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Stoudemire willing to move to post… with Olajuwon’s help

Aug 16, 2012, 12:29 PM EDT

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Amare Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony have yet to really click on the court, and until they do the ceiling for the Knicks is near their lofty goals. The numbers are clear — when both were on the floor together the Knicks were worse. Stoudemire was a pick-and-roll force while Anthony wants the offense to flow through him more where he creates the shot or play for others.

Which means someone needs to make changes, and Stoudemire seems willing to do that.

Stoudemire is a pick-and-roll player — he shot 60.2 percent and scored 1.22 points per possession last season when he shot as the roll man (via MySynergySports). That accounted for 13 percent of his offense. He got 10 percent of his offense on post touches and shot just 40.5 percent.

But Stoudemire sees the Knicks need for offense out of the post so he has been down in Houston for two weeks working with Hakeem Olajuwon to develop some post moves. The goal is to give him the tools to grow the part of his game that fits better with the Knicks offense.

Stoudemire told that he is optimistic.

“A lot of moves that he has really, really translate to my game. To now develop a post game is going to be remarkable for me. It’s going to catch a lot of my opponents off guard and it’s going to be a great year for me.”

His teacher told the New York Times it’s going well.

“You won’t believe it,” Olajuwon said in a telephone interview from his ranch outside Houston.

“It’s night and day,” Olajuwon said. “What’s so nice is he wants it; he likes the post. He’s always wanted to play there, but he doesn’t have the moves that would give him that option.”

Now, that is coming from a guy trying to pump up his player in public, so take it with a few grains of salt.

But Knicks fans, you need to give Stoudemire some credit here for the effort. New York brought him and Mike D’Antoni in to run one kind of offense, but really never assembled a roster to play that style. They just threw parts together. Carmelo was part of that, a star but one that was going to change how they played.

Stoudemire is the one trying to make the adjustment. He is trying to expand his game. We’ll see how it works out, we’ll see how many touches he gets on the block. But it’s a step toward making him and ‘Melo work well together. And that is what the Knicks need.

  1. doctorfootball - Aug 16, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    Knicks will have a winning record but they wont contend for a title. Anthony is too selfish and rarely passes the ball. Also, Anthony’s defense is average at best. And Amar’e can’t even spell defense. With the additions of Kurt Thomas, Jason Kidd, Marcus Camby and Pablo Prigioni, they’re now a really old team. They’re basically a puzzle with pieces that don’t fit. So Amar’e can work all he wants on his post game. It may help the team, but they won’t even be able to compete with the great teams in the league.

  2. baron30 - Aug 16, 2012 at 1:17 PM

    i wonder how much The Dream charges for these low post sessions seeing as everyone goes to him like he is some sort of post-up witch doctor….

    • eventhorizon04 - Aug 16, 2012 at 9:13 PM

      They’re free.

      • dondada10 - Aug 16, 2012 at 9:47 PM

        Not even close. He charges something along the lines of 10K a week.

    • cmehustle - Aug 16, 2012 at 10:24 PM

      He charges 50,000 a week

      • mike441 - Aug 17, 2012 at 10:21 PM

        damn per week? Amare paid $100,000 for those lessons. lol he’s staying two weeks.

    • mike441 - Aug 17, 2012 at 10:20 PM

      He actually charges $50,000 for the lessons.

  3. money2long - Aug 16, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    if this is true, im taking him with my 3rd pick in fantasy !

  4. thomaskouns - Aug 16, 2012 at 1:32 PM

    Only took him nearly 10 years in the league to figure this out.

    I hope Hakeem teaches defense as well.

    • mogogo1 - Aug 16, 2012 at 2:23 PM

      It is simply astounding that a guy of his build has never really learned to play the post. Hakeem is an all-time great, but I wonder if even he’ll be able to teach desire to a guy who’s spent this many years not even trying to make himself a complete player.

      • bougin89 - Aug 16, 2012 at 2:44 PM

        Welcome to the NBA in 2012. I completely agree with you. This is why post play is pretty horrendous in the NBA right now. Not many post players develop their post game and the ones that do are highly coveted even if they have attitude/effort issues, see Andrew Bynum.

