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Grizzlies knock Knicks from ranks of undefeated

Nov 17, 2012, 2:32 AM EST

Marc Gasol, Rasheed Wallace

Here’s a good one for your friends who think they know basketball, but maybe don’t follow the day-to-day happenings of the NBA all that closely.

The best record in basketball now belongs to the Memphis Grizzlies, as they had no trouble taking care of the previously undefeated Knicks by a final of 105-95. New York is the only other one-loss team in the league, and only the Spurs, Clippers, Bucks, and Nets have two losses at this early stage in the season.

Memphis might also be the best team in the league period right now, considering that the team’s last three wins have come over Miami, Oklahoma City, and now the Knicks, who had previously looked as solid as anyone from top to bottom. But after coming from behind to take down the Spurs in San Antonio on Thursday, asking for a repeat performance against these Grizzlies was too much.

The Memphis front line was way too much for New York in this one, with a dominant Marc Gasol finishing with 24 points on just 10 shots, and Zach Randolph scoring 20 points and grabbing 15 rebounds. The Grizzlies played a physical game all night long, and it benefited them at the free throw line, where the 10-point advantage they had there was the difference, led by Gasol’s 12-of-13 shooting from the stripe.

Things were chippy between these teams throughout the night, highlighted by J.R. Smith and Jerryd Bayless exchanging an elbow for a shove midway through the second quarter. The dreaded double technicals were called there, but Smith also was called for a flagrant foul in the third quarter for flying in to contest a layup from Tony Allen. It didn’t appear to be anything malicious, as Smith clearly was trying to make a play on the ball, but he did grab Allen’s arm on the follow-through, and the refs may have simply been trying to use that call to get some control of the game.

It probably didn’t help that the play came in the middle of a 19-1 Grizzlies run that put this game away.

It’s way too early to be crowning Conference champions and trying to figure out who would beat whom in a seven-game series come playoff time — which, by the way, is a solid five months away. But early in the season the Grizzlies have impressed perhaps more than anyone, and if they continue to jell as the season progresses and the team remains injury-free, they certainly have the requisite pieces to compete legitimately with just about anyone. And that’s something no one was saying before the season got started.

  1. dannymac17 - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:48 AM

    Clippers beat em though. Then again, Clippers lost to Golden State yikes

  2. chronholio - Nov 17, 2012 at 3:12 AM

    Can we wait before we start crowning teams? I understand they are on a hot streak but we’ve seen the Griz get booted from the playoffs too many times to call them the best team, especially this early in the season.

    • davidly - Nov 17, 2012 at 8:27 AM

      Aside from the fact that the author expressed explicitly his reticence to foist any metaphorical crowns upon anyone, this is just a discussion about sports. It’s supposed to be about fun. Life should be fun, for that matter. Did this article spoil your fun?

      • badintent - Nov 17, 2012 at 3:40 PM

        Yeah, I root for all NY state teams, well…. maybe not the Islanders……………………….
        Hell, I even root for the Bills, they won this week, Giants and Jets did not. When you got 3 NFL teams , someone ALWAYS WINS, just like Wall Street always wins, thanks Obama, checks in the mail, made out to Joe Biden.

        I’m Mitt Romney and I got my check going to a Caymen Islands Box, right next to Obama’s.

  3. chargerdillon - Nov 17, 2012 at 3:55 AM

    #1 most replied comment from a foolish Knicks fan when everybody doubts them like they should…

    “Haters gonna hate”

    I’m not a hater when I actually love the Knicks all the way back to the Ewing days. I can’t in all honesty believe Carmelo Anthony will ever be a champion when he only plays one side of the ball.

    Going to be a fun team all year to watch, great matchups with the big guns, but I don’t consider them a serious contender ever. Bulls hard defense would out-physical them in a series, Heat would out-everything them series, Celtics would out-physical them in a series. I would love to see the Knicks do it, but I certainly wouldn’t drop a dime to bet on it.

    • djeter220 - Nov 17, 2012 at 8:05 AM

      “I can’t in all honesty believe Carmelo Anthony will ever be a champion when he only plays one side of the ball”

      Don’t worry, I’m not calling you a hater, but if you think Melo only plays one side of the ball then you haven’t seen a game since Woodson took over.

      • letangusespertplus - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:45 PM

        just because he makes some defensive plays doesn’t mean he’s giving it his all, i saw him run back lazily on that fast break last night. he’s still a one sided player. if he starts giving that effort all night every night over the course of a few seasons like lbj does, then you can consider him a two way player.

  4. 1972wasalongtimeago - Nov 17, 2012 at 7:10 AM

    Hey Knicks, the 1992 Cavaliers called and they want their uniforms back.

