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Hawks wanted to talk Howard deal, Timberwolves not so much

Aug 13, 2012, 10:32 AM EDT

Danny Ferry, Hawks President of Basketball Operations and GM AP

Now that the deal is finally done and our long national Dwightmare is over, the stories are starting to leak out. The jilted would-be brides are leaking things out (part out of frustration, but more out of the “hey look fan base, we really tried” motive). Others are saying they didn’t want to be part of the dance at all.

First came the Nets saying they lost out because Magic just didn’t want to send Howard to his preferred destination. Now we have the Hawks saying the were rebuffed while there are other reports the Timberwolves didn’t want to get in the game.

First, Hawks GM Danny Ferry said he tried but could not get his foot in the door, he told the Atlanta Journal Constitution:

He approached the Orlando Magic about a trade for Howard in early July but was turned down. He never had the opportunity to share his vision with Howard and try to convince him that the dysfunction that Howard (an Atlanta native) was familiar with was a thing of the past. It never even got as far as being in position to convince Howard to sign an extension.

“We had discussions with Orlando about Dwight Howard,” Ferry said. “They were apprehensive to trade him within the division.”

If that is true, it’s shortsighted by the Magic. If the goal is to blow up the team and rebuild through the draft, then it doesn’t matter where you ship Howard because you plan to suck for three years or so to have better draft picks. So what if he beats you a few times a year the next couple years, your eyes are on the prize five years or more out. I’m not saying that’s where the final deal was best, the Hawks may not have won the bidding war, but you talk to everyone.

As for the Timberwolves, who were rumored to be part of talks at points as a third team, they were never really interested according to the Pioneer Press (via

Before the Los Angeles Lakers traded Andrew Bynum to the Philadelphia 76ers, the Lakers tried to peddle Bynum to the Timberwolves, who said no thanks.

I love Nikola Pekovic and Greg Stiemsma as much as the next guy, but Bynum is a better center than either of them.  By a long shot. A Bynum and Kevin Love front like is something to watch (if a bit slow footed). Not sure what the trade parameters might have been — they may not have been favorable, rejecting the deal may have been the smart play — but you at least should have the conversation, right? Let’s hope David Kahn at least went that far.

  1. cosanostra71 - Aug 13, 2012 at 10:57 AM


    • loungefly74 - Aug 13, 2012 at 10:50 PM

      damn it…beat me again. nice!

  2. cantonbound13 - Aug 13, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    Do you really think Bynum would resign in Minnesota?

    • therealhtj - Aug 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM

      No more than anyone thinks Kevin Love is staying there once his player option is up in a couple of years. It’s also pretty clear that any deal sending Bynum to Minny would’ve involved Love to the Lakers since there’s really nothing else on that roster the Lakers would trade Bynum for.

      • brewdogg - Aug 13, 2012 at 12:00 PM

        Are you really that dumb? Howard to Lakers, Bynum to Wolves, Wolves pieces to Orlando. Can you follow that simple little bit of logic? Even if Love would have been included in that trade scenario, he would have gone to ORLANDO.

        Why are all the Lakers fans on here complete idiots?

      • therealhtj - Aug 13, 2012 at 5:20 PM

        Why do Wolves fans think Love stays past his opt out?

      • brewdogg - Aug 14, 2012 at 12:11 AM

        For the same reason that Lakers fans thought he wouldn’t sign his extension in the first place….

  3. luckysunday20 - Aug 13, 2012 at 11:32 AM

    Lol Does the Magic front office really think Divisions matter in the NBA? Yeah in the NFL sure..

    Also lets say divisions did matter wouldn’t you want D12 in your division beating you up helping you suck/lose for the next 4yrs or so? By the time the magic are competitive again he’ll be in his 30s.

  4. crustylovelips - Aug 13, 2012 at 11:40 AM

    If Atlanta had the best deal. Orlando should of sent him there.. He was only going to beat the Magic 4x the first year then bolt to NJ or whoever.. weak excuse not to trade him to the Hawks.

  5. bougin89 - Aug 13, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    He was traded…I thought this would stop.

  6. eventhorizon04 - Aug 13, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    ….So, the Orlando Magic, led by 31 year old GM Extraordinaire Rob Hennigan, refused to even begin negotiations with Atlanta because if he traded Dwight to the Hawks, the Magic would play him 4 times a year every year as they repeatedly tanked in order to earn a lottery pick.

    Instead, they sent him to the Lakers in what is universally deemed as a poor trade for the Magic (excellent for the Lakers) because that way, the Magic would only face Dwight twice a year as they repeatedly tanked in order to earn a lottery draft pick.

    Yeah, I’d much rather have Arron Afflalo + scrubs than negotiate to get Al Horford (an All-Star center) + Jeff Teague (better than Jameer Nelson) and have to face Dwight twice more a year.


    • eventhorizon04 - Aug 13, 2012 at 12:14 PM

      Also, after repeatedly praising Hennigan for “taking his time” as he turned down promising deals like Houston’s and the arguably better deal offered by the Nets (depends on Brook Lopez’s upside), why isn’t Hennigan coming under more criticism for trading a Hall of Fame Center for a solid but not elite shooting guard, a slightly overpaid forward in Al Harrington, and scrubs?

    • rushbacker - Aug 14, 2012 at 2:32 AM

      Come on, guys. How many times does it have to be explained? They’re TANKING! Why would they want Al Horford? Unless you think he’s good enough to be the centerpiece of a title contender (clearly, he’s not), then all they do by acquiring him is foil their own plan. They obviously feel that several likely top-five picks plus Afflalo plus cap space (JRich is gone, I Believe Harrington can be bought out next year) plus three extra late firsts gives them a better chance to build a contender than Horford, Teague, whatever other throw-ins, and their own draft picks, probably later in the lottery.

      It’s a risk either way, but what they’re doing and why they are doing it is fairly obvious. Knowing they couldn’t get equal parts in return for Howard, they chose to acquire mostly future flexibility instead of players they didn’t want– like Brook freakin’ Lopez on a max contract, for example. Orlando’s gotten a good look at the Hawks teams of recent years, so you can’t blame them for taking a swing at finding a true franchise cornerstone rather than aiming for mediocrity.

  7. hokiegajanisgod - Aug 13, 2012 at 12:41 PM

    Rob Hennigan can count on ‘GM of the year’ votes from 3 teams for sure…

  8. prosourcetalk - Aug 13, 2012 at 1:17 PM

    It was only a matter of time before these reports came out and made the trade look even worse for Orlando

  9. mannyicey - Aug 13, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    Eventhorizon04 is absolutely correct, because I heard Teague, Horford AND Draft picks were on the table! The only sticking point was the long-term deal, but that would have to have been worked out between the Hawks and Howard.

    It would have been good for the Magic because they would have pieces to build around, a draft pick or two to play with and the possible lottery. But I guess that they feel that having Howard coming to the Magic’s house and getting ridiculous would be too much for the fan base.

  10. lawest111 - Aug 13, 2012 at 4:38 PM

    If you are Danny Ferry you only say this if you’re trying to avoid public backlash. Saying this doesn’t help the current team, but express to them that your GM doesn’t feel you are good enough.

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