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Stan Van Gundy says Brown’s firing ‘the most ridiculous in NBA history’

Nov 9, 2012, 2:37 PM EDT

Orlando's Stan Van Gundy shouts during an NBA playoff basketball game in Indianapolis Reuters

When the Lakers fired Mike Brown on Friday, the next logical step was to wonder who the team would end up getting to replace him as head coach.

It won’t be Stan Van Gundy, despite his credentials.

Now a contributor for the NBC Sports Radio Network, his messy divorce from Dwight Howard and the Orlando Magic a season ago almost immediately disqualifies him, if for no other reason than Howard is a free agent at the end of this season, and L.A. obviously isn’t going to do anything to jeopardize their plan of re-signing him.

But Van Gundy has a unique perspective on the firing, considering how things ended for him after the relative success he achieved in Orlando. And he wasn’t necessarily on board with what the Lakers did to Brown so early in the season.

From Brian Schmitz of the Orlando Sentinel:

It’s unclear if Van Gundy’s outspoken and honest nature will hurt him if indeed he decides to return to the sidelines. But coming from someone whose own termination was pretty crazy, to call this one the most ridiculous of all is certainly quite a statement.

  1. blueintown - Nov 9, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    Is it fair to say Dwight Howard has gotten two head coaches fired in his last five games?

    • videogamepirate - Nov 9, 2012 at 4:11 PM


      It might be fair to say Dwight Howard has gotten two head coaches fired in his last *six* games, though.

    • Mr. Wright 212 - Nov 9, 2012 at 4:15 PM

      lmao I wouldn’t go that far, but that’s not something you would want to be known for, even if it DID happen. He’s been a non-factor (except missing FTs) in three of the five games!

    • badintent - Nov 10, 2012 at 1:38 AM

      Heh, he broke Magic’s record getting Westhead fired after 7 games. Busses trying to out Steinbrenner the General Steinbrenner.

      I’m James Dolan and I approved this message.

    • banggbiskit - Nov 10, 2012 at 1:58 AM

      Its pretty fair and probably pretty accurate.

  2. savvybynature - Nov 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM

    I kind of agree. You have to think that the defense would have tightened up and the turnovers would go down as these guys get more familiar playing with each other. They never even all took the court together until the first game of the season after all, and Nash has been hurt and Kobe banged up as well.

    That said, while I’m sure they would have improved under Brown I’m not sure he was the guy to take them where they want to go.

  3. 1972wasalongtimeago - Nov 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM

    Makes me appreciate even more the leadership of Pat Riley & Mickey Arison, the “coachability” of the Heat players, and the mental toughness of Erik Spoelstra.

    Thank you again.

    • eventhorizon04 - Nov 9, 2012 at 3:13 PM

      Riley handpicked Spoelstra to be his successor and believed in him.

      I bet when the Heat went 9-8 to start, Micky Arison called Riley to ask if he should be concerned, and Riley said, “Just trust me on this.”

      Mike Brown didn’t have anybody who was that loyal to him in Lakers management, and it showed after this rash decision.

    • lew24 - Nov 9, 2012 at 3:31 PM

      Pat Riley and Mickey Arison have never fired a coach early in the season…just ask Stan Van Gundy!

      • 1972wasalongtimeago - Nov 9, 2012 at 4:16 PM

        Let’s assume for a second Van Gundy was fired in Miami (he resigned after 21 games, but whatever). When Van Gundy was “fired” there was a plan in place to replace him with Pat Riley. They had a vision and they went with it.

        The Lakers have no vision here. They don’t have a replacement (Bernie Bickerstaff? What, Paul Silas wasn’t available?). They don’t have an offense. They have nothing other than a roster of great names.

      • Kurt Helin - Nov 20, 2012 at 3:17 PM

        Be clear, he resigned because if he didn’t he was going to be fired. SVG was pushed out the door.

      • heat256 - Nov 9, 2012 at 4:57 PM

        Lew: Actually, thank Shaq for that. He had zero respect for Van Gundy. And, eventually, Riley.

  4. eventhorizon04 - Nov 9, 2012 at 3:12 PM

    Look, I’m not a huge Mike Brown fan, and I’ve been making fun of him, but it really makes no sense to decide, during the offseason, “Mike Brown is the best man we can get for the job,” then after FIVE regular season games, fire him.

    He never had a chance to succeed.
    They went 1-4. What if he had gone 2-3 or 3-2, would Brown still be the coach?

    And if so, did Lakers management seriously base their decision on 1-2 regular season game losses?

    • drunkenjunk - Nov 9, 2012 at 5:02 PM

      i agree this move reeks of panic and desperation.

    • lakerfan4life - Nov 9, 2012 at 10:52 PM

      Don’t forget the 0-8 preseason record, which brings the actual record to 1-12. We all said is “meaningless”, but it’s not like the Lakers have shown any difference in their play, once the “real” season began. I think internally, Laker management could see that things weren’t showing any signs of improvement.

