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It’s likely futile, but Lakers reportedly talking Howard again

Jul 17, 2012, 1:46 PM EDT

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We’ve seen this movie before. I’m not sure why it would end differently this time, but we’re seeing it again.

The Lakers are back making a Dwight Howard push, according to Marc Spears at Yahoo Sports.

Lakers pushing hard to land Magic center Dwight Howard & meeting with Magic today, sources tell Y! LAL wants DH contract extension commitment… Rockets currently do not have a meeting set up with the Magic in regards to landing Dwight Howard, source tells Y! Sports.

The buzz around Summer League has been that nothing was close with Howard to anywhere, that the Magic had pulled back.

Until the Jeremy Lin and Omer Asik situations are resolved, the Rockets don’t know exactly what they can offer. They have to sit on the sidelines.

The Lakers know exactly what they can offer, the same thing they have offered from the start — Andrew Bynum (and other parts to make it all fit). How the Lakers get a deal done without a third team to take on Jason Richardson’s contract, and how they get enough picks to make Orlando happy, are other topics, but the Lakers have a piece in Bynum that will get the Magic talking.

But that’s never been the problem with sending Dwight Howard to the Los Angeles, the problem is getting the principle players involved to agree.

The Lakers have wanted a commitment from Howard that he would re-sign with them after the season. (Howard, nor any other free agent, is going to sign an extension under the new CBA, because they get fewer years and less guaranteed money than becoming a free agent and re-signing with the same team. As Deron Williams did in Brooklyn.)

Howard has said he will not re-sign with the Lakers. He also has wanted to be the star of the team and the Lakers are Kobe’s team, with Steve Nash and Pau Gasol both still there taking up a lot of shots. Is Howard going to sign on for that?

On the flip side, Orlando is going to want a commitment from Bynum, who also is a free agent next summer. And he has given no indication he would re-sign there (other than he wants a big payday and they can provide it). The Magic are not moving Howard without a commitment from Bynum, they are not trading one big man in the last year of his deal and who wants out for another.

I’m not sure how the movie ends differently this time unless Howard and Bynum change their stances. But the talks seem to be on again.

  1. crtzinc - Jul 17, 2012 at 1:50 PM

    Why does it seem you are opposed to the Lakers getting Howard, Kurt? You wouldn’t say that about the Nets. I can’t wait until the Lakers close this deal for Howard!

    • crtzinc - Jul 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM

      Obviously Kurt it needs to be a 3 team deal and if Dan Gilbert assists this trade he will be forgiven for that anti-Chris Paul letter to Stern last year! Simply the Lakers would not be doing their due diligence if they did not exhaust getting this guy until they can’t anymore. Lakers want a commitment but I highly doubt Dwight leaves an extra 20 million next year plus the 100 million+ Adidas contract he would only get by staying in the big market of L.A.

    • joshm5683 - Jul 17, 2012 at 3:02 PM

      Kurt isn’t the one who said Howard wouldn’t sign. Ever since the beginning of free agency the people close to Howard have said he would not re-sign with the Lakers. What Kurt is saying is nothing new.

      That being said, in a few days we’ll hear how the Rockets are close to a deal for him. Then we’ll hear the Mavs, and then back to the Lakers……and before long the Shanghai Sharks in a 8 team trade with the main piece going back to ORL is a bid for the 2032 summer Olympics

      • marksp18 - Jul 17, 2012 at 6:35 PM

        That is what they say. But who are “they”? The people close to him? None of them would put their name out there. Until you hear it from D12 himself that he will not resign with LA then no one really knows.

        I’ll tell you what we do know though. D12 had his surgery in Southern California and has been out here ever since. Hennigan had to fly out here to talk to D12. Yet there are some out there that will tell you he does not like LA. Go figure.

        Those are facts. People close to him saying things without putting their names to it is just rumor.

        Here are more facts. The Amway Center was opened on Sept 29, 2010. They had a difficult time getting the financing for this arena too. You think they want to have it not be sold out because the team is young and “developing”? Maybe. But the owner of the Magic did not get rich making too many financial mistakes.

        Kupchak has known all along that he had the biggest chip (i.e. best hand) in any trade with Orlando. Andrew Bynum is a player that is pretty close to D12 in capabilities. He has size, skill, and potential.

        If you are Rob Hennigan what do you want your legacy to be? How are you going to compete for the playoffs and fill up that arena?

        It is pretty obvious to me. Hennigan is just trying to get more than just Bynum but in the end that is pretty dang good even if it was straight up.

  2. cantonbound13 - Jul 17, 2012 at 1:51 PM

    I say we start a petition to never talk about Howard until a deal is actually done.

