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Knicks could be oldest team in NBA history, watch a lot of Matlock

Oct 2, 2012, 3:14 PM EDT

Knicks Media Day Basketball AP

Stop saying that the Knicks bench walked the earth with the early dinosaurs. Let’s not blow this out of proportion. There is no way Kurt Thomas was on the earth during the Triassic era walking around with Nothosaurs. Maybe like the Crustaceous Period with the Triceratops, but no earlier.

Knick age jokes — “What was it like to climb the ladder and take the ball out of the peach basket? — will be all the rage this season because the Knicks are going to be old. Historically old. They have added this summer Jason Kidd (age 39), Kurt Thomas (39), Marcus Camby (38), Argentinian “rookie” Pablo Prigioni (35) and maybe Rasheed Wallace (38, but he has not officially signed practiced with the team yet).

Or, look at it this way, courtesy the Wall Street Journal:

The 2012 Knicks will be almost five years older than they were last year, when the average player was 27 years and 300 days old. Assuming Wallace signs, their top 13 players would be, on average, 32 years and 240 days old—the oldest team in NBA history, according to Stats LLC. No team has ever gotten so much older from one season to the next.

Coaches tend to be okay with this and so do some GMs — they trust that age, that veteran savvy. They trust those guys to make good decisions.

But when Thaddeus Young and Nick Young come off the Sixers bench and blow right around those old Knicks legs for a dunk, the jokes are not going to be as funny. A few veterans on the bench makes sense, but that much is going to come back and bite them.

  1. damp1015 - Oct 2, 2012 at 3:25 PM

    They can blow by them, but will they be winning at that time? I mean, there are several teams out there who are not the youngest and are top tier and one is the Champion. If I’m not mistaken, the top oldest teams are Knicks, Heat, Celtics & Spurs. Maybe it should play out first before everyone doubts this roster.
    I’m not saying they are winning the Championship, but they are going to contend alot more than the past years. It will go past the 1st round and possibly 2nd.

    • gepsep - Oct 2, 2012 at 4:01 PM

      Mavericks and the Lakers are old too…if watched closely, The Knicks, Spurs, Heat, Lakers and Mavs are all older than the Celtics.
      Just hate that the six oldest team is called old. So why isnt the 30 oldest team called old??

      • zerole00 - Oct 2, 2012 at 5:40 PM

        You can’t compare the Knicks to the Spurs. The Spurs’ “big three” have been together for the better part of a decade, they have defined roles and execute to near perfection, they have one of the best coaches in basketball history, and their GM is amazing.

        The Celtics are similar to the Spurs in these categories, but at a lesser level.

        I’m not a Lebron fan, but he honestly trumps most setbacks the Heat encounter.

      • zerole00 - Oct 2, 2012 at 5:41 PM

        My bet is they’re knocked out in the first round if they go against Chicago or Miami.

  2. dysraw1 - Oct 2, 2012 at 3:41 PM

    here we go the media thinks the Knicks are too old, oh well lets just pack it in right now

  3. ric80baby - Oct 2, 2012 at 4:06 PM

    The media hate on the Knicks is ridiculous. The Celtics had basically the same model when they got KG & Ray Allen. PJ Brown, Sam Cassell, & James Posey were key on that bench….& were huge contributors to that championship run. Young teams don’t win championships in the NBA. This is the correct formula for the Knicks. Thier best players are in their prime (Melo, Chandler & Amare)….the young players are all specialist (Jr smith, Shump Brewer) & the older vets are there for depth & locker room strength (kidd, camby & Wallace). The hate will stop by February when the Knicks are tied for 1st with the Heat…watch.

  4. nycalldayz - Oct 2, 2012 at 8:01 PM

    These guys are as old as my Biggie Smalls “Ready to Die” CD.

  5. bux1022 - Oct 2, 2012 at 10:24 PM

    Chicago is done! I’m not buying Rose’s health at all! Their bench is old an the Knicks starting 5 are fine! Let’s not forget with Chandler and Camby the Knicks have the best 5 combo in the league! Period! Old= 6 fouls a piece! With Wallace and Thomas you might get your head knocked off after a Philly chump blows right by them! Who wouldn’t want J Kidd as your pack up pg!! C’ mon man, stop the hate!

  6. bux1022 - Oct 2, 2012 at 10:28 PM

    Forgot about Sheed! He will definitely knock your head off in the paint, then blaze one for the nation, while listening to gimme the loot! NYK FOR LIFE!

  7. money2long - Oct 3, 2012 at 12:05 AM

    *joke idea stolen from key n peele*

    the guys on the knicks are so old, in school when they were in history class, they just wrote down what they were doing.

  8. doublezero74 - Oct 3, 2012 at 12:15 AM

    @gepsep
    “Mavericks and the Lakers are old too…if watched closely, The Knicks, Spurs, Heat, Lakers and Mavs are all older than the Celtics.
    Just hate that the six oldest team is called old. So why isnt the 30 oldest team called old??”

    What the hell are you saying? You no write words so good

  9. passerby23 - Oct 3, 2012 at 2:25 AM

    The age thing for the Knicks is way overblown. Of those 5 guys mentioned, Kurt Thomas will be lucky to see 5 minutes a game, and that 5 minutes will be used to commit a hard foul or grab a board. Or, he splits time with Rasheed. No one will be asking either one of those guys to play more than 10 minutes a game unless there are serious injuries. Neither one of these guys is going to be asked to shut down Andrew Bynum.

    How about Camby? He’s shown he still has life.

    Prigioni? He’s the third PG behind Kidd and Felton (and maybe even Shumpert when he comes back, if they wanted). He is older and has had a long career, but he also doesn’t have all the NBA mileage on him.

    Then there’s Kidd. I will concede his age has to be something of a concern, but he did average 11.5, 6, and 6 in the 4 playoff games against OKC last year. Not bad for a 38 year old. He’s maintained his body over the years.

    The Knicks’ best defensive perimeter players (Brewer, Shumpert) are still young. Bottom line is the Knicks are in it to win it this year and all of those old players are backups. They can add youth next year.

  10. passerby23 - Oct 3, 2012 at 2:27 AM

    The season needs to start so PBT can find some new stories that don’t involve:

    a) More talk about how old the Knicks are;
    b) More talk about how deluded the Nets are for talking championship;
    c) More talk about how the Celtics overpaid for Jeff Green;
    d) More talk about how the only contenders are Miami, OKC, and LA.

  11. hartdaddy - Oct 3, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    Carmelo Anthony-28
    Amare Stoudemire-29
    Tyson Chandler-30
    JR Smith-27
    Raymond Felton-28
    Ronnie Brewer-27
    Steve Novak-29
    Iman Shumpert-22

    Oh, keep thinking their old…I hope teams are prep. to play Kurt Thomas & not Melo come game day. I hope Nick Young is getting his game ready to play against Kidd & not Brewer or JR, I pray that teams focus on shutting down Prigonoli & not Novak. & I’m hoping guys underestimate Chandler & Camby’s impact in the paint.

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