyone can understand.

By: lfpmedia

lfpmedia — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:44:03 +0000

Awesome article. You nailed it.

By: ckenngott18

ckenngott18 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:16:46 +0000

Plus you have the Chiefs, Royals, and Sporting KC to contend with

By: michaeljones300

michaeljones300 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 03:20:50 +0000

Send the Kings elsewhere! Sacramento does not deserve them. It’s simple math people. Arco Arena seats fewer people than any arena in the league. So if the seats aren’t full then money is not made. If money is not made, then the team needs to go somewhere where money will be made. Back in 2000-2003 there were “fans” when the Kings were winning and business was good, but now in 2012 the Arena is consistently 50% full and that’s because the Kings lose often and the fans are not TRUE FANS. Go to Jacksonville, or Philly, or Seattle where their teams lose ALL THE TIME – the arenas still sell out because those are true fans who stand by their teams through thick n’ thin. Sacramento doesn’t care about the team, does not attend the games and then has the audacity to complain when the Kings get ready to go to a real city. That’s a just pathetic as is Sacramento and the mediocre lifestyles people live there. Sacramento is already a horrible place to be and it will be even more horrible when the only thing they have to be excited about are the RiverCats or Fireside Bowling Lanes on Auburn Blvd. Oh wait no no, they also love getting “bottle service” at the Park. Yeah so high end Sacramento is (sarcasm). Buncha jokers who know nothing about sports. Also notice why 99% of Sacramento now suddenly loves the 49ers? Or why they all started sporting SF Giants gear around the world series? Posers.

By: PhilCaldwell

PhilCaldwell — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:33:52 +0000

All this bidding cities against other cities without enough teams to go around, is making the European model look better and better. In those cases, any group with an arena can declare themselves with a team, and the teams then have to qualify for league play. Only when they sign enough quality players, and only when that team demonstrates it can compete at the major league, is that team allowed into the league. Oh and btw – if the team stops performing, other upstarts can come in and take your place, very similar to how the PGA tour insures that the best golfers play the tour. It would be like it’s own NBA-style “Q School.” It would mean that the Cleveland Cavs and Washington Wizards might very well be ousted from the league, by new startup teams in Seattle, Vancouver BC, Virginia Beach, or any of another two dozen markets that could support professional basketball!

Perhaps our pals from across the pond have had this figured out for decades? Surely they must be scoffing at these nitwits in the colonies, who still haven’t figured out the best way to manage a professional sports league!

By: terrycummings1982

terrycummings1982 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 01:51:20 +0000

Bruski’s also been one of Seattle’s biggest supporters from what I’ve read.

By: terrycummings1982

terrycummings1982 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 01:46:40 +0000

Seattle contributed around $75 million in 1994 to help renovate KeyArena (a facility which the city owned). CenturyLink and Safeco were funded with STATE $$$. The NBA, Schultz, and later Bennett were trying to get state $$$ as well for a new facility or more renovations to Key. State didn’t want to play ball, which gave Bennett his out. So actually, the state gave $$$ for football and baseball, but said no to giving hoops any $$$.

By: captainronmexico

captainronmexico — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 01:06:42 +0000

2012-2013 DMA Rankings (nielsen.com)

20 Sacramnto-Stkton-Modesto 1,387,710
31 Kansas City 931,320

Dust in your eyes?

By: PhilCaldwell

PhilCaldwell — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 00:23:39 +0000

The true story to the Sonics arena is at this link:

http://conliber.wordpress.com/2011/05/26/okc-thunder-oklahoma-fans-enjoy-fruits-of-dirty-deeds-done-while-in-seattle/

Or this one

http://conliber.wordpress.com/2010/09/22/seattle-and-the-message-sent-by-the-nba/

By: captainronmexico

captainronmexico — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 23:19:10 +0000

Go get another 20-bag George. You’re a developer. Everything will be OK.

