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Lakers not actively trying to trade Pau Gasol. Not yet, anyway.

Nov 27, 2012, 11:42 AM EST

Los Angeles Lakers players Jordan Hill, Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum sit on the bench shortly before their defeat by the Denver Nuggets in Denver Reuters

Can you have a Lakers season where a chunk of their fans don’t want to trade Pau Gasol?

It hasn’t happened yet, but for the first time since Gasol came to Los Angeles from Memphis and was central to them winning two NBA titles, there may be some validity to the talk.

Gasol is struggling to find his niche in Mike D’Antoni’s offense — he had 13 points on seven shot attempts in the win over Dallas, but had six and eight points in the two losses before that. He was benched in the fourth quarter of the loss to the Grizzlies. Gasol wants more touches in the post. D’Antoni’s offense is not really designed for two big men (it isn’t really designed for one traditional post player) and Gasol feels like the odd man out.

That has led some around the league to think Gasol will go on the market, but it hasn’t happened yet reports the Los Angeles Times.

The Lakers aren’t actively looking to trade Gasol right now, The Times has learned, because they want to see what happens when Nash returns from a small fracture in his leg.

After that, there are two important dates: Dec. 15 is when teams can deal players they signed during the off-season, opening up about 20% more of the NBA’s player pool; and Feb. 21, the league’s trade deadline.

Gasol’s passing skills, midrange jump shots and fluid moves in the post made him a natural fit in Phil Jackson’s triangle. While some of the less savvy Lakers fans decided Gasol was soft and wouldn’t let the label go (even after he outplayed Dwight Howard in the post in the 2010 NBA finals) the team saw his value.

But in the current Lakers offense, what is valued more is outside shooting and the Lakers don’t have it. Obviously the Lakers are not going to trade Kobe Bryant (too valuable to the franchise and too good a player), Steve Nash isn’t going anywhere because he is the lynchpin to the D’Antoni offense, and Dwight Howard is the future (if the Lakers can re-sign him as expected).

Which makes Gasol ripe for trade speculation. And there would be a market for him, there just are not other skilled big men like him around.

But he is making $19 million this season and $19.3 million next season — there are not a lot of teams willing to take that on, and none really willing to give equal value back. The Lakers may take less value if it includes outside shooters, but there likely will have to be a bad contract in there to balance it out.

It’s not happening yet. It may not be happening for a while (we don’t even have a return date for Nash to the Lakers yet), but know the Gasol trade speculation and rumors will be back with a vengeance this season.

  1. socalgal64 - Nov 27, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    News to me that the Lakers played the Magic in the 2010 Finals. Probably news to the Celtics too.
    “(even after he outplayed Dwight Howard in the post in the 2010 NBA finals)”

  2. echech88 - Nov 27, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    This feels inevitable.

    Given how horrible their bench is, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Gasol involved in some kind of 3 team trade that netted the Lakers 2 or 3 guys that fit the system better and can carry the bench.

    • aboogy123456 - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:22 PM

      Their bench lineup is

      Morris / Blake
      Meeks
      Jamison
      Jordan Hill
      Dwight Howard

      I know it’s not the best bench in the nba, but do you really think it’s worth giving up an all star big man as good as Gasol so you can improve the bench? And where do you suggest that it would be worth improving?

      • manchestermiracle - Nov 27, 2012 at 5:17 PM

        Last time I looked Howard was the starting center.

  3. dcipher80 - Nov 27, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    He’d be a perfect fit in Houston next to Asik. Trade Patterson and Cook if they want shooter. We can take on the salary and that’d make Houston a shoe in playoff team (probably a top 6 Western Conference team)

    • thebigcaptain2011 - Nov 27, 2012 at 12:17 PM

      I was thinking the same thing. Trade him to Houston. We’ll take him. Gasol for Patterson, Cook, Royce White (ya’ll can have him and good luck), maybe one of our back-up PGs (even though I would hate to part with Toney Douglas given that he has taken Lin’s minutes in crunch time) and a couple of spare draft picks. MAKE IT HAPPEN MOREY!

      • parlett316 - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:11 PM

        No, no, no, a thousand times no. No Gasol to Houston.

        No.

  4. cmonkurt - Nov 27, 2012 at 12:09 PM

    Here come the Minnesota trade rumors once again.

  5. lakerluver - Nov 27, 2012 at 12:14 PM

    If the LAKERS really want to explore trading Pau they can wait until the Feb. deadline. No need to rush. If healthy, by then the LAKESHOW should be kickin arse and takin names.
    #deadman walking

  6. paulhargis53 - Nov 27, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    In the meantime, lakerluver will be licking male arse and not asking for names…

    • jrose606 - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:09 PM

      seriously man how homophobic are you?

      • bozosforall - Nov 27, 2012 at 11:05 PM

        Pudhummer isn’t homophobic…just a homo. Nothing wrong with that.

