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Lakers finish preseason 0-8. Still not time to freak out.

Oct 26, 2012, 1:44 AM EDT

Steve Nash, Dwight Howard, Metta World Peace, Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol AP

The “Super Team” is a failure. These Lakers were always overrated. This group was never going to mesh, there is only one basketball. They are a disaster and David Stern’s master plan has failed. This isn’t a real team, this was a “good on paper team.” They don’t care about defense. They should have kept Bynum. OMG the Lakers suck. And so does Jim Buss. And Chinatown. And Malibu beaches. And the food truck craze.

The Lakers went 0-8 in the preseason and an earthquake is about to drop Los Angeles into the ocean.

Has everyone got that out of their system? Good. Let’s move on now.

Before you start to shovel dirt on the Lakers and their super team, maybe we should see them with their regular roster in a game that actually matters.

There is really no situation where going 0-8 is ideal. Not even preseason NBA basketball. But as Pau Gasol said after the loss on Wednesday: “We’d all love to be 7-0 instead of 0-7. Would that make us win more games in regular season? Probably not.”

Injuries (to Dwight Howard and Kobe Bryant primarily), keeping the minutes down on veterans, the key lineup barely playing together, experimental rotations, a whole lot of things doomed the Lakers in the preseason.

Those things disappear next Tuesday when the Lakers open against the Mavericks.

(Well, maybe not Kobe’s foot injury, but I still expect him to play because, well, he’s Kobe Bryant. He always plays.)

If Lakers fans really want something to fret about there are a couple things they can take away from this ugly stretch of preseason, issues that should be of some concern. Depth for one. The Lakers weren’t a deep team to start with and preseason games are about the bench getting a lot of run. And it wasn’t pretty. The Lakers also were a turnover machine — 149 in 8 games — as they adjusted to new players in a new offense.

But that was all part of the process of forming this collection of talent into a team. That process is not over. It will start to look different next week, but the Lakers likely don’t hit their stride for a couple months.

Still, things will be different next Tuesday. If the offense gets stuck Steve Nash is going to run the pick-and-roll with Dwight Howard. Pau Gasol is going to play 35 minutes. The Lakers will be playing their strongest rotations, not just experimenting.

If you are rooting for the Lakers to fail, revel in the 0-8 preseason record for the next few days. Because as of next week it doesn’t matter. And we all know things are going to look different.

  1. e39er - Oct 26, 2012 at 2:04 AM

    This team will be good, just a matter of time, new offense along with new people isn’t going to happen over night, clear example of this is Miami who everyone thought they were going to win right away and even then took them a year before they finally clicked, with that said I don’t expect them to beat OKC this year, and I expect to see a OKC vs MIA rematch

  2. adeedothatswho - Oct 26, 2012 at 2:32 AM

    The Lakers can win this year. Miami was doing something completely different. Their pieces didn’t fit together, and it took them time and experimenting to figure out how to work together. The Lakers fit together much better at the start. The Nash/Howard combo is devastating. Kobe and Pau are more than smart enough to figure out where they fit in best. This team makes so much more basketball sense than the Heat did.

  3. xcastorx - Oct 26, 2012 at 2:44 AM

    The problem with Lakers is they’re just too slow and too old.

  4. gopokes0714 - Oct 26, 2012 at 3:37 AM

    preseason is a reflection of your bench. 0-7 would suggest that you better hope your starters are in really good shape, and significantly better than everyone else’s starters

    • dls612 - Oct 26, 2012 at 8:26 AM

      Absolutely! The starters can only hold it down for so long! When the Lakers play these monster teams with depth they gonna be in a position to keep their starters on the floor a lot longer and thats gonna cause fatigue and a higher risk of injury! Kobe, d12, and Nash can’t afford it! it will be interesting to see the outcome.

  5. eventhorizon04 - Oct 26, 2012 at 3:43 AM

    ….I’m not a Lakers fan, and I recently moved to Boston for work, yet NO ONE I’ve talked to has said that “The Lakers are no longer contenders because they went 0-7 in the preseason.”

    Pre-season in any sport (basketball, football, etc.) is irrelevant to the regular season since starters who normally log 35+ minutes per game only play 20 minutes per game in preseason – or they sit out games entirely. Half of the guys you see play in preseason will later be cut or will never see significant playing time.

    This Lakers will not be judged based on how they play in pre-season, or even much of the regular season. This is a team whose expectations are NBA Finals or bust, meaning they’ll be judged on how they do in the playoffs.

    So nobody should overreact to the Lakers’ performance at this point.

    • colincb - Oct 26, 2012 at 5:06 AM

      You’re right , but their bench really, really stinks and Kobe and Nash aren’t quite the players they use to be even if they are near elite. Thunder have anti-D12 weapons on hand in Perkins and Ibaka. Then they’d have to get past the improved Heat or the much improved Celtics [who are laughably being ranked behind the Clippers and Spurs].

    • dls612 - Oct 26, 2012 at 9:12 AM

      Listen closely! This is basketball not football ,soccer and baseball where the depth rotation is greater and teams have many options! No one said the wouldn’t be contenders but preseason is a report-card that shows a teams strength and weaknesses!

