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Just 13 points away, Kobe should become youngest to 30,000 Wednesday

Dec 5, 2012, 11:44 AM EDT

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Wednesday night in New Orleans, before the Lakers game becomes about hack-a-Dwight, Kobe Bryant will reach a milestone:

With 13 more points, Kobe will become the youngest player in NBA history to 30,000 points. Wilt Chamberlain was 35 years old and 179 days, 10 days faster than Karl Malone did it. Kobe is 34.

Kobe’s detractors can and will diminish this — Michael Jordan did it in 7,000 fewer minutes, if you’re looking for a line of attack — but the accomplishment is still of note. There are just four players who have ever reached this milestone (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Malone, Jordan and Chamberlain). If you add in his ABA years, “Dr. J” Julius Erving makes the list, too. That is top shelf company.

It helped that Kobe started in the NBA at age 18 and has played significant minutes his entire career. But Kobe has shaped his legacy with his work ethic, his drive and his dedication to craft and conditioning. That drive has been both his greatest strength and weakness at different times. That is what makes Kobe so fascinating. But it is what defines him.

Kobe’s ultimate legacy will be interesting to see unfold because Bryant spent his career in the shadow of Jordan — Kobe never got the chance to just be Kobe. Jordan’s shadow used to really bother Kobe, and still does to a degree (why do you think he wants the sixth ring so badly?), but he has carved out his own place.

He will go down as one of the games great legends, one of the games great competitors. One of the greatest scorers ever. A guy who is fearless to a fault. And nobody can deny him that.

  1. tujefablows - Dec 5, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    The second best just behind Jordan… but not for long. Laker haters……..You may comment now.

  2. lakerchuy - Dec 5, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    Kobe hates being compared to Jordan no more than Jordan hates it. Different league, different times. Jordan did it in less time, well yea but Kobe has done it for longer. Jordan Jockers get over it, and go buy another pair of Jordans newest HIDEOUS shoe. Kobe is rightfully in a league of his own.

    • jt1138 - Dec 5, 2012 at 1:11 PM

      Are you high? All Kobe has ever liked is being compared to Jordan. Kobe has only wanted to be/be better than Jordan.

      • cosanostra71 - Dec 5, 2012 at 2:04 PM

        Well, if Kobe sees Jordan as the best, then he’s aiming to beat the best. Isn’t that what you’re supposed to do? Be the best?

    • camnellum12 - Dec 5, 2012 at 2:04 PM

      I know, one of the bad effects of Michael Jordan being the star of the league in the 90’s is that now there’s this “standard” of how to be an NBA player, it’s like these players are stuck in this manufactured image of what they have to be, it’s a reason why Tim Duncan is so underrated. Jordan Jockers can’t let go of MJ like Republicans can’t let go of Ronald Reagan…..

    • cpaulii - Dec 5, 2012 at 2:46 PM

      you forgot to add that Kobe came off the bench for the first 1 1/2 years of his career with the Lakers, and he is the only current star That played against Jordan. Those were great games. Youtube Jordan vs Kobe and see the best offensive players.

      first game Kobe vs MJ 1997 , MJ 36 Kobe 33 off the bench.
      Kobe Dunks on Michael in his 1st Real Game Against Michael Jordan… In Limited Minutes, He Shows MJ who’s coming for his spot.


      Jordan Scores 29 and even though Kobe came off the Bench with Limited Minutes, He still drops 20. Lakers win by 25.

      • cpaulii - Dec 5, 2012 at 2:54 PM

        Kobe & MJ at ALLSTAR Game 98 in NYC

      • cpaulii - Dec 5, 2012 at 3:01 PM

        Kobe Bryant 42 points at half vs Jordan (55 total) 2002-03
        Destroys Michael Jordan’s Wizards in Jordan’s last return to Staples. (Michael was not the same by this time, father time won)

  3. abchome - Dec 5, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    Hopefully he will stop taking over the offense after getting that 30000 points…

    • aboogy123456 - Dec 5, 2012 at 12:17 PM

      Yea… Hopefully for the rest of the league.

      • abchome - Dec 5, 2012 at 1:47 PM

        Perhaps you aren’t aware of, the Lakers were 1-6 when Kobe scored 30 or more points this season. The problem is when he dominates the offense, he slacks off in defense.

      • cosanostra71 - Dec 5, 2012 at 2:06 PM

        I disagree that that is the problem. The problem is more that the Lakers get stuck in isos, and there is no ball movement.

      • aboogy123456 - Dec 5, 2012 at 2:20 PM

        How do you know that Kobe scoring a ton of points is the reason they lose games as opposed to the Lakers losing in games a reason that kobe has to score more points?

      • aboogy123456 - Dec 5, 2012 at 2:35 PM

        people read stats about kobe losing more games when he scores more and don’t understand them, specifically when kobe scores more then they lose.