By: limonadamas

limonadamas — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 22:39:31 +0000

What’s the other side to the story? Are you just saying that on principle? The Maloofs have been exposed over and over again as being disingenuous, at best.

Unless you have insider information to add, merely stating “there are two sides to a story” doesn’t add anything but noise to the situation.

By: erpskaderp

erpskaderp — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 22:30:55 +0000

WRONG WRONG WRONG! About the Seattle stadiums situation, this author does not have his facts straight.

Seattle gave the Sonics a NEW arena YEARS before the M’s or Seahawks. KeyArena was remodeled from the original Seattle Center Coliseum and opened in 1995 to the EXACT specifications of the then-Sonics owner and the NBA. Safeco Field opened in 1999, and Qwest/CenturyLink Field in 2002. The Sonics got their free public money FIRST. To say they didn’t is not correct, and is a fallacy that Sonics haters like to spout, that “Seattle didn’t care” when in fact Seattle’s love for the Sonics was so great they made sure they were taken care of first. When it opened, David Stern at the first game said it was a fantastic facility and one of the best in the league (and we all know how that turned in a short period of time).

Please fix your article. You even site the documentary “SonicsGate” but you obviously never bothered to watch it. Nice research.

By: losinginterestinsportsfan

losinginterestinsportsfan — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 19:00:54 +0000

Well written article with clarity regarding the deteriorating situation that is unlikely to end well except for the initial few years after relocation for their new “hometown” fans. While some may cite a bias, experiencing deception and betrayal from the Maloof boys is and has been a poor reflection on the management of the NBA as a whole.

By: terrycummings1982

terrycummings1982 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 19:00:11 +0000

Bruski’s a Kings fan? I follow him on Twitter as well and have seen him tweet several times in regards to “his” Warriors, so that’s news to me. He tears the Kings organization apart constantly, rips Keith Smart to the point where you’d think he should be coaching 6th grade intramural basketball, and uses the team as the butt of pretty much all his jokes.

For what it’s worth, I hope Sac gets to keep the Kings. A team in Virginia Beach is about as laughable as a grown man wearing a Pelican jersey…

By: wpayback

wpayback — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:41:34 +0000

This really is a good write. However if you listen to Grant Napier (Kings mouthpiece) he would tell you
that this article is all “BS”. I am not one, but Kings fans have given their hearts and souls to this team
and they deserve better. Geoege Maloofs hides out like a roach at night and don’t have the guts to clear up any confusion.

By: helinhater

helinhater — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:15:12 +0000

My only complaint about this write up is that for those familiar with Aaron Bruski on twitter or elsewhere understand he’s a Sacramento Kings fan…which sort of calls into question his bias in regard to this situation.

There are two sides to the story. It’s great for Bruski to defend the Kings fanbase. But on the other hand, he’s not exactly playing the role of fair & balanced. He has a vested interest in the outcome.

By: dustbowltsunami

dustbowltsunami — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 16:52:27 +0000

Seems like the perfect spot for the Kings would be Kansas City. One, contrary to the statements above, it’s got more eyeballs and disposable income than Sacramento. It’s one of the top media markets without the NBA. Two, it’s already arena-ready with the Sprint Center which has been ranked as one of the 20 busiest arenas worldwide, reinforcing the fact that there’s disposable income in KC. Third, the Kings already have a history in the city since that’s where they called home before the move to Sacramento in 1985. There’s more corporate support in KC than there was in 1985 with the growth of local employers like Sprint, Garmin, Cerner. So why not KC?

By: adoombray

adoombray — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:22:38 +0000

Wow, I don’t think I’ve ever seen this author on this site before, but I want to see that name alot more. The subject is a little beaten to death, but this was an outstanding analysis and some of the best I’ve seen on the Kings thing. Post here more plz

By: thesixersbench

thesixersbench — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 14:22:41 +0000

Excellent write up. Well done. Hope to see more coverage of this caliber.