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Wade said it was “weird” for Heat to be villains, get booed

Sep 14, 2012, 12:49 PM EDT

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Sometimes when you are on inside you don’t get the vision of how the outside world sees you.

That certainly was the case with the Miami Heat, where some of the players seemed taken aback by the vitriol that came their way after LeBron James announced where he was taking his talents. They became the cowboys in the black hats to most of America. (The Heat front office seemed to embrace that role.)

Dwyane Wade was one of those surprised guys, Wade told Maxim magazine in an interview (hat tip to SLAM).

It was weird. I mean, I’d never been booed before! And I felt like we’d done something unselfish, so for fans to think we’d done something bad was indescribable.

From the inside, they can rightly say they did what fans always say they want — the stars took less money for the sake of the team as a whole. And superstar teams have been the cornerstone of basketball forever — what do you think the dominant 1960 Bill Russell Celtics were? Hall of Famers gather together. Always have, always will.

But from the outside it was different. The fact that the players controlled the process and teams had to come to them — that labor had and used the power, not management — seemed to really disturb some people.

But mostly it was the hubris — LeBron’s ill-conceived “Decision” show followed by the televised pep rally with its promise of “not one, not two, not three…” championships. All the way to seven. Combine all of it together and it was easy to hate the Heat.

The tide is turning a little there — the Heat aren’t the good guys outside of Miami, but the level of hatred toward them subsided, particularly after a title. We as a nation forgive winners (whether they deserve it or not).

But from the outside, it wasn’t hard to see what Wade couldn’t understand from the inside.

  1. tannethrill - Sep 14, 2012 at 12:56 PM

    They’re booing because Wade wasn’t unselfish for their team.

  2. scalfor3 - Sep 14, 2012 at 1:10 PM

    the 60s celtics were assembled through the draft and a few trades. it wasn’t russell scheming to team up with his all star buddies to make it easier to beat LA and philly

    • Kurt Helin - Sep 14, 2012 at 3:02 PM

      So it is the players having power and control over their careers that bothers you?

      • eventhorizon04 - Sep 14, 2012 at 4:15 PM

        It bothers him if the players don’t choose to play for his team.

      • passerby23 - Sep 14, 2012 at 5:59 PM

        It’s not the power, it’s the decision that bothers people. Worse than the decision was the egotistical celebration. Worse than the egotistical celebration is the complete ignorance about why people boo them. It takes a special kind of ignorance to not get that.

        I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wanting to play with great players and form a “super team,” but a) when you anoint yourself 8 consecutive championships before you’ve played a game, and b) give up on carrying a franchise as the best player in the league where other great players come to you just reeks of “if I can’t beat ‘em, I’ll join ‘em.” The super competitive greats (Bird, Jordan, Magic, Stockton, Malone, Barkley, Ewing, Garnett, etc.) would almost certainly have shown much more humility if they formed a “super team.”

        Oh, Lebron and co. apologized for all that, you say? Sure, I would apologize to save face too after I rubbed everyone the wrong way and my agent told me it was a good idea to publicly apologize.

        There’s a saying that I like that goes, “I can’t hear you over what you’re doing.”

      • scalfor3 - Sep 15, 2012 at 1:33 PM

        i never said that, kurt. obviously player movement and free agency is a good thing, but the players do have too much power. the fact that dwight howard not only got away with, but ultimately got rewarded for how he acted in orlando is messed up.

        they aren’t perfect, but football is a better model. whats the point of a salary cap in basketball if teams don’t have to adhere to it?

    • thenmoveback - Sep 14, 2012 at 4:46 PM

      The 60′s C are what u are comparing the Heat to? How about the 2000′s C who gave the heat the idea to join forces. So quickly u forget how Paul pierce called ray Allen and kg so they could team up and win a championship which they couldn’t win on their own.

      • passerby23 - Sep 17, 2012 at 6:58 PM

        Pierce didn’t “call” Ray Allen and KG, those players came to Boston via trade because of Danny Ainge. And I don’t think Allen or Pierce were ever in the top 5 players in the league discussion the way Lebron and Wade are.

      • Kurt Helin - Sep 18, 2012 at 8:52 AM

        Actually, Allen came in a trade but KG had to agree to an extension to get the deal done and both PP and Allen called and recruited him.

  3. dysraw1 - Sep 14, 2012 at 1:32 PM

    in fairness to the Heat in theory what they did could and should be considered unselfish, however it was the bragging an calling themselves instant champs that place them in a bad light, not to mention Lebron crapping on his home town. which only brought more backlash. being a Knick fan i hated it because yes i wanted Chris to sign with us. putting player together to contend for a title is hard, so a lot of folks see these guys uniting as cheating. but i won’t be a hater,we will beat them just as they are

    • eventhorizon04 - Sep 14, 2012 at 4:33 PM

      That’s all fair.

