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Allen says Boston put him in a position where he had to leave

Oct 19, 2012, 4:04 PM EDT

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There has been no shortage of discussion about and theories as to why Ray Allen left the Celtics for the rival Heat.

Was it no longer being a starter? His role on the team? Rajon Rondo not getting him the rock on the court? Rondo off the court? As with just about everything in life it was not just one thing but a shaken cocktail of many ingredients.

But Allen lays it all at the feet of the Celtics. At least he did in speaking with friend of this blog (he’s had me on many times) the Big O from WMEN in Miami (via Sports Radio Interviews).

It was a business decision and the team put me in the position where we had to move. We had to go. Miami was a better choice for us based on what the team was doing, so it wasn’t, don’t boo me, boo the team in a sense. Now it’s out of my control. … When this contract situation came down, everybody in my circle — mom, family, brother, sister, friends from college, people who watched me since I was in high school and since I was in college — nobody wanted me to resign in that situation because they thought, ‘There [is] so much left in you and this team isn’t taking care of you or treating you right.’ That’s the way I felt and it was like, if you are going to come and not put out a good contract on the table then, hey, we gotta think about going somewhere else.”

Interesting. We need to note here that Boston offered Allen more money — Boston offered two years at $6 million per, Miami and he reached a deal for two years at the tax-payers mid-level ($3 million this year, $3.2 next year). If Boston’s contract was insulting to him in some way, he didn’t make more moving on.

Which shows this wasn’t about money, it was about being wanted. Boston is a team shifting to the future — Rondo will be the man, Avery Bradley is a good fit next to him in the backcourt. Allen felt pushed aside by all that. He goes down to Miami and he is courted and told how much he is wanted and needed and that wins him over. Allen has his money, this was about playing where he felt a fit, where he felt needed.

And it’s natural for him to think Boston didn’t give him that. Even if it doesn’t look like that at all from the Celtics’ side of the table.

  1. miamatt - Oct 19, 2012 at 4:22 PM

    We’re thrilled to have you Ray. Here’s hoping the city of Miami can watch you add a couple more Championship rings to that sweet-shooting hand.

    • cforlife2012 - Oct 20, 2012 at 1:03 AM

      Ray Allen sucks! What a little bitch because Avery took his job! His ego was hurt so will it hurt again when we smash the Heat!

  2. dalucks - Oct 19, 2012 at 4:22 PM

    This was an ego move by Ray Allen. He did not want to come off the bench for Boston at 6 million dollars a year but he will come off the bench for Miami for half the money. People say Miami has a better shot of winning a 20K ring than Boston. As Bill Clinton told Mitt Romney, the math does not add up.
    Ego aside, I think I would have come off the bench in Boston for 6 million dollars. If it does not make dollars than it does not make sense.

    • eugenesaxe - Oct 19, 2012 at 8:14 PM

      It’s not ego to want a ring.

  3. lew24 - Oct 19, 2012 at 4:24 PM

    No state taxes in Florida…I still don’t think the numbers equal out but that has to be a factor.

    Either way…this wasn’t about the money but more about him being disrespect with all those trade rumors and the benching.

  4. kimoxxx116 - Oct 19, 2012 at 4:57 PM

    Boo the city?no, boo you..duh!..it was more than the money ray for sure..i would gladly get 6mil per yr and come off the bench coz i already have d experience..there’s nothing much to prove..in short youstill got the EGO ray. Cmon man grow up..lol

  5. dalucks - Oct 19, 2012 at 5:08 PM

    No state taxes in Florida is highly overrated and often misrepresented. That has nothing to do with an athlete playing for Miami or Orlando, that is used based upon any person or athlete living in Florida for 6 months of the year or your residence in the state of Florida is where that person files taxes. So you do not have to play for the Heat or Magic to use that tax policy. Carlos Boozer is an example of an athlete who takes advantage of this tax policy. If I am not mistaken, Texas, Nevada, Alaska, South Dakota, Washington and Wyoming offer the same state tax policy.
    Besides, coming off the bench in Miami or Boston is the same since the bench cushions are the same on every bench in the NBA.
    No one wants to say the obvious, Ray Allen is a diva.

  6. Legacy112 - Oct 19, 2012 at 5:27 PM

    He almost gets traded. He gets benched. He fights through screens running around the court and doesnt even get the ball. Then boston offers a fat contract because they have the money to spare. Thinking they could get him to stay and then trade him for a younger guy.