  7. barroomhero80 - Nov 27, 2012 at 12:29 PM

    I see what u think your thinking about @paulhargis53

  8. dodiphy - Nov 27, 2012 at 12:30 PM

    Pau Gasol for Carlos Boozer and Rip Hamilton…

  9. aboogy123456 - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:16 PM

    I’m glad Mitch Kupchak isn’t as dumb as many of the fans who even think about trading gasol. He’s a great player, the offense needs to work him in more so they can win, and I think it will happen. He looked very good in the lakers blowout, but they didn’t need him so his numbers weren’t that great. Trade Gasol for patterson and some rockets bench players??? Are you kidding? Kobe, Gasol, and Howard is probably the best combination of three players in the nba, why break that up because D’antoni likes shooters? And offense aside, Gasol is still a very good defender which is what they need.

    • thebigcaptain2011 - Nov 27, 2012 at 2:19 PM

      You answered your own question. He doesn’t fit the system. Unless you want to fire this guy after 9 games as well the Lakers brass may want to consider having players that, you know, can play the style of system D’ Antoni runs. If not, enjoy getting swept out of the second round again.

    • bougin89 - Nov 27, 2012 at 2:47 PM

      Well, Mitch did trade Gasol. It was rejected by Dictator Stern. I am of the opinion that they should keep Gasol though. They are working out the kinks yet, I think he’ll be fine in this offense once they get going and especially once Nash is running the show.

      • jedifriedchicken - Nov 27, 2012 at 2:56 PM

        They attempted to trade him for Chris Paul. If the Clippers are calling, great, otherwise there’s no real reason to dump a great player for some scrubs.

      • bougin89 - Nov 28, 2012 at 4:29 PM

        @jedifriedchicken…Well yeah. Re-read my comment, I think they should keep Gasol.

  10. magicbucs - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    Who cares…. Lakers are overrated even with a healthy nash.

    Hey Kurt the lakers and magic were in the 2009 finals… Geez

    • bozosforall - Nov 27, 2012 at 11:07 PM

      Magic bung, your boyfriend Pudhummer is looking for you with a special package to deliver to you. Kinda small, butt you love it nonetheless.

  11. paulhargis53 - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:34 PM

    jrose606: I’m not homophobic in the least. I neither condemned nor supported that lifestyle.

    You, and others like you that raise a stink about my comments are the ones with the issues to deal with.

    • bozosforall - Nov 27, 2012 at 11:09 PM

      You are just a regular homo, Pudhummer…no need to be ashamed of your true nature.

  12. coryfor3 - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    Somehow the Lakers are a mess. Thanks Jim Buss!

    • lakerchuy - Nov 27, 2012 at 2:22 PM

      he is the Al David of the NBA! http://www.JIMBUSSMUSTDIE.com

      • lakerchuy - Nov 27, 2012 at 3:25 PM

        *Davis

      • lakerchuy - Nov 27, 2012 at 3:32 PM

        i wish you could see the names of the people who like or dislike posts…. what idiot actually likes Jim Buss?!?!?!?

    • jedifriedchicken - Nov 27, 2012 at 2:59 PM

      Jimmy Buss is a bum.

  13. hoodheisman - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    Gasol’s camp did the Lakers a favor by leaking the knee tendinitis. Pretty much smashes whatever trade value Gasol may have had. The Lakers are going to need both 7 footers to have a chance against the Heat in a best of 7. Even short Buss knows this.

  14. fnc111 - Nov 27, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    What a pointless article.

  15. loungefly74 - Nov 27, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    well…the Lakers have a few months to stew about this. no need to rush. and yeah, i agree with the commenters that think the lakers should wait for the right deal…if it does not happen, okay fine, no biggie.

    this season has a long way to go. heck, i want to see what Nash will do on the floor. no need to press the panic-button.

  16. lakerchuy - Nov 27, 2012 at 2:17 PM

    LAME! It is funny how people who are NOT Laker fans always talk about what Laker fans are thinking, as if they know! The majority of the fans do NOT want to trade Gasol. Although he seems to lack aggressiveness sometimes, he is an elite player that possesses skills that cannot be easily replaced. Do everyone a favor and don’t speak for a group you are not a part of Kurt.

    • 00maltliquor - Nov 27, 2012 at 4:28 PM

      THANK…YOU!!!

      • lakerchuy - Nov 28, 2012 at 12:06 AM

        Welcome!

  17. paulhargis53 - Nov 27, 2012 at 2:20 PM

    lounge: The panic button has been pushed already, what are you talking about?

    Oooh, I brought you up again and wasn’t supposed to, now what?!

    • bozosforall - Nov 27, 2012 at 11:14 PM

      Pudhummer, you really need to get a life other than your lead role as the Boston locker room’s bendover boy.

  18. omniusprime - Nov 27, 2012 at 2:54 PM

    Another ignorant article about total garbage and of course it’s written by that mental midget Kurt Helin. There’s no reason the Lakers should trade Pau Gasol, and if they do and don’t get a better power forward in return then Laker fans are going to explode on the little idiot buss boy and Kupcake. What the Lakers need most is a great small young point guard who can keep up guarding the excellent small point guards on offense.

    Trade the Little Idiot Buss Boy!!!

  19. cantonbound13 - Nov 27, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    When do the Gasol for Amare rumors start?

