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Report: Stoudemire willing to come off bench for Knicks

Nov 29, 2012, 7:59 AM EDT

Amare Stoudemire, Carmelo Anthony AP

The New York Knicks have the best offense in the NBA right now, scoring 111.5 points per 100 possessions — they are shooting the ball well and turning it over on fewer possessions than any other team in the Association.

And they are doing it all with Carmelo Anthony playing the four. The power forward spot. What had been Amare Stoudemire’s spot.

So what happens when Stoudemire returns in December from knee surgery and pushes ‘Melo out to the wing again? One idea — one coach Mike Woodson doesn’t seem to like — is to bring Stoudemire off the bench. And he is good with that, reports

“All he cares about right now is helping the team and winning,” said one source, who has been around Stoudemire regularly in recent weeks. “He’d be fine with coming off the bench if that’s what they want….

“He just wants to win,” the source says. “He sees how well they’re playing and just wants to help. He’ll be fine with whatever they want to do.”

My guess is that Woodson will eventually bend to this logic and will bring Stoudemire off the bench.

But this really doesn’t solve the problem — Anthony and Stoudemire are going to have to share the court at some point. The Spurs had success bringing Manu Ginobili off the bench but come the fourth quarter Ginobili was out there on the court with Tim Duncan and Tony Parker.

If the Knicks are going to be true title contenders they have to find a way to play well when Stoudemire, Anthony and Tyson Chandler are all on the court together. Bringing Stoudemire off the bench is a way to avoid dealing with the problem in the first quarter, but the fourth quarter question is still there. And still has to be answered.

  1. packersareandwillalwaysbebetterthanthebears - Nov 29, 2012 at 8:21 AM

    I’m still so surprised there has been almost no speculation on Amare being on the trading block.. if there not that much of a better team with him, his value will be more important elsewhere

    • mr9teen - Nov 29, 2012 at 9:23 AM

      He will have to play in order to get some trade value. Also he is making a pretty hefty salary for the next couple of years. Who is willing to go into Lux Tax for him that doesn’t rhyme with Six?

      • zerole00 - Nov 29, 2012 at 9:55 AM

        The problem is his numbers haven’t exactly been impressive given his salary, of course the Nets traded for Joe Johnson so who knows…

      • eventhorizon04 - Nov 29, 2012 at 1:33 PM

        Amar’e is an under-producing player who is a HUGE injury risk (as him currently missing games proves) who is massively overpaid.

        Joe Johnson had good production (at least in the regular season) and wasn’t an injury risk, he was just overpaid.

        Trading Amar’e is much more difficult than trading Joe Johnson, and trading Joe Johnson was very difficult.

    • saint1997 - Nov 30, 2012 at 3:31 PM

      I disagree with your last sentence. The Knicks cannot win a championship without a big 3. They need STAT and he can still perform after what he has done with Hakeem and when he is not injured. Melo has played at the 3 the last two games and still performed well, this can happen

  2. metalhead65 - Nov 29, 2012 at 8:29 AM

    what a novel concept, being willing to do what the coach and team tell you to do but hey glad to hear he is ok with doing it. that tells you all you need to know what is wrong basketball and pro sports in general. just shut up collect your millions and do what you are told!

  3. eflem80 - Nov 29, 2012 at 8:55 AM

    There’re gonna trade him to the lakers straight up for Pau…..their bad fits for both teams bc of the other players on the teams that are considered more important (Keeping Howard in L.A. & keeping Melo happy in N.Y.) & because of their coaches. In D’Antoni mind the Suns should have won the title a couple times….with Amare…it’s practically those suns teams with Howard & Kobe on it. Meanwhile, Woodson would love to have a true post player who can actually compliment Melo…not take away from what he can give to the team.

    • mr9teen - Nov 29, 2012 at 9:29 AM

      Not gonna happen. They will go deep into the luxury tax obtaining Amar’e. I like how everyone says that Amar’e can’t compliment Melo WITHOUT seeing them together THIS year. I am optimistic that Amar’e’s time with Olajuwan will be a great benefit to his game.

    • jedifriedchicken - Nov 29, 2012 at 1:09 PM

      You must be. Knicks fan. If you like, we could also trade you Kobe Bryant for Wilson Chandler…

    • eventhorizon04 - Nov 29, 2012 at 1:34 PM

      Lol, Pau Gasol is a cheaper player, a healthier player, and overall a better player than Amar’e.

      Lakers’ issue is floor spacing right now on offense. Amar’e isn’t an upgrade from Pau Gasol when it comes to shooting jumpers.

      • Mr. Wright 212 - Nov 29, 2012 at 2:05 PM

        Gasol makes the same money as Stoudemire. Just one less season.

      • Mr. Wright 212 - Nov 29, 2012 at 2:06 PM

        However Stoudemire IS an upgrade when it comes to tenacity and finishing. Gasol’s axe-to-the-knee screams while blowing LAYUPS, not dunks, certainly isn’t better.

        Mind you, I support my hometown Knicks and like the Lakers.

      • mytthor - Nov 29, 2012 at 10:04 PM

        But Gasol is a better rebounder and defender. For all the talk about Gasol being “soft,” He defended the best center in the game well enough to win a title in 2008, and Amare is the INSANELY athletic big man who’s never averaged double digit rebounds and only once over 2 blocks.

      • money2long - Nov 30, 2012 at 11:15 AM

        2 blocks isn’t easy for anyone in the nba

  4. mr9teen - Nov 29, 2012 at 9:21 AM

    I don’t get why this is such a issue. Who says they can’t co exist? Both players have retooled their games (to a degree) this off season. I believe that with Melo’s new team commitment and Amar’e working on devoloping a post games in the summer that they will be a formidable 1-2 punch. Personally I have never been enamored with the bulk of your scoring coming from 2 positions so close together, however this is the team that we have. I can’t wait until Amar’e comes back so I don’t have to listen to this conversation.

