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Mark Cuban is really pissed at Jason Kidd. I mean ticked.

Aug 21, 2012, 5:11 PM EDT

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Mark Cuban thought he had a fallback. The Mavericks were going to go hard after Deron Williams, but that might not work, the Nets were always in that picture (and really always in the lead).

But if D-Will didn’t work out — and he didn’t, he signed to stay in Brooklyn — then there was Jason Kidd. Cuban thought he had a deal there with a guy he could trust, a guy who was part of the Mavericks title team. Cuban thought he had a three year, $9 million locked in to keep Kidd.

Then Kidd backed out last minute and signed essentially the same deal with the Knicks.

Cuban is pissed. Still. His business sensibilities were offended, and his feelings were hurt. Here is what he said on ESPN Dallas Radio’s “Ben & Skin Show (via

“I was more than upset. I thought he was coming. I was pissed,” Cuban said. “J-Kidd is a big boy; he can do whatever he wants. But you don’t change your mind like that. That was … yeah. I’m sure I’ll get over it at some point, but as of now, I wouldn’t put J-Kidd’s number in the rafters.

“It hurt my feelings, period, because I felt that we had developed a relationship, and I thought that he was committed to the organization. It sure seemed that he was. I mean, J-Kidd was active in going out there and talking to Deron Williams the whole time. I guess it was more shocking and surprising than anything else.”

I’m sure Cuban has never left any of his business partners feeling this way. Well, except for the guy that sued him saying Cuban falsified the books for the Mavericks (a judge did toss that suit out). And there are probably a lot of other guys who feel Cuban stepped on them on the way to the top.

Cuban will eventually come around. Probably. But don’t expect Kidd’s number in the Dallas rafters anytime soon.

As for Deron Williams… that was business. No hard feelings there.

“I don’t want to pick on Deron Williams because he’s a great, great, great player, and so it’s not necessarily him, per se,” Cuban said. “The conversation we had going back and forth — and obviously the decision was to go for him — but the conversation was, ‘OK, once you add $17.1 million in salary to what we’d have with Dirk and Trix (Shawn Marion), then what do you do?’ That’s your squad. And it’s not just your squad for this year. It’s your squad for next year other than the $3.3 million mini midlevel.

“So that was a challenge that we had because we want to win, and everybody talks about Dirk’s window. Well, not only would it have been difficult to add players, then it also would have been difficult to trade players, and in reality that was the same problem that Deron had. Because he looked and saw the same thing and said, ‘OK, now what are you going to do?'”

  1. spellingcopfather - Aug 21, 2012 at 5:15 PM

    Guy is acting like a spoiled rich kid, grow up!!!

    • sellahh - Aug 21, 2012 at 7:27 PM

      17 spoiled rich kids and counting :-) (enjoy pressing thumbs down)

    • 1972wasalongtimeago - Aug 21, 2012 at 10:32 PM

      It was like a punch in the face. Oh wait, I thought this was an article about Joumanna.

      • cantonbound13 - Aug 22, 2012 at 7:57 AM

        You really need some new material, you’re as predictable as Tony Sporano’s offense.

  2. worldbfree4me - Aug 21, 2012 at 5:28 PM

    I love Marks business acumen, but the problem with the Mavs is you have a Big Rich Fan running the team. Mark is not a basketball mind period. And as for Donnie, I’m still convinced he has pictures of Mark stashed away that got from Papa Nellie. Kid saw the writing on the wall, the Fans were beginning to call him a Jerryatrick, too old and too slow for the game. In the East Coast, he won’t have as much responsibility. But I digress, if Mark wants to get back to relevance, he’ll need to hire a real basketball man.

    • jjared1101 - Aug 21, 2012 at 6:12 PM

      So you don’t think Donnie Nelson is a good GM?

      • sellahh - Aug 21, 2012 at 7:31 PM

        You know who’s a good GM? Lakers GM (is it Mitch or Buss?). Just because Nelson is a GM, doesn’t mean he’s a good one. How sucessful he is, again?

      • jjared1101 - Aug 21, 2012 at 7:43 PM

        What? You make no sense…

        If you don’t think Donnie Nelson is a good GM, you’ve been living under a rock for the last 10 years or just started watching basketball.

        Just because Mitch Kupchak (that’s the name you’re looking for) is a good GM, has zero bearing on whether or not Donnie Nelson is a good GM.

      • bdeviled11 - Aug 21, 2012 at 8:14 PM

        @sellahh I think Donnie Nelson is a NBA Championship winning GM, and pretty recently too.

