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Stoudemire says it’s a championship or bust for Knicks

Jul 20, 2012, 1:46 PM EDT

New York Knicks forward Amare Stoudemire waits to take a foul shot against the New Orleans Hornets in the second half of their NBA basketball game at Madison Square Garden in New York Reuters

Be ready for failure, Knicks fans.

Amare Stoudemire set the parameters for next season while speaking with MSG during a Knicks Summer League contest (as transcribed by Newsday). And like you want a competitor to say, he set the bar very high.

“Anything less than a championship,” the power forward said on MSG Thursday during Knicks’ Summer League broadcast from Las Vegas, “is a waste of a season.”

The Knicks should be better next season — just a full season under Mike Woodson without the turmoil of a mid-season coaching switch will help. Marcus Camby is a good fit as a backup big man and Raymond Felton seems motivated. They will get a good seed, maybe have a first round home court advantage, maybe get to the second round.

But unless there are some big changes, they are not coming out of the East. Miami got better and they have the crown. Boston got better. Chicago is potentially a title contender depending on Derrick Rose. After that there is a step down to the next tier in the East, where New York, Indiana and likely Brooklyn live. For the Knicks to get out of the East pretty much everything has to go right, then they would get to the finals and run into the Thunder or Lakers and, well. Bust.

But you don’t really want or expect Stoudemire to say anything otherwise.

  1. cakemixa - Jul 20, 2012 at 1:49 PM

    Which NY team is a bigger fail? Knicks or Jets?

    • malcom1985 - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:01 PM

      Knicks, hands down.

  2. theworldbestrealitycheck - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    BUST!!!! clown plays for a 7 seed with players that barely of ever get out the first round.

  3. jeremyhurst - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:03 PM

    Knicks aren’t going to get anywhere close to championship this season. Amare is out of his got-damn mind.

  4. geraldthecat - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:09 PM


    • dexterismyhero - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:16 PM

      Absolute Bust

  5. reupjosh - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:17 PM

    I wasn’t aware there were trade talks of Amaré for Durant and Melo for Lebron out there…

  6. eddit13 - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:19 PM

    So in one post, Kurt is down on Stat for setting the bar high and on the other post, he’s sucking off Daryl Morey for overpaying for a backup PG when he could have kept Dragic or Lowry. Fair and balanced blogger. Clap for him.

    • domblaze - Jul 20, 2012 at 4:09 PM

      Different writers for each post actually.

  7. leeeroooyjeeenkiiins - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:20 PM

    And by bust, he meant busting open more fire extinguisher glass.

  8. rodge1 - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:28 PM

    I am not a Knicks fan by any means. In fact, I can’t stand them or their fans. But I see nothing wrong with Amare saying that. Every player on every team should have that mentality going into the season.

  9. doctorfootball - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:31 PM

    “Be ready for failure, Knicks fans”?? No need to say that. Knicks fans are always ready for failure. They cheer for a badly run organization. They know failure better than most. This year’s Knicks roster is poorly put together, as usual. They’ll get to the playoffs, and possibly get to the second round. But make no mistake. The Knicks will not win a championship anytime in the next few decades while they have Dumb Dumb Dolan at the helm.

    • paleihe - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:42 PM

      Getting to the second round would be a major accomplishment for them. I mean, they’ve won one playoff game in over a decade, so winning four is quite a hurdle.

      • doctorfootball - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:57 PM

        The Knicks keep talking championship. Getting to the 2nd round would be a failure by their own admission.

  10. SmackSaw - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM

    Anything less than a championship,is a waste of a season.”

    Every player on every team should be saying that.

    • knightrider1755 - Jul 20, 2012 at 7:30 PM

      That’s the mentality of players who play for winning franchises, like the Yankees, Celtic, or Lakers. Not for the NY Knicks who haven’t won jack in 40 years.

  11. ninjasports - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:42 PM

    It is going to be tough for them to beat the beasts in the east but Amare and Melo definately have the potential to pull it off if they learn to co-exist and some role players step up.

  12. waxthat - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:46 PM

    Melo, Amare, Lala Anthony, Ciara Stoudemire all need to go away

  13. shockexchange - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:46 PM

    Amare is the proverbial “Big Hat … No Cattle”

  14. tigershark49 - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:51 PM

    Fire extinguisher says bust!

  15. bparmalee - Jul 20, 2012 at 2:52 PM

    Knicks fans should be pissed the hell off watching team USA play. It’s obvious that Melo could play more of a team game and even play some defense if he wanted to… he does for team USA. For whatever reason he thinks NBA games can only be about himself so I just can’t imagine him as part of a championship team. Until the Knicks get some pieces that fit they are going to be locked into that 6,7,8 seed range.