  5. bigbamboom1 - Aug 16, 2012 at 2:01 PM

    please give me a break! Are you implying that Amare and Carmelo are too dumb to figure out how to play a lethal pick and roll with one another?! They don’t even need a point guard to do it. Both can handle the ball well enough to pull it off. All a guard has to do is get them in the riight posiution to launch it. I think their issues go much deeper than that. It’s ego and attitude. And they better figure it out this year. Earl the Pearl and Walt “Clyde” had to do it. And they won a championship with it. These two guys are good enough to do the same damn thing if they want too. Miami or no one else have more talent than them in those 2 positions. My advice to both is free your minds of the BS excuses and your rear ends will follow.

    • alildusty - Aug 16, 2012 at 2:24 PM

      @bigbamboom1 you’re totally wrong. Amare def. does not have the handle to be a pick and roll handler. Melo has a shoot first mentality that doesn’t allow him to ever give up the ball after the pick.

      These two are NOT Lebron and Durant (They are the most unstoppable pick and roll/pop tandem.)

      Amare is still dreaming if he thinks being in the post is going to work if Chandlers on the floor. He’s never been a good passer so Chandlers man is going to double and Amare is going to force up an ill advised shot and most likely get blocked like how he did last year.

      Melo is the one that needs to change. NOT amare. go back to pick and roll with felton/kidd. Melo should cut as weakside option. Chandler remains down low.

    • thomaskouns - Aug 16, 2012 at 2:38 PM

      If the Knicks had been in the Western Conference last year they wouldn’t have even made the playoffs.

      How do you have two ‘superstars’ on a team and barely make the playoffs.

      Also, Carmelo admitted that this is the first offseason he’s worked on his conditioning meaningfully.

      Superstars in ad campaigns and name only.

      • deeballer - Aug 16, 2012 at 5:08 PM

        They wouldn’t have made the playoff if a person of Taiwanese decent didn’t get hot and got all the scrub players involved to go on a hot streak.

    • bougin89 - Aug 16, 2012 at 2:51 PM

      bigbamboom…Carmelo and Amare could do a pick n roll but I definitely don’t see that as a good option. You would want Carmelo weakside and a quality guard who is quicker/better ball handler/passer running the pick n roll with Amare.

  6. mogogo1 - Aug 16, 2012 at 2:20 PM

    “Amare Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony have yet to really click on the court, and until they do the ceiling for the Knicks is near their lofty goals.”

    This says it is possible for the Knicks to reach their lofty goals without Amare and Melo clicking. I doubt that’s what you intended, Kurt.

  7. knightrider1755 - Aug 16, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    Funny how former-Knick Patrick Ewing was voted one of the 50 greatest players in NBA history yet the Knicks never send anyone to work out with him.

    • brianspider - Aug 16, 2012 at 7:40 PM

      Maybe because he is an assistant with the Orlando Magic?

    • dls612 - Aug 16, 2012 at 8:31 PM

      Why would it be the Knicks decision? Hakeem in my opinion had the best low post game! No discredit to the others. You wanna always choose the best! Never settle!

  8. 13fitzj - Aug 16, 2012 at 2:36 PM

    @baron30 Amare is paying the dream $100k for these two weeks

    • brianspider - Aug 16, 2012 at 7:41 PM

      This is true. Not sure why someone would “dislike” it.

  9. isujames - Aug 16, 2012 at 5:04 PM

    Thats where you should be 6″11 p-ssy.

  10. isujames - Aug 16, 2012 at 5:23 PM

    ^ Hey what does his race have to do with it fella??????

  11. rickyspanish - Aug 16, 2012 at 5:52 PM


    That’s funny.



  12. test2402 - Aug 16, 2012 at 8:04 PM

    This man is a waste of conversation.

  13. eventhorizon04 - Aug 16, 2012 at 9:17 PM

    Melo already has an excellent low post game.

    Don’t get me wrong – a guy who Amar’e’s size should always have a low-post game, but if Amar’e is JUST starting to learn how to score in the post effectively, it might be more effective for Carmelo to set up shop on the low post and use Felton-Amar’e pick and rolls as a second-offensive option.

  14. 11thstreetmafia - Aug 18, 2012 at 12:00 PM

    The fact that he now will move to the post just proves that he is an effing moron.

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