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	<title>Comments on: Stan Van Gundy says Derrick Rose could be next star to bolt</title>
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		<title>By: scalfor3</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i think there still would be some &quot;they took the easy way out/jordan wouldn&#039;t have done that&quot; backlash, but nothing on the scale of how much hate they got. they really had no self-awareness during that whole process. lebron seemed genuinely surprised that it rubbed people the wrong way. cost of surrounding himself with yes-men]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think there still would be some &#8220;they took the easy way out/jordan wouldn&#8217;t have done that&#8221; backlash, but nothing on the scale of how much hate they got. they really had no self-awareness during that whole process. lebron seemed genuinely surprised that it rubbed people the wrong way. cost of surrounding himself with yes-men</p>
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		<title>By: isd87</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; But even the Bulls have looked around the landscape of the East and realized they need another star.&quot; The Bulls with one &quot;star&quot; have won more games and advanced further in the playoffs than the Knicks and Lakers two teams that have 2-3 All-Stars. Even the Heat with 2 Superstars and an All-Star have won less regular season games than the Bulls. The Mavericks had 1 star and now that one star has the same amount of rings as Lebron James, Carmelo Anthony, and Amare Stoudemire. You don&#039;t need multiple star or superstars to contend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; But even the Bulls have looked around the landscape of the East and realized they need another star.&#8221; The Bulls with one &#8220;star&#8221; have won more games and advanced further in the playoffs than the Knicks and Lakers two teams that have 2-3 All-Stars. Even the Heat with 2 Superstars and an All-Star have won less regular season games than the Bulls. The Mavericks had 1 star and now that one star has the same amount of rings as Lebron James, Carmelo Anthony, and Amare Stoudemire. You don&#8217;t need multiple star or superstars to contend.</p>
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		<title>By: jziii</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Rooting for management to take back control seems anti-freedom to me, but root for what you want.&quot;

Others have said it in this thread, but not all that clearly. I think you are missing the point, Kurt. What offends a lot of people is the &quot;rich-get-richer&quot; way these things happen. It&#039;s not anything close to an even playing field for all 30 teams, and the fans of most teams have little or no hope that their team will have a chance to compete with the big boys from year to year. (You can say that&#039;s because those teams have lousy management, which is partly true, but another part is the lack of depth of talent in the NBA right now.) And even if their team has a big star, they know that he may not stick around for long. It must be painful to be an Orlando Magic fan, seeing your franchise&#039;s two biggest superstars bail on you...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rooting for management to take back control seems anti-freedom to me, but root for what you want.&#8221;</p>
<p>Others have said it in this thread, but not all that clearly. I think you are missing the point, Kurt. What offends a lot of people is the &#8220;rich-get-richer&#8221; way these things happen. It&#8217;s not anything close to an even playing field for all 30 teams, and the fans of most teams have little or no hope that their team will have a chance to compete with the big boys from year to year. (You can say that&#8217;s because those teams have lousy management, which is partly true, but another part is the lack of depth of talent in the NBA right now.) And even if their team has a big star, they know that he may not stick around for long. It must be painful to be an Orlando Magic fan, seeing your franchise&#8217;s two biggest superstars bail on you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bullysix</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of speculation on what a player might do 5 years from now. I say 5 years from now Stan will have as much a hair as his brother. 

I find a lot of coaches who get handed the punk slip have become mouth wash speakers. They say some of the wildest sh*t, but how since he can predict Rose&#039;s future how about predicting his own. Where will be the next job he gets fired from, without sniffing a NBA title?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of speculation on what a player might do 5 years from now. I say 5 years from now Stan will have as much a hair as his brother. </p>
<p>I find a lot of coaches who get handed the punk slip have become mouth wash speakers. They say some of the wildest sh*t, but how since he can predict Rose&#8217;s future how about predicting his own. Where will be the next job he gets fired from, without sniffing a NBA title?</p>
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		<title>By: jimmymarlinsfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 02:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really? I bet most of the people of Akron are proud to be Lebron&#039;s home town]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? I bet most of the people of Akron are proud to be Lebron&#8217;s home town</p>
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		<title>By: celtics1297</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 01:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[94 Rockets]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>94 Rockets</p>
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		<title>By: celtics1297</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 01:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the celtics players in the 60s were all drafted/traded by auerbach.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the celtics players in the 60s were all drafted/traded by auerbach.</p>
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		<title>By: dlhouse18</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People said that about Lebron too.]]></description>
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		<title>By: itsonlyaspeedbump</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[itsonlyaspeedbump]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Rooting for management to take back control seems anti-freedom to me, but root for what you want.&quot;