    You didnt have to put up with that Ray. Glad you didnt.

  7. paulhargis53 - Oct 19, 2012 at 5:35 PM

    legacy, that is false. They offered him a contract with a no trade.

    poster above is right, he’s become a diva.

    • Legacy112 - Oct 19, 2012 at 6:18 PM

      Didnt know that. My mistake. I still like seeing number #34 again. It was time to move on.

    • dls612 - Oct 19, 2012 at 8:27 PM

      They was trying to get rid of him the pass few years. The man got sick & tired of the trade rumors which was hardly a rumor! They didn’t offer the no-trade contract until they found out Miami was the front runners to get him! So it wasn’t a genuine offer!

    • bozosforall - Oct 19, 2012 at 10:41 PM

      Funny watching bitter Boston fans refer to Ray as a diva. Bitter Boston fans always say that about any player that leaves their tens of their own volition. It’s the bitter Boston fans that are the real losers here. Losers in life, that is. Pudhummer53 being the biggest loser of them all.

      • giselleisasucubus - Oct 20, 2012 at 11:09 AM

        Welcome back, Clown. You haven’t killed yourself yet?

      • bozosforall - Oct 21, 2012 at 9:49 PM

        Why would I? MY team isn’t the one with ONE measly title in the last quarter century like your pathetic Puh C’s. You might want to follow your own directive, loser.

  8. mydadyourmom - Oct 19, 2012 at 5:42 PM

    I ain’t like everybody else, everybody else ain’t you’re father.

  9. mrcuret - Oct 19, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    So he didn’t feel wanted in Boston but they offered him 6 mil a yr to Miami’s 3. Allen is a joke, he didn’t want to come from the bench in Boston but he’ll be doing so in Miami. This dude is selfish, it’s obvious his ego got hurt when he lost the starting job to Bradley, a 21 yr old kid (16 yrs younger) who’s developing as a very good player in the league. And he talks about being professional? If he was so professional he would’ve stayed in Boston, accepted a role he’d be more suited for, and help develop the young guys. Someone needs to tell this guy that when you get to a certain age you’re not the same player you were 5 yrs ago (as it was evident in the playoffs), it happens to all athletes, but it’s obvious that his ego is so big that he can’t admit it. It’s sad, he was a really good player, now he’s nothing more than a diva. Oh well, that’s Miami’s problem to deal with now.

    • pantsfreezone - Oct 20, 2012 at 3:27 PM

      Are you Boston fan’s short term memory’s so bad that you can’t even remember last season when Boston shopped Ray around the league, telling him to pack up because he was traded twice before Ainge had a last second change of heart?

      In Boston he was being phased out by a horrible GM who signs garbage like Jason Terry, in Miami he is the 6th man, gets to play with studs in Wade, James, and Bosh and will be on the court when crunch time happens. Plus, he actually has a chance to win a championship in Miami instead of being barely able to make the playoffs like the Celtics will struggle to do this year.

      I swear Boston fans are the worst, just like the Celtics announcers.

      • michaeljordanseviltwin - Oct 20, 2012 at 7:17 PM

        Tommy Heinsohn is the worst “color commentator” that I’ve ever heard. He doesn’t even pretend to be doing a job; he just bitches about the refs and celebrates the Celtics good plays.

  10. lakerluver - Oct 19, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    Why is Ray lying? Why not just come out and say, “I hate Rondo, and I don’t want to back up a kid I think I’m better than”? Honestly, I think Boston got better by losing Ray and getting Terry. Though I’m sure they didn’t want to see him in a Heatles jersey. Ray might’ve been hurt last year but he still missed a lot of wide open jumpers. Maybe Ray Ray is just done done?

    • scalfor3 - Oct 20, 2012 at 11:55 PM

      Ray isn’t done, he actually had a pretty good season but a bad postseason because he was playing through an injury. I agree that it would be better if he admitted “I went to Miami because I wanted to screw it to Boston.” He wouldn’t have simply chosen to go to Miami, effectively severing ties with some of his teammates (including KG and Pierce), if it wasn’t personal.

  11. metalhead65 - Oct 19, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    almost as bad as players saying it was not about the money is when they play the lack of respect card. really ray? funny you did not have a problem with the way you were treated during your time there untill the trade rumors started. yea how dare the celtics think about moving a older player with a injured ankel for picks or younger player. how dare they think about the future of the team over your feelings. and how dare they tell you to come off the bench even though you work for them and are paid allot of money,god forbid you do what you are told to do without bitching. but keep telling yourself it was about lack of respect if it makes you feel better to turn down all that money to play for less on another team. do not expect a warm welcome when you come back to boston,yes you won a championship there but you were paid all the love and respect for that while you were there. you are not a celtic anymore and showed your true self by signing with the heat a heated and hated rival.