      Once you can plainly see that you are traveling the wrong way down the highway, how long do you wait before you admit you’re going the wrong way and turn around?

      I think Mike Brown is a nice guy, but the Lakers weren’t beginning to get better. They looked worse in the Utah game then any of the previous games. Why continue to wait to do the inevitable?

  5. magicbucs - Nov 9, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    @1972… You’re a heat fan I’m a magic. The one thing we share in common is the dislike for the lakers haha!

    It’s not browns fault the players suck…

    • 1972wasalongtimeago - Nov 9, 2012 at 4:17 PM

      I don’t dislike the Lakers.

  6. mannyfresh209 - Nov 9, 2012 at 3:27 PM

    Argument is officially over now: LeBron James is better than Kobe Bryant.

    That Cavs team, with farrrrrrrrrr inferior talent was absolutely ballin on offense and defense, under Brown.

    This Lakers team can’t do either. Now, injuries plays a huge factor in this. Didn’t play together once in the preseason, and so far in this one their star center is still recovering and Nash is out. Not easy putting the pieces together when the pieces literally cannot stay put-together.

    • eventhorizon04 - Nov 9, 2012 at 3:40 PM

      I don’t buy it.

      At best, you could say that this proves LeBron at age 24 was better than Kobe at age 34, but even that is a stretch.

      • eventhorizon04 - Nov 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM

        *Even saying that is a stretch based on 5 regular season games under Mike Brown.

      • donivantrip - Nov 9, 2012 at 4:23 PM

        Lmao last years lebron is better than ANY version of kobe. Wake up from that wet kobe dream your in. It isn’t a “stretch” as of right now it isn’t even debatable who the better player is. Lebron is miles ahead of kobrick

    • donivantrip - Nov 9, 2012 at 4:30 PM

      Its been over for a while now lmao. Idk why it took a championship for everybody to realize lbj is the best

      • jimeejohnson - Nov 9, 2012 at 8:53 PM

        Same reason knowledgeable fans know Lebron is not in Michael Jordan’s league, yet.

      • progress2011 - Nov 10, 2012 at 12:53 PM

        Also the same reason KNOWLEDGEABLE fans know kobe is not in MJ’s league…..NO PLAYER IS.

        Even though kobe sleeps with one of Jordan’s old J@cks every night and watches an MJ highlight reel, before every game….

        Because he mimic’s MJ and is not his own man, does not make him….in MJ’s league !


  7. misterdreamer119 - Nov 9, 2012 at 4:06 PM

    How people think Bryant is even in a coversation of being as good as Lebron is just follhearted. Kobe on the Cavs = 35 wins tops, in his prime too. Lebron on Cavs 60 plus wins every year. F


    • cramsinned - Nov 9, 2012 at 4:36 PM

      If Kobe played his prime on the Cavs team (LeBron era), he might reach playoffs but I doubt that he will win a single ring.

    • manchestermiracle - Nov 10, 2012 at 9:17 AM


      fool·har·dy   [fool-hahr-dee] adjective, fool·har·di·er, fool·har·di·est.
      recklessly or thoughtlessly bold; foolishly rash or venturesome.

  8. rocirius - Nov 9, 2012 at 4:46 PM

    LeBron has been better than Kobe every year he’s been in the NBA in virtually every conceivable way.

    • savvybynature - Nov 9, 2012 at 5:13 PM

      Especially in the “passing when the game is on the line” department. Take that how you want, but that’s been the biggest difference between the two.

  9. slartibartfast4242 - Nov 9, 2012 at 5:42 PM

    Oh please. Then Stan Van Gundy is the most ridiculous blowhard in the NBA history too. This guy always struck me as a frontrunner. He should get together with Bobby Valentine and whine to each other while sparing us.

    Btw, I am not a Lakers fan at all, but the NBA is more fun when they are doing good. Beating up on a really good Lakers team feels much better than beating a mediocre one.

  10. scalfor3 - Nov 9, 2012 at 6:00 PM

    I’d agree with him if Stan had said “hiring”

  11. manchestermiracle - Nov 9, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    After hearing this I must say that the Lakers hiring Van Gundy would be even more ridiculous. At what point does any Brown supporter think he’d have turned this around? He and his staff underachieved last year with arguably less talent than he had this year, along with a less-complicated and more appropriate offense.

    The team wasn’t just 0-8 in the preseason and 1-4 in the regular season, they weren’t even close to winning games consistently, and had been blown out of many of them. Giving up huge points with a supposed defensive specialist as head coach was the clincher. I thought Van Gundy was a halfway decent coach, but now I’m beginning to think Howard was right in wanting him gone.

  12. truwarier90 - Nov 10, 2012 at 3:54 AM


    lebron was in the east, kobe is playing in the west, the only teams lebron had to worry bout back then was pistons and celtics, and only the pistons were in his division, get outta here with that BS, go read some history books

    OBAMA 2012

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