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Video: Jordan and Kobe going shot for shot

Aug 28, 2012, 2:52 PM EST

This video was obviously put together by a Kobe Bryant fan (it comes via Bleacher Report). After a shmaltzy introduction it matches Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant shot for shot. And it’s interesting.

It confirms what we already knew — that Kobe clearly patterned his game after Jordan. They like the same spots on the floor, have some of shots in their repertoire, and are both deadly scorers. Both savor the big moments.

And if you want to make the case that Kobe is a better pure scorer than Jordan, you can. It’s a valid argument to make, although Jordan’s career shooting percentages were higher.

But when you look at the advanced stats you see Jordan had the better all-around game — he got more rebounds, dished a higher percentage of assists and did so while using a higher percentage of the offense. That was always the most amazing statistics about Jordan — he kept up that crazy efficiency while using a third of his team’s possessions. You knew he would get the ball but he still made you pay.

Kobe is still one of the all-time NBA greats. He is as close to Jordan as anyone has gotten sense, and we are lucky to get to see him play. He deserves his status as icon of the game. But he is not Jordan.

  1. paulhargis53 - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:05 PM

    Sorry to burst your bubble, I don’t own a recliner. I also don’t drink during the week.

    No one is saying that Kobe isn’t ONE of the best ever, top 10. He’s just not THE BEST ever.
    He’d start on the dream team huh? Over Jordan? You’re a tool and so is Magic, IF he actually said that.
    This is why a lot of people can’t stand you on this site. You want to have your opinion, but you don’t want others to have theirs. You’re a hypocritical biased homer.
    Jordan was better across the board, offensively,& defensively.
    The stats, awards and mvps bear that out.
    But, since he wasn’t a laker, you can’t accept that. That Madam is what’s mind boggling. Facts staring you in the face and you deny, deny, deny.

  2. scalfor3 - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    one thing you have to admire about kobe even if you hate him (as i do): it takes massive balls to model your career that much after jordan and is really impressive that he pulled it off. even though he isn’t jordans equal (no one is), he became one of the 10, maybe even 5 greatest players to ever play

  3. lakerluver - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:12 PM

    @cosanostra71, they seem to only remember the 6 championship years. I’ve NEVER once said Kobe is better than MJ. Read my comments. But some of these guys make MJ out to be bigger than life and refuse to acknowledge Kobe’s career achievements. On one hand they say Kobe never won without Shaq, but MJ never won without Pippen. The season after MJ 1st retired the Bulls made it to the 7th game of the Eastern Conf. Finals and Pippen was a MVP candidate in the regular season. But some of these clowns act like MJ won 6 titles all by himself. Pippen and Rodman were both HOF’ers and Grant was very close to that status. Furthermore, the Bulls didn’t win JACK until Magic, Bird and Isiah all got old.

  4. sidneyz - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:13 PM

    If u look at stats, neither Jordan or Kobe can be considered the best who ever played. That honor belongs to the one and only Wilt Chamberlain. No one has ever even come close to averaging 50 points and 27 rebounds for an entire season! Not even close

  5. chadinkc30 - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:17 PM

    I agree that It’s Jordan then Kobe, but I have to wonder how old most of you are…Jordan was a complete ball hog too! He just didn’t have the haters that Kobe has

  6. tcclark - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:08 AM

    Wow this is crazy! In Kobe’s 16 year NBA career, while running the exact same offense, coached by the exact same coach, playing the exact same role, kobe had some turn around jumpers that looked like turn around jumpers that Jordan made. INSANE!!!! And that reverse lay-up was crazy! how did they end up both having a camera man on the baseline for that? They NEVER have those. Plus how many other people can even make a reverse lay-up? two? three? and then that fade away jumper? Kobe was clearly copying that from Jordan. I’ve never been able to see anyone else do that. No one else even tries. The elbow is Jordan’s spot.

    • tcclark - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:16 AM

      for those of you who have trouble reading sarcasm, this was sarcasm. Why is this starting a Kobe vs. Jordan debate? Are Jordan and Kobe the only people in the world that have made reverse lay-ups? Kobe’s played for 16 years in the exact same offense as Jordan for most of those years. Of course they’re going to have similar spots on the floor. That’s where the gaps in the defense are.