Kurt, I don&#039;t even disagree with you, but you are circling very close to a nerve with that line.

Anyway, it&#039;s not surprising fans in general demonize players for leaving as free agents. Their loyalty is generally not to a player, but to a team. Management&#039;s interests in this regard line up with the fan&#039;s interests.  Looking objectively, we can say this behavior is not particularly fair to the player.  But I&#039;m certain someone reading this will swoop in and mention the amount of money players make, which apparently is supposed to excuse the treatment they receive.

I would only agree with Kurt when it comes to free agents. What &#039;Melo and Dwight did on the other hand...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rooting for management to take back control seems anti-freedom to me, but root for what you want.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kurt, I don&#8217;t even disagree with you, but you are circling very close to a nerve with that line.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s not surprising fans in general demonize players for leaving as free agents. Their loyalty is generally not to a player, but to a team. Management&#8217;s interests in this regard line up with the fan&#8217;s interests.  Looking objectively, we can say this behavior is not particularly fair to the player.  But I&#8217;m certain someone reading this will swoop in and mention the amount of money players make, which apparently is supposed to excuse the treatment they receive.</p>
<p>I would only agree with Kurt when it comes to free agents. What &#8216;Melo and Dwight did on the other hand&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: donrwells3</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chicago has a bad habit of not wanting to spend for championships.  They have never gone over the cap.
The Lakers are willing to pay $240 (or so) million dollars to make a run at a championship.

Being a Chicago fan, I wish that Reinsdorf would sell his team.  The &quot;House that Jordan Built&quot; has been in a constant state of flux since Reinsdorf broke up the luckiest squad to ever be slapped together.  He draws a full crowd with a cheap team because of the Jordan years.  He is a profit-only driven owner.  He will never overspend to win a championship yet he will never win a championship by not overspending.  
  
