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Video: Jordan and Kobe going shot for shot

Aug 28, 2012, 2:52 PM EDT

This video was obviously put together by a Kobe Bryant fan (it comes via Bleacher Report). After a shmaltzy introduction it matches Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant shot for shot. And it’s interesting.

It confirms what we already knew — that Kobe clearly patterned his game after Jordan. They like the same spots on the floor, have some of shots in their repertoire, and are both deadly scorers. Both savor the big moments.

And if you want to make the case that Kobe is a better pure scorer than Jordan, you can. It’s a valid argument to make, although Jordan’s career shooting percentages were higher.

But when you look at the advanced stats you see Jordan had the better all-around game — he got more rebounds, dished a higher percentage of assists and did so while using a higher percentage of the offense. That was always the most amazing statistics about Jordan — he kept up that crazy efficiency while using a third of his team’s possessions. You knew he would get the ball but he still made you pay.

Kobe is still one of the all-time NBA greats. He is as close to Jordan as anyone has gotten sense, and we are lucky to get to see him play. He deserves his status as icon of the game. But he is not Jordan.

  1. anotheryx - Aug 28, 2012 at 3:02 PM

    I got excited at the prospect of Jordan and Kobe getting trashed and talking about “kids these days…”
    Oh well, maybe another day.

    • skids003 - Aug 28, 2012 at 3:34 PM

      I don’t remember Jordan shooting his team out of so many games like Kobe does. I do think Kobe has a bigger ego than Jordan, even though Michael had one. But he could back his up. Kobe’s ego is too big, and he’s just not as wonderful as he thinks he is.

      • Mr. Wright 212 - Aug 28, 2012 at 3:53 PM

        Well I hope they allow you to have stem cell treatment, because your amnesia/Alzheimers has truly blocked out the truth.

      • deadeyedesign23 - Aug 28, 2012 at 7:47 PM

        And to think Steve Blake got 2 rings in spite of Kobe Bryant.

    • watermelon1 - Aug 28, 2012 at 6:21 PM

      I wasn’t even thinking about the title that way… until now. And I gotta say, that would have been awesome!

  2. hwatt - Aug 28, 2012 at 3:14 PM

    they also had the same coach running the same offense. So yeah Kobe is gonna look at what worked for Jordan since they were put in the same situation.

    Still a nice vid though

  3. teedraper - Aug 28, 2012 at 3:20 PM

    He’s better than Jordan. Jordan played dominated (the 90’s) in one of the weakest eras of the NBA.

    Jordan is not the GOAT! No one is!

  4. sun602 - Aug 28, 2012 at 3:28 PM

    Kobe is Jordan’s illegitimate son.

  5. itsthemelman82 - Aug 28, 2012 at 3:46 PM

    Hmmm… let’s see we are talking about an NBA were hand checking fouls weren’t called, players were more physical & a game that’s geared towards offense now. Oh, and let’s not forget Jordan took a year & a half to play baseball!!! Just stop it Kobe isn’t better than MJ, closest thing since but, he’s not Mike! We really need the season to start so I can stop seeing these daily comparisons between LBJ or Kobe & the G.O.A.T

    • thraiderskin - Aug 28, 2012 at 3:53 PM

      Jordan is the greatest… but in

  6. cosanostra71 - Aug 28, 2012 at 3:55 PM

    Part of the problem is separating the player from the legend with Jordan. Jordan the player is an absolute great in every sense of the term, but he also was built up through Nike and the media. Now that he’s been gone for a few years, we can use some selective memory, combined with the “legend” of MJ to make him into some untouchable, non-human player. It’s almost a little unfair to compare any active player to him because of this. I think this comparison will be more fair to Kobe (or anyone else) a few years after they retire, when we have an opportunity to forget some of the bad about him, and let his “legend” build a bit too. We tend to wax nostalgic for players, things were always better “back in the day”.

    • cosanostra71 - Aug 28, 2012 at 4:51 PM

      Not sure why this is getting so many thumbs down, but whatever. It’s illustrated perfectly earlier in the comments, where someone said that Jordan never “shot his team out of games”. As if Jordan was NEVER accused of that at any point in his career.

      • liamj55 - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:13 PM

        Jordan shot 49% for his career, Kobe Bryant 44%. That is a bigger difference than you realize. Jordan also did not shoot his team out games like Bryant has and will continue to do. Feel free to go back and watch the tapes. Thumbs down to you.