    • passerby23 - Jul 20, 2012 at 4:55 PM

      Totally agree. It’s hard to imagine the Knicks winning a championship with Melo’s isolation offense as the focal point. That’s why Nash would’ve been such a good fit for NY – free-flowing, ball-distributing PG who gets Melo his shots in rhythm and keeps everyone involved. Felton might help a little, but you’re right, he can clearly play a team game with the Olympic team, why not on his own team?

    • jetstizzi85 - Jul 20, 2012 at 5:18 PM

      Did you happen to watch him play the last month of the season? Melo was on fire and was playing much better D under Mike Woodson.

      • knightrider1755 - Jul 20, 2012 at 7:34 PM

        Great, but where was he in those other months?

    • brianjoates - Jul 20, 2012 at 5:42 PM

      Melo doesn’t trust the guys around him. He likes having Tyson, because Tyson knows his role on a team. Melo must be psyched to have Kidd, because he trusts him as a PG from their experience in the Olympics.

      It seems when the superstars realize they need to trust their teammates and can can trust them, they take that next step towards a title.

      Don’t count CP3 out of the picture in NYC in the season after next, LA has been nice, but his boys are playing with the Knicks.

      • knightrider1755 - Jul 20, 2012 at 7:33 PM

        Funny, CP3 will join the Knicks when he’s 38 years old and not a day sooner.

      • Kevin S. - Jul 20, 2012 at 7:50 PM

        Oh really? Please, tell us how CP3 gets to the Knicks next offseason?

        This ought to be good.

      • tomtravis76 - Jul 20, 2012 at 11:59 PM

        It does help that Paul is an UFA at the end of the season. Anyone could come up with crazy ideas how to create space. If the Thunder don’t get it done with Harden and Ibaka helping KD and Westbrook, do they try to add Amare instead of paying those guys? So many things could happen that seem impossible, but its the NBA and almost any scenario can unfold. Who would have thought three of the NBA’s top players would join up?

        Chris Paul with the Knicks is not really a crazy idea.

  16. 20dollardinners - Jul 20, 2012 at 3:00 PM

    They aren’t even a top 4 seed in the east. They live in the nether between the elites of the easy and 500 teams that don’t belong in the playoffs.

    • passerby23 - Jul 20, 2012 at 5:15 PM

      As of now, I would rank the East as follows:

      1. Miami
      2. Boston
      3. Indiana
      4. Chicago
      5. New York
      6. Brooklyn
      7. Atlanta
      8. Washington

      I see Philly taking a step back and Orlando taking a huge step back. Atlanta will be competitive, but not as good. Washington should have enough talent and veteran leadership to finally get in the playoffs.

  17. tomtravis76 - Jul 20, 2012 at 3:00 PM

    Guess its going to be a waste of a season. No chance they get close to a title, they will make the playoffs no doubt, but no way they get a title.

    You can bet the USA boys are already crushing Tyson and Melo behind the scenes, might aswell get in an opponents head that they have no chance when they step on the court with you. Unless Amare has some spectacular start of the season, he is on his way out of NYC, no need to pay a guy that kind of money for what he produces on this team as it is designed. They need to bring in some outside shooters.

  18. bowwserr - Jul 20, 2012 at 3:27 PM

    Forgive me, but I’m going to let the trolling. homer in me come out for a few seconds.

    Why do you list only ths Lakers and Thunder as the teams to make it to the NBA Finals out of the west? Have we forgotten that team down in San Antonio?

  19. loungefly74 - Jul 20, 2012 at 3:30 PM

    “But you don’t really want or expect Stoudemire to say anything otherwise.”

    exactly…i have no problem with what he said. it’s much better than “well…we might squeek by into the 2nd rd…but once we go up against the Heat or Bulls…we are toast. next question?”

  20. dysraw1 - Jul 20, 2012 at 3:40 PM

    yo whats he supose to say we all know Lebron and those guys are gonna win it again right! to think anything less than competing for a title makes you less than player in my book

  21. diablito0402 - Jul 20, 2012 at 4:34 PM

    Absolut BUST, even the great Phil Jackson said the team was clumsy and not well constructed

  22. duane888 - Jul 20, 2012 at 4:36 PM

    This one is just too easy. Never mind.

  23. rushbacker - Jul 20, 2012 at 5:19 PM

    I hope he enjoys bust.

  24. protectthishouse54 - Jul 20, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    Wow. Look at everyone coming out to trash the Knicks. Sure they have poor management, but the roster is still better than the majority of other teams. Unless all these commenters are Heat homers, they can STFU. Who knows what will happen next season. Say Lebron rips his ACL…then what?

    • knightrider1755 - Jul 20, 2012 at 7:37 PM

      Say Melo rips his ACL….then what? Never mind, it wouldn’t matter.

  25. rdav29 - Jul 20, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    glass is always half full with amare

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