The Bulls may never win another championship under the ownership of Jerry Reinsdorf.  The legacy and the past championships of Michael Jordan (and co.) will ensure that Reinsdorf remains a very rich man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chicago has a bad habit of not wanting to spend for championships.  They have never gone over the cap.<br />
The Lakers are willing to pay $240 (or so) million dollars to make a run at a championship.</p>
<p>Being a Chicago fan, I wish that Reinsdorf would sell his team.  The &#8220;House that Jordan Built&#8221; has been in a constant state of flux since Reinsdorf broke up the luckiest squad to ever be slapped together.  He draws a full crowd with a cheap team because of the Jordan years.  He is a profit-only driven owner.  He will never overspend to win a championship yet he will never win a championship by not overspending.  </p>
<p>The Bulls may never win another championship under the ownership of Jerry Reinsdorf.  The legacy and the past championships of Michael Jordan (and co.) will ensure that Reinsdorf remains a very rich man.</p>
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		<title>By: kopy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kopy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 20:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those golden ages were great because everyone only had 5 TV channels so the league could easily highlight the best teams, and there weren&#039;t as many teams in the first place. It doesn&#039;t work as well when every major city has a team in their market, but most of them know they don&#039;t have a chance before the season starts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those golden ages were great because everyone only had 5 TV channels so the league could easily highlight the best teams, and there weren&#8217;t as many teams in the first place. It doesn&#8217;t work as well when every major city has a team in their market, but most of them know they don&#8217;t have a chance before the season starts.</p>
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		<title>By: icu84bs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[icu84bs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry about the redundancy in my last paragraph. I meant to delete the second &#039;After a contract expires in any other job you are free to look for work wherever you can find it.&#039; Cheers 8)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the redundancy in my last paragraph. I meant to delete the second &#8216;After a contract expires in any other job you are free to look for work wherever you can find it.&#8217; Cheers 8)</p>
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		<title>By: cantonbound13</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cantonbound13]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If LeBron didn&#039;t do the decision show.  If the Heat didn&#039;t throw that pre season party &amp; if those 3 didn&#039;t seem so arrogant through the whole free agency period, nobody would have been upset with their decision.  It is obvious they wanted to team up prior to the process but put on a show during &amp; after the whole process which rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.  Every player has the right to decide where they can play when they are a free agent.  Those guys were very unprofessional throughout the process &amp; it upset people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If LeBron didn&#8217;t do the decision show.  If the Heat didn&#8217;t throw that pre season party &amp; if those 3 didn&#8217;t seem so arrogant through the whole free agency period, nobody would have been upset with their decision.  It is obvious they wanted to team up prior to the process but put on a show during &amp; after the whole process which rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.  Every player has the right to decide where they can play when they are a free agent.  Those guys were very unprofessional throughout the process &amp; it upset people.</p>
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		<title>By: rajbais</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rajbais]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SVG will be correct. If Hakeem couldn&#039;t be a lifetime Rocket D-Rose likely won&#039;t be a lifetime Chicago Bull.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SVG will be correct. If Hakeem couldn&#8217;t be a lifetime Rocket D-Rose likely won&#8217;t be a lifetime Chicago Bull.</p>
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		<title>By: icu84bs</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The owner&#039;s hyprocrisy is the main problem here. They want to keep the star players as long as possible but shorten the max length of contracts each negotiation. If it were the NHL, LeBron (in Cleveland), Bosh (in Toronto) and Rose would be signed to 15 year extensions and going nowhere... Just saying you can&#039;t have it both ways. If you want the players to commit, the teams also have to commit. A teams&#039; commitment is exactly the length of the current contract., that should be the commitment expected from the player. No more, no less.

A secondary note: After a contract expires in any other job you are free to look for work wherever you can find it. As we fans are often told: &#039;Sports are a business&#039;. Why do fans in City A think a player should play in City A for their entire career (or as long as said fans want the player there)? After a contract expires in any other job you are free to look for work wherever you can find it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The owner&#8217;s hyprocrisy is the main problem here. They want to keep the star players as long as possible but shorten the max length of contracts each negotiation. If it were the NHL, LeBron (in Cleveland), Bosh (in Toronto) and Rose would be signed to 15 year extensions and going nowhere&#8230; Just saying you can&#8217;t have it both ways. If you want the players to commit, the teams also have to commit. A teams&#8217; commitment is exactly the length of the current contract., that should be the commitment expected from the player. No more, no less.</p>
<p>A secondary note: After a contract expires in any other job you are free to look for work wherever you can find it. As we fans are often told: &#8216;Sports are a business&#8217;. Why do fans in City A think a player should play in City A for their entire career (or as long as said fans want the player there)? After a contract expires in any other job you are free to look for work wherever you can find it.</p>
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		<title>By: pglive21</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This isn&#039;t really a good argument.  I mean the Mavs had Nowitzki and Kidd, who are both virtual locks to make the HOF.  However Kidd was not even a shell of his former self, even during the title run.  Just being a future HOF player doesn&#039;t mean they are &lt;i&gt;playing&lt;/i&gt; like a HOF player.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t really a good argument.  I mean the Mavs had Nowitzki and Kidd, who are both virtual locks to make the HOF.  However Kidd was not even a shell of his former self, even during the title run.  Just being a future HOF player doesn&#8217;t mean they are <i>playing</i> like a HOF player.</p>
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		<title>By: cantonbound13</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stan needs a hug.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan needs a hug.</p>
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		<title>By: magicbucs</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@jea1117... Agreed! Might as well just have 12 NBA teams.  ALL to big markets.  Screw all the fans.  Nba players and owners would be nothing without us fans