  6. acdc363 - Oct 26, 2012 at 7:53 AM

    Lol noobs

  7. paultade1 - Oct 26, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    It’s interesting that everyone seems to assume that the Lakers are the only team dealing with preseason health issues, resting starters, new players, etc. Last time I checked, 29 other teams go through the same process and most don’t end up 0-8. I’m a Laker fan, and I’m worried.

  8. xcastorx - Oct 26, 2012 at 9:34 AM

    These Lakers team will never win a championship unless they will be coached again by Phil Jackson.Phil is the only reason why the Lakers lead by Kobe and Bulls lead by Jordan win a championships.Sorry for wrong grammar coz im Filipino.

    • cosanostra71 - Oct 26, 2012 at 1:09 PM

      You do realize the Lakers won 11 championships before Phil Jackson, right?

  9. spthegr8 - Oct 26, 2012 at 10:02 AM

    Everybody needs to CHILL THE F**K OUT!!!!!!!!!! It is the PRE-SEASON. It means NOTHING @ all. These guy’s just started playing together and are still in the “feeling out stage”. That’s why we are turning the ball over so much. If this is still happening around the all star break or after. Then I will be a little worried. When they have some time to gel, WATCHOUT!!!!!!!! So all you “TROLLS” better have your fun with this, while you can. Cuz TRUST ME, it WON’T last long.!!!!!

  10. davidly - Oct 26, 2012 at 10:38 AM

    This is how it’s gonna go:
    There’ll be a stretch of games in which they struggle; all the talk will be about how they’re not good enough.
    There’ll be a stretch of games in which the offense flows lock clockwork and the team-D comes together; all the talk will be about how they are unbeatable.
    There’ll be a lot of games in which they won’t be able to close out the opposition, which’ll be a problem, because most of their games are gonna be close.
    Along the way, there’ll be rumors and speculation about whether or not Howard will stay, whether or not Nash will play another year, whether or not it is even worth it to keep this team together.
    Meanwhile, some younger and more athletic (and deeper talented) team is going to win it all.

    • sellahh - Oct 26, 2012 at 2:53 PM

      man oh man oh man, you seemed like a perfectly sane person, hell the sanest person ever and then u killed it with this “depper talented team”
      no team has deeper talent than Lakers. not Miami, not OKC, Lakers are the most talented team hands down

  11. jerdogthompson - Oct 26, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    Yep. Preseason, a time for player adjustments, rotation changes, etc……

    You’re all very right, next week all teams are reset to 0-0. What I’d be concerned about above all else is that Kobe took a golf cart into the arena last night rather than walk the 450 feet. I have a sneaky suspicion that the team will announce Kobe has something more major going on in his foot than a “bruise”. I’m guessing Lisfranc, but what do I know?

    The bench has looked horrid, Nash hasnt looked sharp at all and Meeks & Sacre appear to be the only new additions that are worth anything. Time will tell but if I were a Laker fan I’d keep my boasting & chest pounding at bay until this team can prove that it can win against the very deep Western conference teams.

    • passerby23 - Oct 26, 2012 at 2:37 PM

      The Lakers are still my pick to win it all, but I acknowledge the many reasons why it could fail:

      1) I agree, bench is abysmal. That usually results in starter fatigue, which means losing regular season games and homecourt advantage which could prove important.
      2) They’re old. Kobe’s miles and injuries are adding up, Nash’s back has been an ongoing problem for a few years now, and Gasol, Artest and Jamison are no spring chickens. I see parallels with the ’04 Lakers. Oh, but Malone and Payton were past their primes, you might say. Well, so are Nash and Kobe and perhaps Gasol, but Kobe WAS in his prime in ’04 and Shaq was still putting up huge numbers.
      3) I still struggle envisioning chemistry with this group. If you take Kobe out and replace him with more of a pure shooter, it looks beautiful. But, Kobe commands the ball. Will Nash be more of a stand-around spot-up guy? Then, that’s not making good use of him.

      Overall, I can’t bet against this collection of talent much like I couldn’t in ’04, but I was wrong then too.

    • sellahh - Oct 26, 2012 at 2:55 PM

      u know what the worg swag stand for? in this case it stands for ‘taking a 450 feet ride in a golf cart’

  12. echech88 - Oct 26, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    There would probably be more panic from Laker fans if they were actually able to watch the Lakers on TV.

  13. cosanostra71 - Oct 26, 2012 at 1:10 PM

    It’s just preseason. If we are 0-8 in the regular season, then I’ll worry! I’m just excited for the real games to start!

    • sellahh - Oct 26, 2012 at 2:57 PM

      I’ll worry if we’re not 8-0 in the regular season.
      Lakers all the way.

  14. lakeshlame - Oct 26, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    First year the Miami Heat assembled big three they started off 12-8, Lakers will do better than that. It all matters what happens at end of the year anyhow. Lakers bench is actually better this year than last. But Mike Brown is terrible, Lakers only major concern.

  15. paulhargis53 - Oct 26, 2012 at 6:16 PM

    sellahh: The lakers are the deepest team?!?! _That’s the most idiotic statement ever. What a freaking homer.

    That team is 7 deep if they are lucky. The rest of the bench is D league caliber.

    Deepest team in the league…lmao!

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