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Compared to Doc Rivers, Big Baby says Magic coach Vaughn is Gandhi

Nov 26, 2012, 10:03 AM EDT

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They are both former NBA players but they come at their jobs very differently.

To hear Orland’s Glen Davis tell it, Celtics coach Doc Rivers is an old school coach where Magic coach Jacque Vaughn is more a players’ coach into positive reinforcement. That’s what Davis told the Boston Herald.

“Different guys,” he said after (Sunday’s) pre-game shootaround. “Doc is more of a military-minded kind of guy, and Jacque is more of a Gandhi kind of guy. Soft but powerful.

“Doc’s more get the job done, and Jacque Vaughn is more the kind of guy who will ask you, Would you feel comfortable getting the job done?” said Davis. “I think that’s different with players. But in my system, I think I just feel better functioning in Jacque’s system. Doc wasn’t the kind of guy to pat you on your back and say, good job, man. He’s more like, OK, move on. In a way that’s positive, but some players are different. Jacque’s a different kind of guy. He pats you on your back – good job. That’s his motivation. But at the same time he still holds you accountable if you’re doing things wrong.”

Which works better? Clearly Rivers’ style if you give him vastly more talent than Vaughn to work with.

Fact is no two players are the same and what motivates one may not motivate another, you have to find the right buttons. It doesn’t matter if you are old school, new school, Zen, a numbers guy, what matters is getting the players to buy into what you are doing.

Rivers has done that. The fact the Magic are 5-8 with that roster shows Vaughn has gotten buy-in, too. And that’s what matters.

  1. themagicfanguy - Nov 26, 2012 at 10:17 AM

    Vaughn’s style is good for this team, it fits. Same with Doc and the C’s. it all depends on the players you have.

    • pantsfreezone - Nov 26, 2012 at 6:08 PM

      Doc is overrated. He had the best collection of players (4 HOFs, probably) for multiple years and managed just one championship. That is a pretty healthy failure in my eyes.

      • naterich21 - Nov 26, 2012 at 6:25 PM

        yeah, the Celtics have been the healthiest team over the past 4 years. Doc has no excuse there

      • pantsfreezone - Nov 27, 2012 at 3:41 PM

        Boston fan excuses:

        1a) Refs!
        1b) We weren’t healthy!

        It gets so old hearing you guys act like the rest of the league is made up of the hero character from Unbreakable. Which is why I always say ‘Boston fans are like the Boston Celtic announcers, utterly terrible.’

  2. nycalldayz - Nov 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    Big Baby just wanted to be man in Boston and Doc wasn’t having that.

  3. misterdreamer119 - Nov 26, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    Big baby go eat some doughnuts. Ill take phil over anybody but doc and pop are next.

  4. rj2323 - Nov 26, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    I agree with the magics roster he is doing a pretty good job

  5. thetruth702 - Nov 26, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    You are a grown ass man and you getting paid millions to play basketball but you need a pat on the back when you do something good???? Dude you’re in NBA, you damn well better be doin something good out there. Glad we got rid if you. No more crying on the bench big BABY

  6. raidmagic - Nov 26, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    I wish he would ask Davis if he thinks falling away from the hoop 15′ out is a good shot…

    • phaden27 - Nov 26, 2012 at 11:27 AM

      Or if blueberry pancakes and spaghetti is a proper pre-game meal.
      Thanks Association.

  7. 1972wasalongtimeago - Nov 26, 2012 at 11:46 AM

    Normally I read the PBT headline and go right to the comments. I actually read this story and the headline is completely misleading. I was all excited about an “Ex-Celtic Ripping Doc Rivers” article, and this article wasn’t anything even close to that.

    Does this happen all the time on PBT or is this an isolated incident?

    • nycalldayz - Nov 26, 2012 at 1:21 PM

      Why would u be excited about an “Ex-Celtic Ripping Doc Rivers” article? Did Rivers personally offend u?

    • 00maltliquor - Nov 26, 2012 at 1:59 PM

      @ 1972


      I thought that was going to be the material too but was only a bit dissapointed. Still liked the article though. And yeah, once or twice a week or so there will be a misleading title.

    • cosanostra71 - Nov 26, 2012 at 9:44 PM

      I think you read what you wanted to read. Didn’t seem like “Ex-Celtic Ripping Doc Rivers” to me at all.

  8. magicbucs - Nov 26, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    Yes it happens a lot on PBT but I’m happy to see that Kurt finally said something positive about the magic and not the lakers or heat.

    Vaughn has this new magic team full of rookies and sophomores with a sprinkle of a few vets playing hard and has a top 7 defense. Every coach has a different approach/style. Vaughn’s style is perfect for the young guys that are willing to be the best professionals they can be.

    Harkless and Nicholson will be studs within a few years.

  9. nokoolaidcowboy - Nov 26, 2012 at 1:47 PM

    I thought this player didn’t like to be referred to as Big Baby?

  10. readysethike - Nov 26, 2012 at 3:11 PM

    i would expect davis to feel more comfortable with a softer and kindler coach…anyone remember when kg made him cry on the bench?

  11. jetstizzi85 - Nov 26, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    Facts are that under Vaughn, Davis is having a career year. Most PPG / BPG and RPG thus far. I would say this system is best for him and this team

  12. ebrownwareagle - Nov 26, 2012 at 8:45 PM


    Wrong! Not Overrated! A they Won one Lost to the Lakers. NUFF said on that end. And to be Frank(whoever the HELL that is), All these guys were past their prime with the exception of Rondo, who blossom into a STUD under Doc. Also, keep in mind these dudes: Garnett, Allen, & Pierce, we’re career losers. I think 2 conference finals appearances combined B4 they came to the Celts. Every other year “IF” they made it, Gone in the 1st Round. And I’m a Lakers Fan. But I do recognize Glen Doc Rivers is a great coach.

  13. thetruth702 - Nov 27, 2012 at 8:36 AM

    Healthiest team? Game 6 of finals lose perkins? KG hurt for playoffs one year? Rondo dislocated elbow in playoffs. No bradley last year and a hurt ray ray and took heat to 7. Not the healthiedt by far lol. Not sayin we should of had more titles but come on haha

  14. paulwoodsby - Nov 28, 2012 at 2:25 AM

    Great to hear Vaughn get some love. He is a stand up guy.

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