  12. timb12 - Oct 19, 2012 at 6:22 PM

    The Heat have so many shooters if he’s not hitting, like he didn’t in a lot of Celtic games, then he’ll be sitting on the bench making less. I know he played well for the Celtics, but last year I didn’t see him on the court. I guess you could blame Rondo for that too though.

  13. 1972wasalongtimeago - Oct 19, 2012 at 6:40 PM

    Do Celtics fans criticize Jason Terry for leaving Dallas? He did the same thing Ray did, except of course he constantly chirps about how great he is whereas Ray handles himself with class.

    Funny how not one C’s fan calls Terry a diva. And also funny that no Mavs fan is sad that he left.

  14. mikeewright7 - Oct 19, 2012 at 7:19 PM

    LMAO really??? the comments on this page is beyond stupid
    since im one of the biggest Ray Allen fans there is ima set it straight for you idiots,

    Reasons why i believed Ray Allen left,
    Yes the obvious losing the starting position to Avery Bradley prolly hurt,
    Maybe him and Rondo had some issues but i hardly doubt that was it
    Miami offered less money and Boston offered more, so money wasnt the issue,
    Lets point out the obvious, how many times was Ray Allen place on the trading block and damn near traded??? Ohh how bout being traded to Memphis then mintues later the deal fell apart?

    BOSTON FRONT OFFICE KEPT USING RAY ALLEN AS BAIT TO GET A BETTER PLAYER! KEY WORD USING
    Exactly how dare anyone get mad at Ray Allen because he didnt want to repeat that BS Danny Ainge kept pulling, its all about wanting to feel wanted!!!!
    Boston made KG there #1 priority and Ray Allen was a ???? even in the offseason to Boston,
    they only offered a “no clause contract” because they knew he were leaving, thats why the went after Jason Terry and Courtney Lee before Ray Allen even made his mine up.

    Yea he’s older and he didnt ask for a trade nor did he act like Dwight Howard or Melo so he still handled this situation like a professional, he stuck in there and hope Boston front office would show him respect and not trade him, you on PBT or yall wanna blame someone blame Danny Ainge for trying to trade him every season.

    Lets be honest the people thats mad is either Laker fans or bitter Boston fans or some off brand NBA fan who team doesnt stand a chance against Miami again,
    I bleed the Boston blood for 5 years, but only because my favorite player was on that team, and i couldnt just turn my back on Boston cause i felt every emotion possible being a Celtic fan since 2008!
    But Ray Allen is looking out for him and i would do the same thing, Ill be cheering you on until you retire, Loyal fan since 1996
    Hopefully Miami repeat!

    • scalfor3 - Oct 20, 2012 at 11:57 PM

      “BOSTON FRONT OFFICE KEPT USING RAY ALLEN AS BAIT TO GET A BETTER PLAYER! KEY WORD USING”

      THAT’S HOW THINGS WORK IN THE NBA ITS A BUSINESS

  15. chicagofan - Oct 19, 2012 at 7:51 PM

    As a Celtics season ticket holder, I will miss Ray Allen’s class but his replacements are going to add more than his staying. There would be limited minutes for him with the new depth the Celtics added. Jason Terry is more versatile and a very good 3point shooter, Courtney Lee is faster and will create more easy fast break points running with Rondo and shots 49% from the corner 3. Avery Bradley is younger and excellent cutter and will get some easy baskets also. Jeff Green is back to his old form and will also help on the fast break. Bass’s shooting is back, KG is back, Sullinger the rookie can play. Paul Pierce will still be there and will be able to rest more in the regular season. Rondo is the engine that drives the Celtic machine and it is going to be faster and more explosive than ever. They don’t need Ray to beat the Heat anymore!

  16. papazoid - Oct 19, 2012 at 7:55 PM

    KG & Pierce are 36 & 35 respectively…..Lebron, Bosh & Wade are 27,28 &30……boston was phasing him out…..it was not about the money…..it was about feeling wanted and having a better chance at another ring.

  17. eugenesaxe - Oct 19, 2012 at 8:16 PM

    Shut up and contribute to another Miami ring, or just shut up.