    Turned on the game, looked at the Knicks; and I thought Mark Price, Terrell Brandon, Ehlo, and Daugherty were goingvto walk through the door.

    • cantonbound13 - Nov 17, 2012 at 10:10 AM

      Watching the Knocks now are you? We don’t accept bandwagon jumpers 72, sorry.

      • 1972wasalongtimeago - Nov 17, 2012 at 10:56 AM

        Aw c’mon. Pleeeeeeeeaaase?

  5. mickboogy - Nov 17, 2012 at 8:13 AM

    is small ball even the way to go these days? unless you have lebron most teams should look for strong bigs, who can play defense. Memphis got it right.

    • letangusespertplus - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:47 PM

      strong bigs are getting few and far between. well at least ones that have any kind of post game. there aren’t many that play with their back to the basket anymore.

  6. manchestermiracle - Nov 17, 2012 at 8:52 AM

    Looking like the Grizzlies got value after all when the Lakers sent Marc Gasol there for his brother.

    • jimeejohnson - Nov 17, 2012 at 12:21 PM

      How many championships have the Lakers won since then compared to how many championships the Grizzlies have won since then?

      • letangusespertplus - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:48 PM

        Memphis did it within their means and they are thriving. Their fans actually show up to watch the game rather than the celebs in the seats.

  7. money2long - Nov 17, 2012 at 9:13 AM

    they shouldve kept o.j and used him right.

  8. dadeyemi - Nov 17, 2012 at 10:29 AM

    Yeah, you’re wrong ChargerDillon. Melo was playing defense last year under Woodson, and he’s been top 3 or 4 overall on a team full of scrappy defenders. The and against the spurs where he had 9 points, he did EVERYTHING but score in that game.

    So you clearly aren watching the games, but relying on SportsCenter clips, because there is literally no way anyone, fan or not, who watched the last 7 games would say that Melo is only “playing one side of the ball”

  9. dysraw1 - Nov 17, 2012 at 10:41 AM

    tough game last night, i knew we was gonna drop one sooner or later, the thing i like about last night was even we got unraveled in the 3rd qt. to a man nobody quit.

  10. readysethike - Nov 17, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    horrible officiating last night j.r. smith getting a flagrant one after he was trying to go for a block but keith bogans the other night grabs barbosa around the neck and its not a flagrant…then last night all the breaks in play cuz the refs are trying to decide what to call messed up the flow of the game. both teams are physical just let it be even its like the refs take things personal

    • tonynelson1914 - Nov 17, 2012 at 11:52 AM

      Thank you. Everyone seems to be conditioned or scared to call it what it is. The REFS messed up the flow of the game, as usual…in favor to the Grizzlies advantage. Every time the Knicks got a little momentum going, the refs oppressed the knicks with fouls but allowed the Grizzlies to bang on defense. Check the game stats…just look at the foul comparisons. Lol…The NBA will always be a joke

      • Kurt Helin - Nov 18, 2012 at 10:03 PM

        Only someone watching through blue-and-orange colored glasses though the refs were the issue.

    • dysraw1 - Nov 17, 2012 at 12:59 PM

      I know how difficult it is to ignore the refs, but as a team guys have to understand the refs and their new rules are part of the adversity teams face during the course of new season. its best to adapt, keep playing your game.

    • letangusespertplus - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:51 PM

      i agreed with the flagrant. smith is a POS. he knew he wasnt going to get the ball, his whole intent was to grab his arm you can tell by the way he had his hand. he put a grizz player in harms way by acting like a pissy eyed idiot.

  11. jerdogthompson - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:52 PM

    I’ve been saying for the last two years Marc is better than Pau. Now finally will people agree with me? The better part of Pau ran down his Mommas leg!

    Grizz looked good. Don’t seem at all like their missing Mayo. Gay may actually be ready to have a breakout year. Definitely going to be a tough out for any team come playoffs.

  12. jerdogthompson - Nov 17, 2012 at 1:53 PM

    I’ve been saying for the last two years Marc is better than Pau. Now will people agree with me? The better part of Pau ran down his mammas leg!

    • bozosforall - Nov 17, 2012 at 10:22 PM

      As opposed to the fact that there is NO better part of either jizzdogthompson or Pudhummer53.

  13. ez0682 - Nov 17, 2012 at 2:22 PM

    Reffs 35 knicks 15 in the 3rd q did u idiots watch game.

  14. jordanismyidol - Nov 17, 2012 at 4:52 PM

    Memphis is on a mission this year. Go grizz!!

  15. diamondmo33 - Nov 18, 2012 at 10:55 AM

    I wish they would’ve found a way to keep mayo.

  16. jimsjam33 - Nov 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM

    They’re good , but the Clips have their goat . They hate Bake Griffin and CP3 . The Clippers have their number.

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