@lakerluver... Dwight was also one of those nice guys that Said he wants to only play for 1 team for a career.  If the bulls can&#039;t build a contender D rose will ask for a trade.  Adidas already gave him so much $ that he poops it.  He eventually is going to want a ring.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jea1117&#8230; Agreed! Might as well just have 12 NBA teams.  ALL to big markets.  Screw all the fans.  Nba players and owners would be nothing without us fans</p>
<p>@lakerluver&#8230; Dwight was also one of those nice guys that Said he wants to only play for 1 team for a career.  If the bulls can&#8217;t build a contender D rose will ask for a trade.  Adidas already gave him so much $ that he poops it.  He eventually is going to want a ring.</p>
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		<title>By: Fan On Fire_Maurice Barksdale</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fan On Fire_Maurice Barksdale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The players having leverage is a good thing for the players, but what about the fans?  You know, the people who really pay these players.  Just because it&#039;s the way it&#039;s always been done, doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s right.  

The NBA will always be inferior to the NFL as long as they assume that the way it&#039;s always been done is the best it can be done.  A Franchise tag, a hard salary cap, these things work in the NFL, and they give teams like the Green Bay Packers the ability to compete for championships, as opposed to the Milwaukee Bucks, a team that can&#039;t compete for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The players having leverage is a good thing for the players, but what about the fans?  You know, the people who really pay these players.  Just because it&#8217;s the way it&#8217;s always been done, doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s right.  </p>
<p>The NBA will always be inferior to the NFL as long as they assume that the way it&#8217;s always been done is the best it can be done.  A Franchise tag, a hard salary cap, these things work in the NFL, and they give teams like the Green Bay Packers the ability to compete for championships, as opposed to the Milwaukee Bucks, a team that can&#8217;t compete for them.</p>
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		<title>By: miamatt</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One problem is that parity just flat out isn&#039;t good for the league. Looking at past &quot;golden ages&quot;, Lakers vs. Celtics in the 80&#039;s was tremendous, and MJ&#039;s Bulls vs. the field was special as well. There is always a place for fresh faces and new teams like OKC, but the NBA is best served when storied franchises like the Lakers, Celtics, and even the Knicks are competitive. The NBA thrives off it&#039;s surperstars&#039; high profile performances like no other american professional sports league.

Smart general managers play to their advantages. In Miami that&#039;s Pat Riley laying his rings on the table, selling a culture of hard work and winning, and letting the weather/women/nightlife speak for themselves. That doesn&#039;t work in San Antonio or OKC, but they operate a different way that is no less successful in those respective cities, don&#039;t they? Unfortunately, many teams aren&#039;t run with the mindset of playing the cards they are dealt, they just settle for overpaying b-list stars, blow draft picks, and complain that the system isn&#039;t fair.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One problem is that parity just flat out isn&#8217;t good for the league. Looking at past &#8220;golden ages&#8221;, Lakers vs. Celtics in the 80&#8242;s was tremendous, and MJ&#8217;s Bulls vs. the field was special as well. There is always a place for fresh faces and new teams like OKC, but the NBA is best served when storied franchises like the Lakers, Celtics, and even the Knicks are competitive. The NBA thrives off it&#8217;s surperstars&#8217; high profile performances like no other american professional sports league.</p>
<p>Smart general managers play to their advantages. In Miami that&#8217;s Pat Riley laying his rings on the table, selling a culture of hard work and winning, and letting the weather/women/nightlife speak for themselves. That doesn&#8217;t work in San Antonio or OKC, but they operate a different way that is no less successful in those respective cities, don&#8217;t they? Unfortunately, many teams aren&#8217;t run with the mindset of playing the cards they are dealt, they just settle for overpaying b-list stars, blow draft picks, and complain that the system isn&#8217;t fair.</p>
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		<title>By: chasemoreau</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Derrick Rose?

He is not leaving Chicago.