      Chris Bosh gave an interview in which he said the Knicks were “under the radar” and that he hated that nobody was talking about them because “they’re gonna be a really good team.”
      http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/backpage/heat_bosh_knicks_gonna_be_very_good_FPMsopiloHFVF0O6ptxtaO

      And I agree with Bosh. With Chandler and Camby, the Knicks can put a very good defensive center on the floor 48 minutes a game (Chandler 30, Camby 18). Shumpert is a good defensive 2-guard. If Felton, Melo, and Stoudamire buy into the defensive system (and they seemed to do so towards the end of last year), Knicks can be a very good defensive team.

      On the offensive end, Melo and Stat still have to learn how to coexist, but if they do, they can do some damage in the playoffs.

      • passerby23 - Sep 14, 2012 at 6:02 PM

        It all comes down to the last sentence you posted. Can they be more of a free-flowing offensive team effectively utilizing Melo and Amare? Their defense is plenty good enough. If it’s stand-around-and-watch-Melo ball, they’ll get about as far as they did last year.

      • dysraw1 - Sep 14, 2012 at 7:20 PM

        saw it but still

      • dysraw1 - Sep 14, 2012 at 7:20 PM

        saw it but still

  4. cantonbound13 - Sep 14, 2012 at 1:32 PM

    Nobody accused Wade of being smart.

    • eventhorizon04 - Sep 14, 2012 at 4:29 PM

      The same can be said about you.

      • cantonbound13 - Sep 14, 2012 at 5:46 PM

        Awe.. Did I touch a nerve with the sensitive Heat fan?

  5. farvefromover - Sep 14, 2012 at 2:01 PM

    f word the Miami Heat

    • thenmoveback - Sep 14, 2012 at 4:49 PM

      Get used to it. Because ur gonna be f wording the Heat for the next 5 years at least

  6. teedraper - Sep 14, 2012 at 2:03 PM

    that labor had and used the power, not management — seemed to really disturb some people
    ———————–

    Exactly but The “take orders bc I said so son” days are OVER! Get over it people

  7. bearsstillsuck - Sep 14, 2012 at 2:58 PM

    I still hate the heat, for what it’s worth. Why not put up a poll on here to see how many readers still hate the heat?

  8. nokoolaidcowboy - Sep 14, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    Lebron came along with his circus and Wade…stepped aside like a little punk. This was his team before Lebron came along so why not tell him to chill a little? Or speak up and let your fans know it’s all good and inject a little humility into the situation?

    No Wade, you gave the keys to the Cadillac and you got your championship. Sold your soul, made your bed, deal with it!

  9. bearsstillsuck - Sep 14, 2012 at 3:24 PM

    Don’t get your panties in a bunch Kurt, I’m a celtics fan, so I’ll hate the heat no matter who plays for them.

  10. lakerluver - Sep 14, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    Man, I’m tired of Wade said this, Wade said that!!…..How bout working on your inconsistent outside shot and shutting up!!

    • eventhorizon04 - Sep 14, 2012 at 4:28 PM

      A Kobe fan talking about Wade having an “inconsistent” outside shots?

      You do realize that when people say, “Kobe’s field goal percentage in 2011 was 42%” they weren’t talking about his 3-point field goal percentage, right?

      Let me put it this way: If Wade being a career 29% 3-point shooter means he shouldn’t do any TV interviews because his shooting is so inconsistent, then Kobe (a career 33% 3-point shooter, whose overall efficiency nose-dived last year) shouldn’t have done interviews this summer either.

    • cantonbound13 - Sep 14, 2012 at 5:48 PM

      Wade is working on the most important part of his game, flopping & complaining.

  11. zerole00 - Sep 14, 2012 at 4:35 PM

    Meh I liked Wade prior to 2011, and I would cheered the Heat on because at the end of the day – Bosh, James, and Wade are great basketball players. However, the “Decision” show was a narcissism at its finest, and the pep rally was way too arrogant. I mean, it sounds ridiculous in of itself, but then I saw the YT video of it and…wow.

  12. lakerluver - Sep 14, 2012 at 4:55 PM

    I’ll put Kobe’s career up against Wade’s 365 days a year, 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week!! By the time Wade gets Kobe age he will be a role player because his game is nowhere near as fundamentally sound as Kobe’s.

    • passerby23 - Sep 14, 2012 at 6:07 PM

      I’m a fan of neither one, but I agree with you. Wade’s injuries and physical rim-driving game have really begun to take a toll on his body too. I could see the wear and tear really limiting his game in a few years because – when you lack the explosiveness to blow by and jump over people – you need to rely on outside shooting. That’s what Kobe has done – he’s adapted his game as he’s aged, much like Jordan did. I don’t think Wade will do the same.

  13. lakerluver - Sep 14, 2012 at 4:58 PM

    @thenmoveback
    Dude, the Heat have “one hit wonder” written all over them! I bet you weren’t so cocky when they were facing elimination in Boston, were you?! You bandwagon Heat “fans” are a joke!!!

  14. gaykegayden - Sep 14, 2012 at 5:14 PM

    @thenmoveback

    Oh yeah I totally remember Garnett and Allen joining the Celtics as free agents. Wait a second, that’s not how it happened, is it?