  18. reastnt - Oct 19, 2012 at 8:22 PM

    No one should be upset at Ray Allen for making a choice that was his to make. I do, however, find it unfortunate to hear a player I’ve always liked frame things in this “my people told me I was getting a raw deal, so ‘we’ had to move” way. Either keep it to yourself or be straightforward about it. Too bad the Allen Iverson (et al.) view of the NBA has rubbed off on Ray Allen.

    • metalhead65 - Oct 20, 2012 at 5:41 PM

      nobody is upset over his choice to leave but over his reasons. just come out and say you were unhappy and wanted to move on but to try and make it sound like it was the celtics fault is just lame. you made the decision now man up give the real reason you left and not the stupid lack of respect card. for 6 million a year they could disrespect me all they want.

  19. beantownfanatic2012 - Oct 19, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    I love how the Boston fans are speaking the truth about Ray and all the Heat fans are disliking it. Listen up Heat fans what us Boston fans are saying is the truth about Ray! Doc preached in the beginning about putting your ego aside and sacrificing for the team. Ray, KG, and Pierce ALL did it in the beginning and look why happened??? They got a championship. 5 yrs later Ray loses his spot to a younger hungry kid and he don’t like it! Guess what that is?? EGO! He got pissed and didn’t like it and yeah the trade rumors I’m sure sucked for him but the new contract they proposes put in a no trade clause and they have him more money than Miami for the exact same role he has now and now he’s saying he needed to go! Sorry but everything Ray is saying now is a lie and he should practice what he preaches in being a professional and just say it was time to go! I didn’t like the move at first cause lets be honest, it’s Ray Allen! But looking at it now I’m so glad he’s gone. We don’t have to waist time and energy to get him his touches. He left Boston the way Manny Ramirez left town! On a sour note. It’s all good though cause I can’t wait til we raise banner 18 without him while he’s gonna have to sit back and watch thinking I could of had more money and another title! Sorry but he turned into a big ass chump with his latest comments in my eyes! Good riddance!

  20. paulhargis53 - Oct 19, 2012 at 10:54 PM

    Hey there’s bozo! Where ya been buttplug? I bet you were getting your stool pushed in at your local men’s only bar.

    Same tired posting time after time.

    You have the wit of an autistic.

  21. shockexchange - Oct 20, 2012 at 10:43 AM

    Who put Ray in a position where he had to miss all those wide open treys in Game 7 of the finals against the Lakers?

  22. giselleisasucubus - Oct 20, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    Kurt, sometimes you are so clueless. This is a PR move and you know it. He doesn’t want to look like the bad guy. To say that money wasn’t part of it is also ignorant, especially considering the quote from THIS post
    “There [is] so much left in you and this team isn’t taking care of you or treating you right.’ That’s the way I felt and it was like, if you are going to come and not put out a good contract on the table then, hey, we gotta think about going somewhere else.”

    Wasn’t about money? You want to rephrase that? Yes, he thought Miami would give him more playing time, but he wanted 10-11 mil, which is ridiculous, and the Celtics said “hell no”. Good luck to the Heat in dealing with his broken down 37 y/o ankles.

  23. paulhargis53 - Oct 20, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    dumbass. Rays ankles are screwed. He wasn’t phased out, he was beat about by younger better overall player. He was offered a no trade and that still wasn’t good enough.
    Ray is a great player and I will always appreciate what he did for Boston.

    That being said, Ray wasn’t going to be anymore than the 5th guard. Terry, Lee and Bradley are all better at this point. Ray can’t play d anymore.

    I called you dumbass because of the struggle to make the playoffs comment.
    You have to be borderline mentally challenged to say that.
    I’m sure you’re a heat fan, so I typed this all out slowly for you.

    You’re right to be afraid of the Celtics. Deepest and best rotation in the league.

    Your fans continous mocking of them just reinforces how scared you really are, please keep it up.

  24. innerarrogance - Oct 20, 2012 at 8:35 PM

    Respect Allen for putting himself in a WINNING position rather than taking the green for a lesser role. In last years post-season, Allen had a horrible showing which was also part of the decision to go to South Beach. Boston won’t miss him, it’s the RONDO SHOW in Boston…KG and Paul Pierce as side acts…

  25. urodaddy07 - Oct 21, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    The problem for Ray is that he wants minutes on the court and if his shot is off, as it has been for a while, he is not going to get minutes in Miami.

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