      • ericdinosaur - Aug 21, 2012 at 9:06 PM

        “You know who’s a good GM? Lakers GM (is it Mitch or Buss?). Just because Nelson is a GM, doesn’t mean he’s a good one. How sucessful he is, again?”

        Ughhh. Basketball fandom is one of the most frustrating things. That is why.

        Donnie Nelson helped construct a team of role players to fit around one star to win a championship against 3 stars.

        I think he’s one of the best GMs in the league when you consider how he’s unearthed guys like Josh Howard (pre-knee injuries, this guy was an All-Star and a worthy Robin to Dirk’s Batman), Marquis Daniels, JJ Barea and helped put guys like Deshawn Stevenson, an old Shawn Marion, and an older Jason Kidd in positions where they could contribute.

    • thomaskouns - Aug 21, 2012 at 8:14 PM


      Total double standard here though It’s OK for Cuban to not resign a loyal player (Nash one of many)but he’s mad when it happens to him.

      I like the fact Cuban cares that much but he can’t have it both ways.

  3. fiyeaglesfiy - Aug 21, 2012 at 5:30 PM

    So Cuban publicly makes a hard run at Deron Williams to replace Kidd as the starting PG and when that falls through he gets upset that the guy he had pegged as his “plan B” didn’t have the Mavs as his first choice? Sounds hypocritical…

    • florida727 - Aug 21, 2012 at 5:40 PM

      Exactly right “fly…”. Be loyal to me, but I don’t have to be loyal in return. What the heck did he expect? Loyalty just because he’s Mark f–ing Cuban? Better check your ego at the door, big boy. Not everybody’s drinking the Cuban kool-aid.

    • jjared1101 - Aug 21, 2012 at 5:50 PM

      Well..that would make sense if it wasn’t for the fact that Kidd openly and publicly stated several times that he didn’t want to play starter minutes, and wanted to back up a young point guard. So Kidd wanted to be a backup no matter the outcome. It’s not as if Kidd wanted to be a starter anymore.

      What Kidd did was agree to sign in Dallas, but then backed out because he wanted to live in New York and wreck his SUV in the Hamptons. That’s fine..he’s entitled to do that. All Cuban was saying was that he thought Kidd was coming back, Kidd backed out at the last second, and Cuban was hurt by that. He simply thought Kidd was more committed to the team than that.

      And nice job Kurt… you speculate that Cuban has done that to other people in the past and have only a thrown out case to back up your claim. Sound logic.

  4. cakemixa - Aug 21, 2012 at 5:31 PM

    Isn’t this like failing to pick up the hot chick you really want, then getting mad at your GF for leaving you and not sticking around after?

    • jjared1101 - Aug 21, 2012 at 6:02 PM

      It was reported on this very website and known throughout that Jason Kidd wanted no longer to be a starting point guard and that Deron Williams and Jason Kidd were a packaged deal. Dallas wanted both of them. When Brooklyn took on Joe Johnson’s contract, it hurt their ability to sign Kidd, so he could no longer follow Deron. Dallas STILL wanted Kidd back, and he burned them after saying he would stay with Dallas. It’s unfortunate that so many of you are uninformed on what the situation was.

      Not to mention, this was not the same ownership that traded Kidd back when he was with Dallas his first two years. This ownership traded for Kidd and then overpaid him (he was making 8 mil a year 3yr/25mil) to keep him there. Then he leaves them to go to another team for the exact same amount of money…

    • drunkenjunk - Aug 21, 2012 at 6:37 PM

      J. Kidd ain’t the hot chick anymore. He’s more like that girl who was banging in hs and fell off 10 years later but still has an alright body. You’d still hit it but ain’t nothing to brag about anymore.

      • sellahh - Aug 21, 2012 at 7:23 PM

        Cakemixa, you nailed it. Absolutely n-a-i-l-e-d it. And I didn’t know you can have feelings in business. I

  5. surly1n1nd1anapol1s - Aug 21, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    Denigrate Cuban’s character as you wish but perhaps you could use an example of poor business practices that has merit to illustrate your point.

  6. drunkenjunk - Aug 21, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    I for one am glad he didn’t stay. I want Collison and West getting the bulk of the minutes.