      Is this about shooting form? like they have similar form so this is crazy? why is this a big deal? I could make a video showing Allen Iverson making every single one of these shots… maybe even the dunk. Does that mean that Allen Iverson was as great of a player as Jordan? Of course not, because it took Allen 30 shots a game to make those. I’d be impressed if these were iconic Jordan moments that Kobe was mimicking. Where is Kobe pushing off of Paul Milsap (i.e Bryon Russel) and hitting the jumper to beat the Jazz? Where’s Kobe playing with the Flu? Anyone who has played a perimeter position in the NBA has hit at least most of the shots that Jordan made in that video. The fact that Kobe did too, means nothing.

      • mytthor - Aug 29, 2012 at 11:42 AM

        If you have to explain the joke, don’t bother.

      • tcclark - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:23 PM

        I understand, i go by that rule, but many people on here would have read that and thought I was being serious. Some people just aren’t bright enough. after i wrote it I realized I may have needed to elaborate for those people who can’t read sarcasm.

  7. philtration - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:43 AM

    Kobe is a great player but Jordan was better.
    The Bleacher Report is geared to a bunch of 20 year-olds that don’t know @%$!* and some of the dumbest blogs on sports can be found right there.

  8. cramsinned - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:24 AM

    People tend to forget great players prior to Jordan because NBA hyped Jordan so much to make him as the face of basketball. Media also played a big part in making this hype. On 60s to 70s media isn’t really a big role to advertise great players.

    So we all know that to become greatest you’ll need to surpass Jordan, without including the names like KAJ, Oscar robertson, Bill russell, wilt chamberlain, jerry west etc. How can we say that Kobe is the number 2 greatest player behind Jordan, without considering Oscar Robertson who averaged almost a triple double in his career.

    Anyway, I’m not a kobe hater, I really appreciate his talent and skills, but no way he’ll be on my top 10 list

  9. frankyvito - Aug 29, 2012 at 7:18 AM

    I’m sure I could cut up videos with McGrady doing the same moves. This proves nothing.

  10. paulhargis53 - Aug 29, 2012 at 8:58 AM

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ycn-9455119

    It’s about a year old, but its the truth.

    Read it, learn it, live it.

    If you people want to quote Magic etc., there is a quote from Phil in there( who would know more than him?, he coached both).
    He states, “Take MJ out of it, its not fair to compare him to anyone.”
    Kobe barely makes the top 10 of all time.

    Lakersucker: You don’t have to come right out and say you think Kobe is goat, everyone knows that’s what you think, its blatantly obvious.

    Jesus dude, he’s barely the 3rd best ever guard the Lakers have had all time.

  11. davidly - Aug 29, 2012 at 9:53 AM

    The audio of the vid states that Bryant was outpacing Jordan in points and championships. Somebody needs to look up the word “pacing”. At no point in his career has this been the case.

    Then, later someone says that Bryant is a better shooter. By what standard?

    Kobe’s good, even great. But nowhere near as good as MJ.

    • sdlakerfan - Aug 29, 2012 at 11:36 PM

      http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/02/kobe-becomes-youngest-player-to-28000-points/

      i think by “outpacing” he meant by age. Kobe was in the NBA at 17, so he had a head starrt. But Kobe won championships earlier in career yrs too. Jordan clearly has been “outpaced” by Kobe in some regards.

      I’ll go with whatever Phil says. Would take Magic over Kobe. Jerry West, the greatest overall Laker ever, is a close comparison. But what if Kobe gets a couple more championships and finishes 1st or 2nd in all time points? Kobe’s not there but not done either.

      • davidly - Aug 30, 2012 at 9:50 AM

        But by comparing them at the same age, and given that Bryant started later, then Jorndan’s pace would be quicker, wouldn’t it?

        And if Kobe had the field goal percentage up to now what MJ averaged over his entire career, he would have already surpassed him on the point totals list. Again: Jordan outpaces Bryant.

      • davidly - Aug 30, 2012 at 9:51 AM

        Of course I meant “Bryant started earlier..”

    • laurence88 - Aug 30, 2012 at 1:31 AM

      Kobe and Jordan are good and great as well,,,they look like a twins the way they took jump shots and layup,.,,wooooooooooo,.Great kobe and Jordan No other players can compare….

  12. romo2dez88 - Aug 30, 2012 at 1:56 AM

    I don’t like Kobe or the lakers, hes always been one of my most hated players period. but one of my older co workers was going off about how it’s ridiculous to say Kobe is in the top 5 of all time, I think it’s ridiculous not to. The rings don’t lie, but when you have rings and numbers; you’re a legend. Respect.

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