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Stoudemire says he didn’t have to learn post play with D’Antoni

Oct 8, 2012, 11:46 AM EDT

New York Knicks Media Day Basketball AP

It’s been much discussed this summer — Amar’e Stoudemire went down to Houston to learn post moves from the master, Hakeem Olajuwon (following the pattern of a lot of big men).

The idea is that it will provide him more opportunities in the Knicks offense because he’ll space out better with Carmelo Anthony. We’ll see, Tyson Chandler was already hanging out on the block and he seemed to disappear in the playoffs. The spacing will be different, that’s certain. The upside is Stoudemire will have more weapons in his arsenal to turn to when he does get the rock.

What was interesting in Stoudemire talking about his summer with the New York media was why he said he never developed a traditional post game. From the New York Post:

“I’m a player who adapted to the system I played in,’’ Stoudemire said. “I’ve been under D’Antoni for seven, eight years. Post-up wasn’t a factor for us. We were such a high-octane, up-tempo team where speed and quickness was to our advantage. I’m now allowed to develop a post game where my speed and quickness will still be used to my advantage but add a lot of [post] skill.’’

Certainly, classic post play was a limited part of the D’Antoni offense. But as Tom Ziller pointed out on twitter, Stoudemire did have a very good turn and face-up post game before.

Defining post play as only with your back to the basket is kind of like Shaq saying the other day that Dwight Howard is somehow not a real center because he gets a lot of opportunities out of the pick-and-roll — it’s a narrow-minded, dated way of looking at things. What a player should do is what is effective — if you are a dangerous big man on the pick-and-roll and you are playing with Steve Nash, you should run P&R until your legs fall off. Stoudemire’s advantage has long been quickness and athleticism, so to use face-up post moves that allowed him to better use those traits makes sense. As he ages, he’s looking at other options.

What matters is simply how effective it is. We will see how effective Stoudemire can be in the Knicks offense this year.

  1. thomaskouns - Oct 8, 2012 at 1:18 PM

    Mike D. definitely had his faults as a coach but it took you nearly 10 years in the league to figure out that a 6’10 250 athletic power forward might be better off with a post game. Yeah, I’m sure D’Antoni would have really been bothered if you developed a ‘post-game’ in the off-season.

    Ever heard the word ‘initiative’…………

    • LPad - Oct 8, 2012 at 4:40 PM

      After seeing how upset DAntoni was about the Suns getting Shaq, I wouldn’t have bothered either. If the guy doesn’t want to post up Shaq then he isn’t going to want to post Amare.

  2. lakerluver - Oct 8, 2012 at 5:20 PM

    D’ Antoni was a joke of a head coach.

    • money2long - Oct 8, 2012 at 5:41 PM

      he said his system only works with a great point guard. in phx he had that. and he was successful there. if he were to go to the bulls instead of ny he would have had that too in rose. but ny’s point guard situation was so hectic every season he was there. he went through the marbury turmoil remember.

      • propjoe718 - Oct 9, 2012 at 12:34 AM

        He played with Marbury when he was a sun Marbury and amare didn’t play a game together in NY..

  3. propjoe718 - Oct 9, 2012 at 12:35 AM

    Show and prove Amare

  4. kavika6 - Oct 11, 2012 at 11:45 PM

    Do you think hakeem taught him how to take five steps and get away with it? That was his specialty.

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