He was born in Chicago, grew up in Chicago, it is home to him. During his draft day interview, he said he was happy because he was drafted by the Bulls because his family could come to games and also so he wouldn&#039;t be homesick. He grew up wanting to be a Bull, and now he is THE Bull. (To those who bring up Lebron, I can pretty much bet Lebron grew up wanting to be a Bull as well, he was just drafted by his local team.  The feelings were less mutual in that case)

Last December he signed a 5 year 95 Million dollar contact to stay with the Bulls.  In February, he got a 14 year extension to his Adidas contract, worth a reported 260 Million dollars.  Part of the reason he received the mega shoe deal was because of his MVP status, but a large part is that he has the first signature basketball shoe to make a dent in Nike&#039;s sales dominance on the streets of Chicago. Since the Air Jordan 1 in 1985, Nikes have dominated as the athletic shoe of choice in Chicago.  

More likely than Derrick Rose ever leaving Chicago, is that after this season when he is out with his injury, they gain good picks that they use to draft his superstar partner, or they swing the picks to trade for him.

Stan Van Gundy couldn&#039;t be more wrong about Derrick Rose leaving Chicago, and even if he wanted to, it is not happening until 2017 at the soonest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derrick Rose?</p>
<p>He is not leaving Chicago.</p>
<p>He was born in Chicago, grew up in Chicago, it is home to him. During his draft day interview, he said he was happy because he was drafted by the Bulls because his family could come to games and also so he wouldn&#8217;t be homesick. He grew up wanting to be a Bull, and now he is THE Bull. (To those who bring up Lebron, I can pretty much bet Lebron grew up wanting to be a Bull as well, he was just drafted by his local team.  The feelings were less mutual in that case)</p>
<p>Last December he signed a 5 year 95 Million dollar contact to stay with the Bulls.  In February, he got a 14 year extension to his Adidas contract, worth a reported 260 Million dollars.  Part of the reason he received the mega shoe deal was because of his MVP status, but a large part is that he has the first signature basketball shoe to make a dent in Nike&#8217;s sales dominance on the streets of Chicago. Since the Air Jordan 1 in 1985, Nikes have dominated as the athletic shoe of choice in Chicago.  </p>
<p>More likely than Derrick Rose ever leaving Chicago, is that after this season when he is out with his injury, they gain good picks that they use to draft his superstar partner, or they swing the picks to trade for him.</p>
<p>Stan Van Gundy couldn&#8217;t be more wrong about Derrick Rose leaving Chicago, and even if he wanted to, it is not happening until 2017 at the soonest.</p>
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		<title>By: dysraw1</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[so now SVG is swengali the all knowing look its obvious da Bulls are in for a rough patch, but things won&#039;t be by the start of the 2014 season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so now SVG is swengali the all knowing look its obvious da Bulls are in for a rough patch, but things won&#8217;t be by the start of the 2014 season.</p>
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		<title>By: svupper</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin Garnett comes to mind.. He gave Minny all he could, but understandable ended up leaving for a chance to get that ring..

