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Knicks show their flaws, Nets get big win for franchise

Nov 26, 2012, 11:49 PM EDT

New York Knicks' Anthony controls a rebound in front of Brooklyn Nets' Wallace during their NBA basketball game in New York Reuters

Games in November don’t have a playoff atmosphere… usually. But every once in a while there is an exception.

And this was it — Brooklyn’s first home game against the Knicks may have been in November but New York fans were treating this like a hockey playoff game. There was constant chanting like a Brazilian soccer game. The fans of both teams were into it.

And they got an entertaining, playoff intensity game. They got November execution — it was sloppy at points — but some real intensity.

And Brooklyn got a 96-89 overtime win.

For the Nets, it is really is just one-of-82 on the schedule but is a nice win for the psyche of the franchise as it works to establish its foothold in the New York market.

For the Knicks, the reasons they lost this game down the stretch are trends that have emerged at points this young season, things they need to clean up as the season wears on. These things are the difference between the Knicks as threats to the Heat and the Knicks that get in the first round again.

For one, there was bad shot selection — Raymond Felton kept gunning despite a Bargnani-like 3-of-19 shooting night. He had good moments setting up Tyson Chandler on the pick-and-roll, but as the game wore on the Nets dared Felton to take the shot and he did. And he kept missing — he was 1-of-10 in the fourth quarter and overtime.

It wasn’t just him taking and missing shots late, Carmelo Anthony had a nice line of 35 points (on 11-of-25 shooting) plus 13 rebounds for the game. But he had 9 points on 2-of-9 shooting in the fourth quarter and overtime as he went with more isolation plays that led to a couple key misses. He fell back into old habits. Oh, and he missed a couple key free throws.

The real bright spot in the Knicks offense Chandler, who had 28 points and 10 rebounds, running a great pick and roll with Felton and having a signature putback dunk. But if Chandler is your offensive bright spot it’s going to be a rough night.

Still, in the second half the Knicks shot just 7-of-24 in the paint as a team.

Then there was the Knicks defense getting exposed. The Knicks switched the pick-and-roll most of the night and Deron Williams made them pay to the tune of 16 points and 14 assists. The Nets did a great job of running a Deron Williams pick and roll with Joe Johnson and Gerald Wallace, getting the switch then having those guys back down Felton and get a good look. They did that all night and made runs with it, like the 9-1 one at the end of the third quarter that got them back in it.

The other thing that killed the Knicks was losing guys who cut off the ball — all night long Nets players got good looks just by cutting away from the ball and their defender losing them. Down three inside three minutes to go the Nets got a key bucket when Brook Lopez made a run, Chandler tracked the ball and the result was an easy layup. Lopez finished with 22.

There was also some bad Knicks pick-and-roll moments and apparently Jerry Stackhouse was wearing a cloak of invisibility because the Knicks didn’t see him get open for the corner three all night long (he was 4-of-5 from three and had 14 points). There also was terrible defensive rebounding as the Nets had 18 offensive rebounds (35.5 percent of their missed shots).

The Knicks are not crisp on defense like they were last season, and if they don’t get that focus back this year’s playoffs will look like last year’s. But there is a long time between now and then.

Same with the Nets, who had a rough defensive start to the season but held the Knicks to 96.2 points per 100 possessions. They keep that up and keep scoring and the playoffs could last a while in Brooklyn.

We’re a long way from that for both teams. But the Nets got the win they wanted and both sides got some lessons to work on for the months ahead.

  1. jameschanger - Nov 27, 2012 at 12:18 AM

    Kurt you know what you can do with this article… “Turn it side ways and shove it up your candy apple Knick hatting tail..” Keeping it hating as always. When will you ever write a balance article.

  2. e39er - Nov 27, 2012 at 12:26 AM

    Evans won this game

    • Mr. Wright 212 - Nov 27, 2012 at 12:43 AM

      With all his flopping, you’re right.

  3. BigBeachBall - Nov 27, 2012 at 12:37 AM


  4. totallyuselessme - Nov 27, 2012 at 12:40 AM

    Hand it to the Nets’ big bad Russian owner.. he said he was going to put together a contender, and it looks like he was serious. They feel like a new team.