        Kobe wants to win. He wants his team to play better so they can be good for the long run. In games where they are winning, Kobe doesnt want or NEED to score as much. In games where they are losing, you think he’s not gonna fight to win? Most games where they lose it’s because guys aren’t picking up the slack, and kobe can always score no matter waht. In those games he likely scores more but it’s a result of the game and not the other way around.

      • borderline1988 - Dec 5, 2012 at 6:52 PM

        The only way to know is to look at other players.
        How do the Heat do when Lebron scores 30 or more? Rockers when Harden scores 30+? Deron Williams? Chris Paul? Nowitzki? Rose?

        I have a feeling that you will see a pattern develop. When a guy who shoots efficiently scores a ton of points, his team is more likely to win….It’s not rocket science.

        And yes, when Kobe ball-hogs, the Lakers do worse than normal. Kobe is a tremendous player but the Lakers are not a championship team when Kobe is running isos for himself all game long.

      • abchome - Dec 5, 2012 at 7:59 PM

        @aboogy123456

        It doesn’t matter whether it’s Kobe’s forcing shots led to the Lakers’ losing or the Lakers’ losing led to Kobe’s forcing shots. What matter is that when Kobe forces shots the Lakers lost.

        Instead of exhausting yourself playing 1 on 5 on offense, share the offensive work load with your teammates and save some energy to play defense. Arron Affalo wouldn’t score a season high 30 points if Kobe put some resistance in the perimeter. Toney Douglas wouldn’t get an wide open 3 if Kobe got back on defense after his missed shot.

  4. tujefablows - Dec 5, 2012 at 12:13 PM

    I’m sure in the next 10 years or more everyone will be comparing some talented young players coming out of High School/College to Kobe just like we compare everyone to Jordan nowadays. Keep hating trolls but its the truth.

  5. aboogy123456 - Dec 5, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    G.O.A.T.

  6. gatordontplay - Dec 5, 2012 at 12:17 PM

    Will be his biggest achievement since that night in Denver Colorado

  7. isujames - Dec 5, 2012 at 12:27 PM

    Kobe’s name shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same sentence as jordan.MJ dominated the game during a time when there were legitimate centers and better guards.

    • tujefablows - Dec 5, 2012 at 1:20 PM

      Good argument buddy. You should probably stop watching Sportcenter so much and watch an NBA game for once.

    • cosanostra71 - Dec 5, 2012 at 1:58 PM

      clearly you didn’t watch much basketball in the 90s…

    • teedraper - Dec 5, 2012 at 10:30 PM

      LOL! What kind of crack do you smoke?

      Jordan dominated the weakest era of basketball since the 60’s. he cane into the league in what 84-85? He won absolutely NOTHING & was humiliated out of the playoffs.

      Lets quit the Jordan worship already fella. Jordan didn’t win anything until Magic, Bird, & Zeke Thomas got old.

      Do you fools think Jordan would dominate the NBA today like he did in the 90’s? LOL! If you think that then I have some ocean front property in the Sahara desert to sell you.

      Jordan is not the GOAT! Sick of this foolishness. Fools drunk off Gatorade & overdosed on Nike’s!

    • teedraper - Dec 5, 2012 at 10:31 PM

      LOL! What kind of crack do you smoke?

      Jordan dominated the weakest era of basketball since the 60’s. he cane into the league in what 84-85? He won absolutely NOTHING in the 80’s & was humiliated out of the playoffs.

      Lets quit the Jordan worship already fella. Jordan didn’t win anything until Magic, Bird, & Zeke Thomas got old.

      Do you fools think Jordan would dominate the NBA today like he did in the 90’s? LOL! If you think that then I have some ocean front property in the Sahara desert to sell you.

      Jordan is not the GOAT! Sick of this foolishness. Fools drunk off Gatorade & overdosed on Nike’s!

  8. isujames - Dec 5, 2012 at 12:30 PM

    Jordan would get 30+ points and the bulls would win, kobe is the exact opposite.

    • tujefablows - Dec 5, 2012 at 1:17 PM

      I guess that’s why Kobe has no rings…..right?

    • teedraper - Dec 5, 2012 at 10:32 PM

      Yeah bc Jordan won a title every year in the league.

  9. paulhargis53 - Dec 5, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    Kobe isn’t even the greatest laker of all time, let alone the GOAT. He’s about 4th on the list, 5th if you count Wilt.
    Yes Jordan did it in 1.75 seasons faster.
    Jordan also sat out 1.5 years.

    Kobe wants to play long enough to outscore Jordan. Which is pitiful in its own right. Why can’t the guy just be happy being himself? Jordan doesn’t sit out that time, Kobe has a hard time catching him.

    Chasing points total and rings, even if he surpasses points and ties rings, he will never be better than Jordan.
    Again, Jordan doesn’t quit, Bulls would tie the Celtics with 8 straight.