I&#039;m a big Bulls and Rose fan, and right now i can&#039;t see that happening, but never say never..
I do understand how players might go Gollum for that ring, cause it is the most precious thing for an NBA superstar..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin Garnett comes to mind.. He gave Minny all he could, but understandable ended up leaving for a chance to get that ring..</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big Bulls and Rose fan, and right now i can&#8217;t see that happening, but never say never..<br />
I do understand how players might go Gollum for that ring, cause it is the most precious thing for an NBA superstar..</p>
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		<title>By: lakerluver</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the reasons why I&#039;m such a huge Rose fan is because he seems to be the type of superstar player who wants to be a part of building a championship with the team that drafted him. That being the case, I don&#039;t see him leaving the Bulls, unless they decide to trade him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the reasons why I&#8217;m such a huge Rose fan is because he seems to be the type of superstar player who wants to be a part of building a championship with the team that drafted him. That being the case, I don&#8217;t see him leaving the Bulls, unless they decide to trade him.</p>
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		<title>By: dls612</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are u the guy caught on tv burning LeBron&#039; s jersey?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are u the guy caught on tv burning LeBron&#8217; s jersey?</p>
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		<title>By: chicagosworth</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rose will not leave Chicago. He will want the satisfaction of winning it with (1) His childhood team (2) His City (3) to be able to really say he help build a championship team. Like Jordan but better, like Rose...Next up , The Rise of Rose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rose will not leave Chicago. He will want the satisfaction of winning it with (1) His childhood team (2) His City (3) to be able to really say he help build a championship team. Like Jordan but better, like Rose&#8230;Next up , The Rise of Rose.</p>
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		<title>By: cantonbound13</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stan Van Gundy looks like Ron Jeremy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan Van Gundy looks like Ron Jeremy.</p>
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		<title>By: asublimeday</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rose is a true hometown hero, not a turd like James or a drama queen like Howard. There is no smoke, no spark, no fire to this story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rose is a true hometown hero, not a turd like James or a drama queen like Howard. There is no smoke, no spark, no fire to this story.</p>
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		<title>By: lastdukestreetking</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Helin made way too big a deal about Rose signing his max extension after his rookie deal expired. But that&#039;s the way the CBA has been for a while. Player is only a restricted FA upon rookie contract expiration. LeBron signed his max extemsion with tha Cavs as Dwight did with the Magic. And they&#039;re gone now from those teams. It&#039;s when the extension expires that the player has the leverage. Four years sounds like a long time but it&#039;s not. With the more restrictive salary cap it takes only 1 bad contract on the roster to hamstring a team for a long time. Guys like Rose &amp; Durant will soon have their leverage and will use it if they don&#039;t think their teams are true champoinship caliber.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helin made way too big a deal about Rose signing his max extension after his rookie deal expired. But that&#8217;s the way the CBA has been for a while. Player is only a restricted FA upon rookie contract expiration. LeBron signed his max extemsion with tha Cavs as Dwight did with the Magic. And they&#8217;re gone now from those teams. It&#8217;s when the extension expires that the player has the leverage. Four years sounds like a long time but it&#8217;s not. With the more restrictive salary cap it takes only 1 bad contract on the roster to hamstring a team for a long time. Guys like Rose &amp; Durant will soon have their leverage and will use it if they don&#8217;t think their teams are true champoinship caliber.</p>
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		<title>By: rajbais</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree.

Chicago is a nice town, but the crowd is lame; not rambunctious or loud, and there&#039;s no star treatment that New York, Los Angeles, or Miami could give.

Our practice facility is in a typical suburb, the arena is good (but not luxurious), and the fans only come because they&#039;re not creative with their lives and don&#039;t figure out anything else to do.

Plus, this is a Bears, Cubs, and Blackhawks town. Despite the full capacities the fan types change regularly because Chicago is big enough to have revolving doors of fair weather fans. The majority of true Bulls fans are minorities, but all were poisoned with a lame ass culture where the only time you  should act &quot;out there&quot; is by drinking. Enthusiasm and refreshing candor is a crime in a Midwesterner&#039;s regular dialogue.

Plus, The boos during the opposing team&#039;s free throws are inexistent and we need a volume meter in the 4th quarter just to get the bare minimum fan screams.

We&#039;re terrible!

He deserves better fans and I hope he goes to L.A. when Kobe retires.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.</p>
<p>Chicago is a nice town, but the crowd is lame; not rambunctious or loud, and there&#8217;s no star treatment that New York, Los Angeles, or Miami could give.</p>
<p>Our practice facility is in a typical suburb, the arena is good (but not luxurious), and the fans only come because they&#8217;re not creative with their lives and don&#8217;t figure out anything else to do.</p>
<p>Plus, this is a Bears, Cubs, and Blackhawks town. Despite the full capacities the fan types change regularly because Chicago is big enough to have revolving doors of fair weather fans. The majority of true Bulls fans are minorities, but all were poisoned with a lame ass culture where the only time you  should act &#8220;out there&#8221; is by drinking. Enthusiasm and refreshing candor is a crime in a Midwesterner&#8217;s regular dialogue.</p>
<p>Plus, The boos during the opposing team&#8217;s free throws are inexistent and we need a volume meter in the 4th quarter just to get the bare minimum fan screams.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re terrible!</p>
<p>He deserves better fans and I hope he goes to L.A. when Kobe retires.</p>
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