    • LPad - Nov 29, 2012 at 9:43 AM

      It’s really just media generated nonsense. They also said that Rudy Gay and Randolph couldn’t play together in Memphis and they seem to be doing fine. And they ignore that the offense Melo is thriving in under Woodson (which incorporates motion, pick n roll, high-low, postups, and midrange isos) was designed around both players is vastly different than D’Antoni high pick n roll offense.

  5. edwardemanuelson - Nov 29, 2012 at 9:21 AM

    When are coaches, front office people, fans, media members, etc, going to stop denying the real problem that’s staring these/these teams on the face? It’s not the talent you have or the way you use it or who starts or who comes off the bench that’s the problem.

    It is the PEOPLE and their personalities. The reason the Spurs have been able to win 4 titles in the Duncan/Pop era is because their teams have little to no ego. They have players who will honestly and truly accept a bench role and truly be ok with it. Titles have been won with Ginobili both as a starter and sub. Check the Bird’s Celtics of the 80s. They won titles with McHale as a starter and sub. The Showtime Lakers did, as well. Did you ever hear about people complaining about minutes on those teams? Any chemistry issues? Nope. Seems to be all we hear about with Melo and Amare.

    Honestly ask yourself, do anyone truly think Amare likes seeing this team succeed without him? Do you really think he is ok coming off the bench? Or will he do it for a few games and them complain the first time he sits during a close game?


    • mr9teen - Nov 29, 2012 at 9:34 AM

      WTF are you talking about!?!? Have you ever heard Amar’e make any noise about playing time since he has been on the Knicks? You obviously don’t watch Knicks basketball or follow the team except for what you read on here. He has don’t nothing but try to rally the team together. He has been upset publicly about one thing and one thing only, losing. He doesn’t like to lose. He has sacrificed his game to win on this team. Before you start spouting off about what you don’t know get an education.

      All this speculation is done without the benefit of getting an answer from the players. We don’t know what they are going to be like because we have not seen them play together. They have retooled their games so when they step on the floor together it will reveal itself.

      • edwardemanuelson - Nov 29, 2012 at 10:09 AM

        How can I not watch Knicks bball? They’re on national TV any chance the networks get. And for the record (not like it matters to anyone), but I am a League Pass subscriber.

        Its the 3rd season together for these two, and there’s still chemistry talk? Hmm… doesn’t quite pass the smell test. We’ll see if all of this supposed ‘game changing’ really makes a difference. I hope it does, but I’m not holding my breath.

        And doesn’t like to lose? Sure, that’s why when he chose a great team like the Knicks in the summer of 2010 to sign with, right? And didn’t tale less money to play for a true contendor? Whatever get you through the night.

    • LPad - Nov 29, 2012 at 9:47 AM

      maybe its the coaching. unless you really believe that Mike “i rather quit than play two bigs at the same time even if one is Shaq” D’Antoni was the right coach for the job. Heck if he was in SA David Robinson would of been traded in Duncan’s rookie year.

  6. LPad - Nov 29, 2012 at 9:39 AM

    Knicks were 8-2 last year under Woodson with both Amare and Melo in the lineup. Amare may come off the bench as he knocks the rust off but he’ll be starting by the end of the year. I also don’t think Woodson giving this much thought since Amare’s still a couple of weeks a way at best from coming back.

  7. yousuxxors - Nov 29, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    I know it was only 10 games … But they played great together last season when woodson started and they were 8-2. I think he will make it work.

  8. phx1311 - Nov 29, 2012 at 10:45 AM

    He has 100million reasons why he wouldn’t mind.

  9. cantonbound13 - Nov 29, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Amare has been the ultimate team player. I don’t understand the criticism he takes. Prior to Melo getting here, Amare was dominating and an MVP candidate. Unfortunately, in the trade for Melo (not saying it was a bad idea to get Melo) the Knicks gave up half their team & most importantly Raymond Felton. Amare didn’t have a true point guard to get him the ball & the team didn’t have time to gel due to injuries. I don’t even consider time under D’Antoni relevant because he hardly coached the team. Under Woodson, last season, Amare & Melo managed to go 10-2. Not bad. I don’t understand all the nonsense about them not being able to coexist on the court together. They’ll be just fine together & adding Shupert also should make them a serious contender. Arrogant Heat fans & Kurt, the hater, just like to make up negative stories about the Knicks.

  10. namaths5thofwhiskey - Nov 29, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    Who wouldnt? Amare is in the best situation possible. Gets paid big bucks and can stay relatively fresh throughout the season with less minutes and less wear on his body. Success!

  11. Mr. Wright 212 - Nov 29, 2012 at 2:03 PM

    People are running this angle into the ground. The Knicks’ ball movement (when Kidd returns) helps all that. The only reason it wasn’t leading to effective offensive possessions (but a 7-1 record under Woodson with both guys healthy???) was the ball was stopping in the halfcourt. When the Knicks are playing their game this season, that’s not happening. It doesn’t matter who’s on the court.

  12. Mr. Wright 212 - Nov 29, 2012 at 2:03 PM

    And Felton and Stoudemire were both great in the pick and roll when Felt was here before. This story, each 997 of them, is overblown.

  13. dysraw1 - Nov 29, 2012 at 6:12 PM

    listen anybody that knows anything at all about basketball, would not give this column 2 thoughts. so how about reporting something relative to readers, by the way that Pablo Prigione, [ i call him the double p] does real good job running team. really impressive stuff

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