      • cosanostra71 - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:43 PM

        “Jordan also did not shoot his team out games like Bryant has and will continue to do”

        Well, I was never making a direct comparison of Kobe and Jordan like you seem to think, but if you believe that Jordan never was accused of shooting his team out of games, I wonder where you were for his earlier career.

  7. mitchem85 - Aug 28, 2012 at 4:08 PM


    “sense” makes no sense in the context you used it.

  8. phillyphann83 - Aug 28, 2012 at 4:12 PM

    nor is he Wilt

  9. dls612 - Aug 28, 2012 at 4:20 PM

    Everybody keep debating who’s better! Kobe mimic his game after Jordan! Sticking his tongue out to the fist pump ! Jordan is the best at his position! Can’t say either one is the best to play the game when there’s 4 other position!

  10. lakerluver - Aug 28, 2012 at 4:27 PM

    If you think MJ is better than Kobe that’s fine. We’re all entitled to our opinions. However, to try to deny Kobe’s greatness is just plain dumb. To say “Kobe shot his team out of games” shows a lack of basketball intelligence. How many times did he carry his team to victory? How many times did he keep his team in the game? Is Kobe better than MJ? Who knows. But his individual accomplishments, and rings, place him amongst the greatest players to ever play.

    • liamj55 - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:16 PM

      He has #2 all to himself. He can win 2 more titles and he will still be #2. My simple test is my eye test. I know what these eyes saw.

      • scalfor3 - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:17 PM

        “Is Kobe better than MJ? Who knows.”

        i know. he’s not

      • scalfor3 - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:18 PM

        magic and bird both better than kobe too

  11. connaniii - Aug 28, 2012 at 4:45 PM

    As great as Kobe is (one of the top 10 players of all time), alongside his majesty he’s merely a copycat!

  12. vstyle23 - Aug 28, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    I’ll admit that I hated Kobe because they always compared him to Jordan but as the latter years have gone on I’ve realized that Kobe is a killa!! He’s not Jordan but like it was stated before, “he’s probably the closest to him.

  13. eventhorizon04 - Aug 28, 2012 at 6:07 PM

    Jordan was more efficient offensively and defensively;
    and averaged more points, assists, AND rebounds;
    and won more titles, Finals MVPs, and regular season MVPs;
    and won Defensive Player of the Year;
    and played AGAINST Hall of Fame Centers (instead of WITH them);

    But yeah, the debate between Kobe and Jordan is REALLY close…right. (rolls eyes)

  14. watermelon1 - Aug 28, 2012 at 6:28 PM

    Everyone talks about stats, all-star appearances, etc.

    You you all keep failing to acknowledge that JORDAN TOOK TWO YEARS OFF and he’s still considered the greatest. He gave other players, both at that time and in the future, a chance to catch up to his greatness. They still couldn’t do it.

    Kobe didn’t take 2 years off during his NBA career, and he still couldn’t pull off the double three-peat. He still hasn’t gotten the same amount of rings. Oh, and he even started in the NBA earlier than Jordan.

    I mean, it’s not even close. Kobe is just Jordan’s wannabe son.

    If you want to say Kobe is the greatest at anything… he’s the greatest Jordan imitator. But at the end of the day, he’s still just an imitation… never the real thing.

    • nolanwiffle - Aug 29, 2012 at 10:21 AM

      Just to be clear, Jordan did not “take two years off.” He was suspended by David Stern for his gambling habit (conduct detrimental to the league). The public could not be privy to this as it could have killed the golden goose.

      • passerby23 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:35 PM

        I agree, I think it was a case of David Stern telling Jordan “Listen, why don’t you take some time off for a while. Go play baseball. Let this cool off and take care of what you need to do, but we can’t have this kind of attention. Once that happens, you can come back.”

        However, I think there are some interesting facts which separate Jordan from Kobe:

        – Jordan shot 51.5% and averaged 28.2 pts/game in his rookie season. That’s unheard of. Lebron didn’t come close to those rookie numbers. Kobe averaged 7.6 pts/game and shot 41.7% in his rookie year.

        – Kobe walked into a championship-caliber team, while Jordan carried a weak Bulls team when he entered the league.

