Comments on: NBA Players union to file grievance over new flopping rules

By: dysraw1

dysraw1 — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 17:16:50 +0000

i really hate flopping it takes all the integrity out of the game, when i played if you got knocked down you really got knocked down. these days guys are flying all over that were barely touch its comical

By: thraiderskin

thraiderskin — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 15:18:07 +0000

I’m just glad the association is trying to get rid of MOST of the flopping. I’m not a huge BB fan, but nothing makes me change the channel faster, even in the playoffs, then when grown men flop to the ground like they just took an 80′s Tyson uppper-cut.

By: honkerdawg

honkerdawg — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 15:01:08 +0000

Typical NBAers, if you don’t flop you have nothing to worry about, if you done, DON’T! Otherwise you pay for acting. Get real guys you’re not that good anyway and fans are getting tired of ALL the antics including the NBAPA grievance filings

By: ajpurp

ajpurp — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 04:54:32 +0000

The problem with in game techs for flopping is that it would raise the issue with refereeing incompetence that the league doesn’t want, they’re trying to incentivize players not to do it in the first place. The last thing they want is more discretion in the refs hands to influence the outcome of a game. The NBA and, most leagues, are very conscious of this after Sir Don Bets A Lot. If a tech could be called and the ball turned over its simply too much discretion for a very very subjective discretionary call a ref would have to make. Plain and simple, actual smart move by Stern for once with all the public outcries and negative image of the league as fixing games or turning WWE. Good rule, best alternative to more stringent flopping rules that would either influence outcomes or be largely ignored like the “Paul Pierce Rule”, offensive player throwing shoulder into another after getting them in the air, it’s illegal yet Pierce does it endlessly.

By: badintent

badintent — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 02:48:02 +0000

Yeah, it’s hard to survive on a $3 million dollar raise.BH should change his name to Sir BS.Pathetic when the US Prez has to call you out in the union/owner talks.

By: hardballtalkusername

hardballtalkusername — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 02:28:50 +0000

Of course they are, the NBPA is headed by Derek Fisher (Sir flops-a-lot).

By: mogogo1

mogogo1 — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 02:21:32 +0000

The only reason the union is filing a grievance is because Billy Hunter needs to keep making his family rich off the players. (No doubt his kids and other relatives will be the ones filing the paperwork at hundreds of bucks per hour.) And if the majority of players have been supportive of the new rule, how can that not equate to the union being for it? Isn’t a union typically majority rule? (Except when Mr. Corruption is at the helm, like good ol’ Billy.)

By: lunasceiling

lunasceiling — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 02:06:22 +0000

A similar policy has begun to turn things around in soccer. Referees are now much more aggressive about issuing a yellow card for flopping (called “simulation” in the soccer world). A yellow card is a serious sanction, too…much more so than the pocket change (or NBA multi-millionaires) fines the NBA is talking. Two yellows equals a red and an ejection, forcing your team to play short-handed and being excluded from the next game. Too many yellows build up and you get another suspension.

It’s helping. Some players (and some leagues, where the refs are not as quick to book a player for flopping) are still pretty bad, but overall, the flopping has gone down a lot. No reason why significant penalties for flopping can’t clean up the NBA, too.

By: manchestermiracle

manchestermiracle — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 00:19:31 +0000

After-the-fact fines are not the solution here. The league could have easily addressed this by simply adopting the international rule: Call a technical on obvious acts. But then, the NBA has always had a problem with international rules that make sense.