    • lakerdownunder - Dec 5, 2012 at 11:42 PM

      See I knew you could do it! Well done @paulhargis53, a solid, intelligent comment about the topic. You made some really good points. And you managed to contribute without denigrating anyone.

      Nice work.

  10. omniusprime - Dec 5, 2012 at 1:13 PM

    Who cares if Kobe breaks into the 30,000 point club tonight if the Lakers lose yet another game? The problem now is that Kobe scores too much, he has been stuck with two of the most ignorant coaches in NBA history who are too clueless about offense that all they do is tell Kobe to shoot lights out. When Kobe is high up on the scoring leader chart the Lakers don’t have 60+ win seasons and championships.

    I hope Kobe isn’t the Laker’s high scorer tonight, if he is chances are the Lakers lose. I hope the Laker team gets it’s act together tonight and wins the ballgame, even if Kobe scores less than 13.

    Go Kobe!!! Go Lakers!!! Go Away Dumbtoni!!!

    • davidly - Dec 5, 2012 at 1:47 PM

      Just which two coaches have told Bryant to shoot lights out?

      • cosanostra71 - Dec 5, 2012 at 1:59 PM

        Mike Brown and Mike D’Antoni?

    • davidly - Dec 5, 2012 at 2:11 PM

      @cosanostra71:
      I figured that’s who was being alluded to and meant it rhetorically. I guess a good follow-up would be: Just when did they do that?

    • Mr. Wright 212 - Dec 5, 2012 at 3:13 PM

      I warned you guys when we were cheering that he quit and left my guys earlier this year. Now we’re back in the top 5-7 in defense since Woodson took over.

  11. BigBeachBall - Dec 5, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    30k

    -mamba out

  12. mungman69 - Dec 5, 2012 at 1:34 PM

    Let’s all practice our foul shot.

  13. ebrownwareagle - Dec 5, 2012 at 1:50 PM

    Question for the people. So because one would say, “He’s not Jordan or not in the same league” does that mean nothing he did or accomplished was relevant, didn’t happen or wasn’t great in its own right?

    • cosanostra71 - Dec 5, 2012 at 2:03 PM

      Best comment on this post. Couldn’t agree more. You can’t argue with results, and Kobe has those in excess. He has 30,000 points (including an 81 point game), an MVP trophy, he’s played a leading role on 5 championship teams, winning the Finals MVP as THE leader twice, he’s been a part of 2 more conference championship teams… truly one of the best players of all time. Who cares if he “isn’t Jordan or not even in the same league”? Why can’t you enjoy him for what he is, and realize we are watching one of the best players of all time?

  14. jordanismyidol - Dec 5, 2012 at 3:11 PM

    Who cares?!

  15. dko83 - Dec 5, 2012 at 4:00 PM

    Keep taking 30+ shots my man. Love the results that come from that.

  16. fruitcovejag - Dec 5, 2012 at 6:22 PM

    His scoring average is going to be dropping fast… he added about 265 pounds in the offseason. That back is sore (not to mention the knees)!

  17. londonps - Dec 5, 2012 at 6:28 PM

    It doesn’t even matter with no more high school jumps lebron is gonna own this “record” and it will likely never be broken

    • jjordannba - Dec 5, 2012 at 7:08 PM

      Lebron wont own this record, he doesn’t score at the rate Kobe Bryant does, now KD one day he may own the record

      • dedalus13 - Dec 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM

        Hmmmm…. LBJ has a better career scoring average than Kobe, will turn 28 in a few weeks, and will likely reach the 20’000 points plateau before the all-star game… he will thus have 6 full years to score those remaining 10k and own the record (until KD…if if if …)

        That’s about 1700 points a season, which is what he scored during his rookie year, and last year in the lock-out shortened season. Even if he doesn’t have to score as much as in Cleveland, I don’t see him dropping under 20 ppg so fast… So IF he stays healthy and IF he continues to put the ball in the hole consistently over 2000 points a season, he should not only be able to break that record but to improve it by about one year.

  18. teedraper - Dec 5, 2012 at 8:29 PM

    Kobe’s detractors can and will diminish this — Michael Jordan did it in 7,000 fewer minutes
    ——————————-

    Child please! We see you HELIN! You Laker hating Fluffer! Even when Kobe has a great accomplishment he’s about to surpass you still come with the fakery!

    Listen..Michael Jordan is not the greatest of all time. Never was & never will be. His era is is like the steroid era in baseball….he was great but not without the aid if of David stern, the referees, Gatorade & Nike!

    Oh yeah…Derek Fisher is in the NBA! But but but but nothing…shut up Helin.

    • Kurt Helin - Dec 7, 2012 at 1:17 AM

      I love it when people call me a Laker hater.

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