        – Jordan played 15 seasons, two of which were the floundering Wizards years which can safely be written off, and one with a broken foot where he missed 63 games. He also retired prematurely in ’98. He still has 6 rings. Kobe has played 16 seasons with no major injuries on consistently good playoff teams and still only has 5 rings. All of those rings were obtained by having a dominant scoring big man, while Jordan never had one.

        – Jordan shot nearly 50% for his career, which, for his position, is incredibly efficient. Kobe has shot around 45%, which, while good, is a significant gap between the two.

        Mark Jackson can be heard calling Kobe the best ever after dropping 81 points. I’ve said this before: people tend to be enamored at the time and their memories fade. Scottie Pippen said the same thing about Lebron in the ECF Finals last year until he tanked against Dallas. Jim Boeheim said the same thing about Lebron in the Olympics. It’s not that close.

  15. lakerluver - Aug 28, 2012 at 7:19 PM

    @watermelon1, “not even close”? That’s a ridiculous statement. There are many longtime fans of the NBA, as well as former players, who say MJ’s not even close to Wilt. Or Oscar. Or Elgin. Or Russell. We’re all entitled to our opinions.

  16. paulhargis53 - Aug 28, 2012 at 7:30 PM

    You know Lakersucker, it would do yourself well to remember your last posting there, when you ridicule someone for having a differing opinion than yours, you hypocrite. You call melon out for a ridiculous statement, yet go on to say we all have a right to,an opinion…..

    You are such a loathsome person.

    • cosanostra71 - Aug 28, 2012 at 7:55 PM

      your obsession with this guy has reached dizzying heights. Literally every post I’ve seen you make relates to him.

  17. paulhargis53 - Aug 28, 2012 at 7:56 PM

    BTW melon, your statement wasn’t ridiculous.

  18. paulhargis53 - Aug 28, 2012 at 8:16 PM

    Careful coda, or you’re next.

    He’s an irritating twatwaffle. He deserves every bit of abuse he gets. He invites it.

    I can post whatever I like.

    P.S. I could care less what nameless faceless people like you think of me.

  19. lakerluver - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:18 PM

    I know of at least FIVE times “he didn’t shoot his team out of games”. That was in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2009, and 2010. In case you didn’t know, those were all FIVE seasons Kobe helped the LAKERS win an NBA title.

    • liamj55 - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:32 PM

      Listen youngin there was this man name Shaq on those first three teams. I don’t know if you know this but he was a pretty big deal. And YES it does matter that Kobe was not the focal point on those teams. MJ was always the focal point. Let me break down for you in a math equation MJ > Kobe FOREVER. Now run along and cop yourself one of those ugly white uniforms they wear on Sundays.

    • passerby23 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:39 PM

      Pretty sure the Spurs won in 2003. I think you meant to say 2000. Shaq won MVP in three of those finals and Kobe could never get back until Gasol came along and played at a championship level. When Gasol’s game dipped (in 2011 and 2012), guess what? Lakers don’t win. Now you throw in Dwight Howard? Not many reasons why they shouldn’t win now.

      MJ was the dominant star from Day 1, won every Finals MVP, and realistically could’ve won several regular season MVPs.

  20. lakerluver - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:32 PM

    @cosanostra71, let the poor guy have his “fun”. Obviously, this is the only enjoyment he has in his life. While he rambles on about nothing the rest of us will talk sports.

  21. isujames - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:34 PM

    @ skids003 well said.

  22. isujames - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:37 PM

    lakerluver = kobe’s love child.

  23. paulhargis53 - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:41 PM

    You just can’t let anything go without acknowledging me. You’re so weakminded.

    You fail to mention that Shaq carried those 1st 3 titles as MVP. Kobe was just along for the ride.

    Jordan 6 titles, 6 time finals MVP.
    Case closed.

  24. isujames - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:42 PM

    yes Mj did, two years out of the NBA during his prime because he wanted a new challenge, came back and his next full year they won again.

  25. lakerluver - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:51 PM

    I find it amazing that former/current coaches & players all overwhelmingly acknowledge Kobe’s place in NBA history as one of the all time greats. Barkley and Magic both went on record and said Kobe would’ve been on the “Dream Team” Magic even went as far as to say Kobe could’ve started on that team. Those are two of the greatest players EVER! But “Joe Blow” sitting in his LazyBoy with his smartphone and 7th alcoholic beverage of the day somehow knows more about basketball than they do. Absolutely mind boggling!!

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