    • jjared1101 - Aug 21, 2012 at 6:15 PM


      Cuban has every right to be pissed at Kidd, but it’s probably for the best. 6pts, 4rebs, 5.5ast on 36.3% shooting… I think they can do better than that…

  7. sellahh - Aug 21, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    Say what? Mark Cuban has every right to be pissed at JKidd? Yeah, I guess ya all would feel wonderful if you were being talked about as a backup the whole year and then to hope JKidd would be a fallback starter? Thats pure childish stuff from Cuban.
    “because I felt that we had developed a relationship”
    And of all the people out there, he should have known best it’s just a business.

  8. redbullenergydrink - Aug 21, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    Drunkenjunk, Hahahahaha. That was a funny comment.

    • drunkenjunk - Aug 22, 2012 at 1:03 PM

      appreciate it

  9. donrwells3 - Aug 21, 2012 at 7:30 PM

    I find these statements unprofessional. Kidd was a staple in the championship team. He is a future HoF. Mark Cuban should know that business is business.

    I mean can you really see yourself hanging out with Mark Cuban? He’s that rich kid that has friends because he has the cool toy. Jason Kidd was most likely cool with Cuban because he didn’t have any other choice.

    Collison is a good point guard. They put together a decent squad anyway.

    • jjared1101 - Aug 21, 2012 at 7:39 PM

      “I mean can you really see yourself hanging out with Mark Cuban? He’s that rich kid that has friends because he has the cool toy. Jason Kidd was most likely cool with Cuban because he didn’t have any other choice.”


      What does hanging out with Mark Cuban have to do with anything? Jason Kidd was forced to be cool with Cuban? Rich kid with cool toys?

      yea… business is business…and after Cuban trading away picks and players to get Kidd and over paying him the last 3 years, Kidd burned him when he thought he had a deal. That’s not usual business….that was Kidd being a dooche.

      Where do some of you people get this stuff?

  10. donrwells3 - Aug 21, 2012 at 7:32 PM

    One more thing.

    The Mavs made a commitment to win in the future. They blew up their championship team. It didn’t make sense to the fans and it, obviously, didn’t make sense to Jason Kidd.

    • jjared1101 - Aug 21, 2012 at 7:40 PM

      It didn’t make sense to some fans… the ones that don’t know what a CBA is. And the ones that thought Tyson Chandler getting paid 14 mil a year was going to guarantee the Mavs a championship somehow.

  11. jjared1101 - Aug 21, 2012 at 7:33 PM

    Jason Kidd said he didn’t want to be a starter anymore…

    In a conference call Monday afternoon, Jason Kidd reiterated he wants to back up Deron Williams, and that he would be fine doing that in Brooklyn. But Kidd also said he hopes to be back with the Mavericks next season. As for the Nets, Kidd said, “I think they have an owner that wants to win, but I think being able to go into Brooklyn and compete if they can re-sign Deron and get a couple other pieces, they can be a team that can compete in the East.”

    Stefan Bondy wrote that Kidd said it’s early, then brought up the Mavs and Nets, but added, “‘My days of playing 38 minutes are over. …me and Deron can play off each other’.”

  12. mojosmagic - Aug 21, 2012 at 8:17 PM

    Tell it to Turtle Mark.

  13. rajbais - Aug 21, 2012 at 8:48 PM

    The loud, but honest Mark Cuban is back.

    Maybe this will entertain us more than Vince Carter did last year.

  14. reddolfan66 - Aug 21, 2012 at 9:10 PM

    Can’t alway get what you want!! Ha Ha pu$$y

  15. lakerluver - Aug 21, 2012 at 9:14 PM

    Who does Cuban think he is, Dan Gilbert?!! Come on, Cubes, you’re better than that!!

  16. dysraw1 - Aug 21, 2012 at 9:24 PM

    if J. Kidd teaches Ray anything at all hes worth the 3yr 9 mil deal

  17. andrewproughcfe - Aug 21, 2012 at 11:30 PM

    In a summer when this team made major and affordable upgrades all up and down the roster with Collison, Brand, Mayo and Kaman, the owner is pissed about losing a 39 year old part-time point guard who was most recently seen shooting 36% for the season and 34% for the playoffs.

    Cuban needs to go on the local radio and TV singing the praises of young Darren Collison, not trying to bury an aging Jason Kidd.

  18. metalhead65 - Aug 22, 2012 at 8:10 AM

    it sounds to me like he has a right to be pissed. kidd knew what was going on with williams and had a deal worked out with the mavs to stay then changed his mind and signed the same deal with the knicks. now I do not know about you but if you have given your word on something then don’t follow thru on it then I am going to be pissed to.

  19. cantonbound13 - Aug 22, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    Why is he so upset, Collidon is younger & will start right away. He just wants attention.

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