    • 00maltliquor - Nov 27, 2012 at 4:38 PM

      Hopefully never.

    • patfic15 - Nov 27, 2012 at 8:44 PM

      This is not as bad of a trade as you would think.

  20. teedraper - Nov 27, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    Trade Gasol for Josh Smith right now!

  21. chargerdillon - Nov 27, 2012 at 3:56 PM

    Gasol made a living on the midrange jumpshot by being able to be a big man and get in the paint, and still be an x-factor in the midrange…

    He won 2 championships being the second highest scorer on the team being able to let Bynum play deep in the paint and either switch inside to outside based on what gave him a better shot.

    Gasol no longer plays with any offensive intensity or any claim toward being the #2 scorer on the team. He does not even act like he wants to be the third or fourth option anymore.

    Have last years playoffs faded so fast that when the Lakers had the Thunder beat, Kobe passes to wide open Gasol who instead of shooting passes the ball away to Kevin Durant who does what? WHO DOES WHAT, he drives down and drains a 3 and seals the game for the Thunder.

    If Pau feels his role as a perimiter shooter is unacceptable, he should have been traded 3 years ago.

    Good players don’t play just one position, they play whatever position it takes to win, Gasol needs to go sooner rather than later.

  22. 00maltliquor - Nov 27, 2012 at 5:08 PM

    1) Get over it Kurt, it was a 5 game series vs. the Magic.
    FIVE games. We’ve had Pau for going on 5 years. He IS soft.

    2) See lakerchuy’s comment a handful of comments above.

    3) Soft or not, the combo of D12 and White Swan is too sexy of a combo to blow up. Pau means soooo much to us. He is a perfect compliment of unselfishness, skill, hieght passing, range and plays both big positions. His skill set is not easily replaced. I want him to retire a Laker. I love Pau. He CAN piss me off at times, but I still love him.

    • Kurt Helin - Nov 28, 2012 at 5:29 PM

      I live in LA, I watch a whole lot of Lakers games in person and on television. If you think Gasol is soft I don’t think you know a ton about big man play in the NBA. It’s that simple for me.

      • jimeejohnson - Nov 28, 2012 at 9:05 PM

        Gasol didn’t look soft in the London Olympics. Of course, his brother Marc is the bruiser and Pau has the soft touch. Bet teams like the Knicks and the Celtics would take Gasol. By the way: I’m not a Laker fan or hater, but the chances of them playing for a title seem slim at best. There are a lot better teams in the western division than the Lakers.

      • 00maltliquor - Nov 29, 2012 at 2:15 AM

        Whatever makes you sleep better at night, I guess.

        I know you live in LA, you said that many times before, but the only way you watch more Laker games then me is if there was an 83 game regular season that I was never aware about.

        I’m not knocking Pau. I love the guy, I don’t ever want to see him leave, but he IS soft. He sure as heck isn’t tough. I know plenty of big man play, small man play, in-between man play, whatever-u-wanna-call-it-man play. Everything. He’s got heart, but you can get in his head sometimes. He can even get bullied down low. Whenever there’s a bit of turmoil in his life, he’ll play like crap. Look at what happend when Shannon Brown was tapping his girlfriend (allegedly), or when all the trade rumors swirl around him….like now.

        Spin it all you want Kurt, I love your website, most of your work, and am a loyal follower of PBT for close to two years, but IDK how you can say that with a straight face. I know soft when I see it. Don’t lose all your credibility.

  23. stayhigh_247 - Nov 27, 2012 at 8:24 PM

    Jim Buss is just dumb enough to trade this guy. If you arent getting a Ray Allen back or 2 deep threats back whats the point?

  24. paulhargis53 - Nov 28, 2012 at 8:54 AM

    Wow bozosforall/lakerluver. I see we went through the posting archives and reformatted some of my many insults to you. You did this instead of cheering the lakers on to another loss?

    I can’t say as I blame you for copying me.
    You’re banter on here(under both names) falls well short. In copying me though, you come off as desperate. You aren’t intelligent enough to form your own thoughts, so you need to copy others.

    You’re a double loser.lakerluver posts during the day, bozosforall postings at night- like clockwork. Pathetic.

    I’d tell you that you can do better than this, but that would be a blatant lie. Sadly, you are a laughingstock under 2 names.

    Just disappear. No one will miss you. Kinda like offline. I pity you and u am embarassed for you that you continue posting. At what point do you just say enough? Most sane people would have a long time ago. Not you. Somehow, you think you’re “winning”. There are no winners here, but you’ve been outed, made to look the fool so many times, you’d think you’d leave.

    • jimeejohnson - Nov 28, 2012 at 9:08 PM

      You guys should get a room!

    • bozosforall - Nov 28, 2012 at 10:50 PM

      You are a total moron if you think that much of anything posted on the Internet is original. News flash…your comments are no more original than anyone else’s here. You really need to quit listening to your mommy’s false praise and realize tht you are a loser in life. Time for you to get out from under her skirt and enter the real world, little boy.

      And though I’m not lakerluver as you claim, I’d rather be mistaken for him than be mistaken for a pure Puh C like you any day.

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