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One trade to watch for: Philly moving a big man (not Bynum)

Aug 14, 2012, 10:22 AM EDT

Spencer Hawes

Philadelphia had their big man rotation set. Coach Doug Collins said Kwame Brown was going to be the starter. (Why? Because he felt his blood pressure was too low.), There were also Spencer Hawes and Lavoy Allen on the roster to play the five, plus the Sixers just drafted 6’11” power forward Arnett Moultrie.

But when a player like Andrew Bynum becomes available and lets you move the Andre Iguodala contract you have looked to shed in the right deal for a while, you jump on it. Philadelphia did that as part of the Dwight Howard to the Lakers trade, a four-team trade that makes sense for everyone save Orlando (and you can argue they got what they wanted, I just think they might have gotten better offers).

The good news is Brown is no longer the starter. But Philly has more bigs than it needs, something most teams would kill for. As Sam Amico speculates at Fox Sports Ohio (as have others around the league), it’s logical to think they could move one of those bigs in a trade down the line. Not Bynum… well, unless he says he will not re-sign with them. But we’re a long way from that. Rather Brown, Allen and Hawes potentially could be moved.

As Hawes, Brown and Allen were all signed this summer to new deals, they cannot be moved until mid-December, so look for this to be more of a deadline deal. There are no talks now, but just saying watch this because it makes sense.

In the short term, watch Collins try to go big in an Eastern Conference where the powers of Miami and Boston are doing the opposite. Collins will likely start Bynum at the five and Hawes at the four, which is an experiment because Hawes has never played that position. But if it works it makes the Sixers a matchup problem for everyone (save maybe the Lakers).

That could work, at least until the Sixers make a move.

  1. illcomm - Aug 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    it would make sense to trade someone, but I though they couldn’t till midseason, since theybwere just signed. am I delusional or you once again Kurt?

    • somekat - Aug 14, 2012 at 10:49 AM

      this isn’t the NHL where you have to keep a player for year. Sign and trades happen all the time in the NBA

      As a sixers fan, I hope it’s Brow or Hawes (Brown the most) and not Allen. I really wanna see Allen play with a dominant big man

    • tk41 - Aug 14, 2012 at 12:09 PM

      No player acquired after the start of the NBA year (including draft picks), but before the first game, may be moved before 12/15. However, anyone on your roster at the beginning of the NBA year is available to be traded at any point.

      I’m not sure how it relates to FAs that were resigned (Allen, Hawes)?

      Larry Coon’s CBA FAQ is pretty good for these things, but it is so damn through that it takes a while to find what you’re looking for.

      • ewyorksockexchange - Aug 14, 2012 at 2:11 PM

        You can trade FA’s that were resigned, that’s the backbone of all sign-and-trades.

  2. basketballscience - Aug 14, 2012 at 10:45 AM

    I do not believe this article is accurate because the team just signed both Kwame and Spencer as free agents. I thought the CBA does not allow a recently signed Free Agent to be signed and traded unless the player decides the trading team chooses a team he is willing to play for. Otherwise the team must wait til January to trade these players.

  3. illcomm - Aug 14, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    just read up on the rules. any offeson free agent signing is not double trade until December 15th or 90 days after they signed.

  4. illcomm - Aug 14, 2012 at 11:01 AM

    just read up on the rules. any offeson free agent signing is not eligible to be traded until December 15th or 90 days after they signed.

  5. illcomm - Aug 14, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    so the sixers can’t trade any of their big men till December 15 and therefore once again, Kurt has written another article out of ignorance.

    • ewyorksockexchange - Aug 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM

      They can trade Hawes and Allen because they were on the roster last year. Otherwise sign and trade deals wouldn’t happen.

  6. drunkenjunk - Aug 14, 2012 at 11:17 AM

    i’m happy for sixer fans, having Kwame play significant minutes sucks.

  7. phillynac - Aug 14, 2012 at 11:25 AM

    Did you read the article Illcomm? He says that a trade can’t happen until mid-December. Unless he just added that, you wasted your time looking through rules just to feed your ego and prove the writer wrong. It may be time to get a life.

  8. illcomm - Aug 14, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    philly. he did update the article. the one you read is not the the original published.

  9. illcomm - Aug 14, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    the first article said to look for a move in the offseason. not it says the mid December update. Kurt does this a lot without noting the change.

  10. lakerluver - Aug 14, 2012 at 11:37 AM

    Bye, bye Kwame.

  11. jordanmetzler84 - Aug 14, 2012 at 11:44 AM

    Sixers desperately need a back up PG. They still have an abundance of SF’s and one undersized PF (Thad) but they have no insurance behind Jrue! Royal Ivey is not a viable option if something happens to Jrue – even with Turner who can handle the ball – I’d like to see them pick up a legit veteran pg. They should leverage their abundance of SF’s(do we still need both N. Young and D. Wright, now that JRich is on the roster?) or Big guys for a nice backup PG.

  12. bougin89 - Aug 14, 2012 at 11:48 AM

    I’m sure the Bucks would trade for a power forward. We’re looking to make history this year, we’ll be the first team to dress 8 PF’s that have the same skillset.

  13. illcomm - Aug 14, 2012 at 2:44 PM

    ewyork. you’re wrong.

  14. illcomm - Aug 14, 2012 at 2:47 PM

    sign n trades are different than FA signungs done with no intention of trading immediately

  15. rotaylla - Aug 14, 2012 at 2:55 PM

    The BrooklynNets should try and get Collins..

  16. jengibre23 - Aug 14, 2012 at 3:08 PM

    Whatever you do dont trade lavoy Allen. He shut down KG in the playoffs last year and he can become a scorer. Allen can evolve into a top tier PF in a few seasons if he can make himself a low post presence along with a shooter

    • nycalldayz - Aug 14, 2012 at 11:25 PM

      Did I miss something how did he shut down Kevin Garnett? KG averaged 19.5 and 11.0 through the entire 2012 post-season. KG averaged 20pts in the Philly series so that’s not exactly limiting your opponent, but Allen is a good defender that I have to agree with. I think Allen has potential to be a very good role player in the NBA.

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