    • passerby23 - Sep 14, 2012 at 6:09 PM

      Lebron and Wade are (or at least were) top 5 players in the league when they signed, and Bosh a top 20 player. I don’t think the same case can be made about Boston’s Big 3. Garnett, you could MAYBE make the argument for top 5 in 2008, but Pierce and Allen were never on Lebron and Wade’s level, nor did they form a “Super Team” via free agency.

    • thenmoveback - Sep 14, 2012 at 10:40 PM

      No they werent FA’s but they both demanded trades out of their former teams. Makes it seem worse then leaving as a free agent. At least a FA holds up his end of the contract and plays the amount of years in the city he signed with.

      • phaden27 - Sep 15, 2012 at 11:22 AM

        We can get into any amount of arguments as to whether KG “did his time” in Minny. I concede as a Celtics fan that both what the C’s did in 08 and the Heat did two years ago is all fair play. Tired of this “no, noooo, loyalty” talk, if KG didn’t think Pierce and the C’s were retooled this year I’m sure he would have been long gone to. At te end of the day it’s about the metal around the meat on your fingers. My fellow Celtics fans would do best to remember that.

      • passerby23 - Sep 17, 2012 at 7:05 PM

        You can demand a trade – and even one to a contender – but you don’t have enough clout to say “I’m only going to Boston, and only if Ray Allen also agrees to be traded there.” It worked out because Boston was an awful team with draft picks to deal and both KG and Ray Allen were franchise players on two declining teams who needed overhauling.

        Lebron was on a perennial contender in which guys would’ve come to him. He just didn’t seem like a guy who wanted that weight on his shoulders.

  15. dwirk - Sep 14, 2012 at 5:47 PM

    People don’t care that lebron wade and bosh teamed up its the way the entire situation was handled. Lebron and the “decision” the pep rally coming out of the floor with smoke and last but not least “not 1 not 2 not 3……….

  16. cantonbound13 - Sep 14, 2012 at 5:51 PM

    You have 3 arrogant guys that couldn’t lead a team to a championship come together, not much of a story here.

    • thenmoveback - Sep 14, 2012 at 10:54 PM

      Wade already had a ring and a finals MVP, did u just start watching Bball last year?

      • cantonbound13 - Sep 15, 2012 at 6:51 AM

        Thanks to Shaq

  17. paulhargis53 - Sep 14, 2012 at 5:54 PM

    Pay no mind to lakerluver. He’s a 39 year old man that is madly in love with Kobe Bryant.
    He knows nothing about basketball. All he wants to do is spew garbage that he cannot back up. He doesn’t even know anything about his team prior to Magic Johnson. Hes a pretty dim bulb.

    Every team had to have a loser like him for a fan. Unfortunately, we have to deal with him and Bozosforall on this site.

    Just rip him a new one, he’s impervious to embarrassment. Daily on here, me makes a complete ass out of himself. He gets verbally beaten down, yet comes back for more.

  18. rooney24 - Sep 14, 2012 at 8:56 PM

    Get used to being the villain, Wade. As long as you have the Big 3, and are winning, you will be hated by many. You can let it bother you, or you can learn to relish that role.

  19. rodge1 - Sep 14, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    All of the comments are hilarious. Then you(s) wonder why you’re called hater(s). I know how you feel, I too hated the best teams in the league until there were no teams better than mine. Be patient haters, success is cyclical.

    • scalfor3 - Sep 15, 2012 at 1:29 PM

      lol i dont wonder why i’m called a hater. i’m a hater because i hate the heat and their “big 3.” its pretty simple.

      what doesn’t make sense is calling anyone who disagrees with you a “hater” and assuming that they have no logical reason to dislike your team and/or its players. because lebron and wade have done plenty to earn their “villain” status

  20. dwirk - Sep 14, 2012 at 11:02 PM

    Can’t believe I’m defending lebron but he gave Cleveland 7 years to surround him with enough help and the best they could do was Larry Hughes and Mo
    Williams. Can’t fault the guy for taking less money to win a title

  21. Miami305 - Sep 15, 2012 at 12:52 AM

    Miami Heat 2012 NBA Champions. Nuff’ said.

  22. gaykegayden - Sep 15, 2012 at 4:16 AM

    @thenmoveback

    No. In fact, Garnett rejected a trade to the Celtics that same offseason, only to accept after the Allen deal was done. My memory is impeccable, neither of those trades was forced. I beg you to prove me wrong. It must feel good to make up stuff and ride with it, no?

    • thenmoveback - Sep 15, 2012 at 8:46 AM

      Haha keep living in ur dreamland. So Those 3 didn’t talk to each other or work the trades to get what they want ? Yeah Kevin rejected the trade at first, but that was because he wanted to make sure Ray was going too. They dictated where they wanted to play, kg wasn’t going to another sub .500 team that was for sure.

  23. mgavin78 - Sep 15, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    Wade they were not booing you they were booing King James.

  24. loungefly74 - Sep 20, 2012 at 8:01 AM

    when you get booed…that is when you know you are good.

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