    Different story with the Knicks. They have a good record at the moment, still, but.. their ownership’s the same that put Isiah Thomas in charge and kept him floating around for ages.

    I think the Nets’ arrival is more impressive, and more permanent, than the Knicks’ current state. The Knicks just seem to find ways to screw it up every time you start to trust them.

  5. Mr. Wright 212 - Nov 27, 2012 at 12:43 AM

    Their flaws? Missing Kidd, Bam Bam and Shump? People keep forgetting that we are without Bam Bam and Shump and Kidd is money in the 4th, when we needed him tonight. I think they’ve gotten so used to watching Melo out there dominate the ball, but we are missing 35 PPG with Stoudemire and Shump, and tonight were missing 10 from Kidd.

    • badintent - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:24 AM

      Shum is the Key ! he guards the other team big guard with shutdown D. We need him back now, send him to Germany for The Kobe Knee Treatment , send bill to Dolan.

      • Mr. Wright 212 - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:32 AM

        He should be back by Christmas vs. LAL.

  6. clevelandschronic2 - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:06 AM

    Nicks blow. Nets walked into ny and instantly became better than the nicks and their team full of overhyped and underachieving players. You asked for all these max players that have major flaws like stat being injury prone or melo not ever playing defense or hogging the ball.

    • badintent - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:29 AM

      So bitter. Cheer up, your Browns had the Steelers get food poisoning in the locker room before the game and threw up all over the field all game.Homeland Security has put you on the No Fly List to NYC. Happy now ?

    • Iraelite - Nov 27, 2012 at 6:31 AM

      Yeah Nets are better at flopping… Nice win 4 Brooklyn – really. But U say Melo doesn’t play defense? You must be watching last year’s games. Melo is having an MVP season so far – playing both ends of the floor. I just hope Miami gets bounced in the 2d round and we see Knicks vs Nets in the Conference Finals – that would be fun,

      • hehateme2 - Nov 27, 2012 at 10:09 AM

        The Heat “bounced” in the 2nd round?? That’s rich coming from a pretender.

  7. clevelandschronic2 - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:08 AM

    You got what you all asked for. So enjoy being a 6-7 seed and one n done in the playoffs. Lmao losers

  8. lakerluver - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:37 AM

    I don’t care what no one says, Ray Felton still looks fat to me.

  9. clevelandschronic2 - Nov 27, 2012 at 1:58 AM

    So bitter lol not really jus tired of reading about how great the knicks are or the lakers when in reality they are nothin but trash as a team. Jus a bunch of overpaid prima donnas or overhyped and extremely flawed players. Write about some of the teams that arent stupid enough to hand out all these max deals to players that eventually hand cuff them with these ridiculous contracts. Noo because Ny or LA are big that must mean the rest of the world gives 2 sh**s about them!!!! Lmfao sorry to break it to you dull people not everyone cares about these S**T teams!!!

    • phaden27 - Nov 27, 2012 at 10:14 AM

      Two large posts filled with more spelling errors than original thoughts and purely off your emotions of the moment.
      I dunno bro, you seem kinda bitter to me.

    • badintent - Nov 27, 2012 at 5:23 PM

      Recycled old Heat hate from 2 years ago when Heat deals didn’t bring home the ring.
      What’s the name of that guy that split Ohio for Miami ? He has a nice new TV commercial with his family with Samsung phones.oh, yeah, LBJ.

  10. ebrownwareagle - Nov 27, 2012 at 6:44 AM


    EVERYONE, say it with Me! CLEVELAND, REALLY! No one wants to be in that TRASH A$$ CItY! Not Even the States Native Son LBJ!

    • cantonbound13 - Nov 27, 2012 at 10:02 AM

      You’ll get the last laugh when Kyrie Erving becomes a Knick or Laker when his contract is up.

  11. dannymac17 - Nov 27, 2012 at 10:17 AM

    who picks these pictures hahahahaha

  12. dysraw1 - Nov 27, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    it wasn’t the playoffs its just 1 game,big ups to my BK. brethren good showing

  13. 13fitzj - Nov 27, 2012 at 5:50 PM

    I watched the game, so I know what you were talking about, but isn’t it a bit strong to say that the Knicks’ defense got “exposed” when they gave up 96 points in an overtime game.

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