    • dannymac17 - Jul 17, 2012 at 2:26 PM

      i will sign that petition.

  3. malcom1985 - Jul 17, 2012 at 1:51 PM

    What a waste of time. The Lakers and Magic have done this dance before, and it produced nothing because both sides want them to commit to re-signing with the team. What has changed? Nothing. Dwight Howard will still say no, and Bynum will say no. How about the Lakers work on filling out that bench instead of participating in the Dwight Howard sweepstakes..

    • echech88 - Jul 17, 2012 at 2:03 PM

      I think it’s interesting that this story says that the buzz within the industry is that “nothing was ever close with Howard” which would indicate that anything you read in the media about imminent deals last month was very likely B.S yet people think they know everything that is going on behind the scenes based on….yep…what they read in the media.

    • tsi431 - Jul 17, 2012 at 4:56 PM

      Lots of things have changes.

      The Nets, whom was Howard’s sole team, can no longer take him.
      The Rockets are no longer in the running.
      The Magic now have a new GM whom has talked to Howard and has not changed his mind.
      Howard has said he just wants to leave now, which most would assume means he is willing to sign.

      The only hold up would be Bynum. But telling a 24 year old with 2 NBA championship rings that you are going to give him a max contract for multiple years will change his mind.

    • danfrommv - Jul 17, 2012 at 7:29 PM

      What may have changed is that now Houston can’t participate because they are getting Lin and (maybe) Osik. The Cavs have dropped out, the Nets can’t trade Lopez until January 15. So maybe ORL is starting to feel like they are going to have trouble unloading him before the start of the season, and are more motivated to make a deal with any remaining team that has assets.

  4. illcomm - Jul 17, 2012 at 1:55 PM

    I smell a three team trade brewing. iggy to lakers for gasol n a pick to Orlando. then rest of a lot of pices to lakers.

  5. illcomm - Jul 17, 2012 at 1:56 PM

    n Orlando

  6. patfic15 - Jul 17, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    Both head cases. If I am Orlando I look elsewhere.

  7. isujames - Jul 17, 2012 at 2:07 PM

    What do the Lakers not get, Howard wants to play for the nets and only the nets, not this old as $hit squad of has beens and have nevers/nots.Move on lakers, even with Howard the lakers still woundn’t win it all, theyd be scary though.

    • adfranco - Jul 17, 2012 at 2:27 PM

      And what don’t you get? If Howard wants to sign with the Nets next summer, he will have to take the vet minimum. Unless the Magic wait to trade him in January to the team of his choice, but unlikely that they will want Lopez’s ridiculous contract. Therefore, what other options does Howard have? He needs to face reality and realize that his chances of becoming a Net are slim. He needs to either include other teams that he would be willing to resign with or stay with being the main guy on the Magic and shut the hell up. I would actually love for Howard to be miserable and get booed next season in a Magic uniform.

      • mogogo1 - Jul 17, 2012 at 2:54 PM

        I keep waiting for somebody to finally call Howard’s bluff. He wants lots of things…but unlike some other players in recent memory, the stars don’t appear to be aligning for him to get absolutely everything he wants. As much as he supposedly wants to be a Net, I find it hard to believe he’s willing to take less pay for that to happen.

      • danfrommv - Jul 17, 2012 at 7:32 PM

        I agree. I would love to see ORL leave and then DH realize he can’t get both the money and the team he wants. As a UFA who wants max money, he would have to sign on a bad team with lots of cap space. Then he is worse off than he is in ORL. Hah!

  8. narlo00 - Jul 17, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    My guess is if LAL wants commitment from Howard, they already have a deal in place and are waiting for just that. I’m as sick as the rest of you about Howard, but I think with a little more patience, this deal gets done by Friday. I think that Bynum is a better offensive player then Howard, but specially with Nash in LA now, I’ll take Howard all day. Can move quicker on the pick and rolls, plays better defense, etc.. This is assuming his back is healthy. Bynum has kind of become a pain in the butt lately in LA and this is going to be his 8th year in the league and people are still saying “wait till he matures.” A lineup of Nash/Kobe/MWP/Gasol/D12 with Jamison, j hill, Blake, and hopefully another SG.. Should be enough to win the title and convince D12 to resign. AND it’s funny how you hear Kobe start talking about retiring. Think he’s saying to Dwight, come now, wait two years, and this kingdom is yours young fella.

  9. ncarolinarn7 - Jul 17, 2012 at 2:16 PM

    Send him to Seattle or Minnesota.

    • gmsalpha - Jul 17, 2012 at 2:56 PM

      Uhhh…Seattle? You’re a few years too late on that one, Carolin.

    • Justin - Jul 17, 2012 at 6:13 PM

      Send him to Minnesota and the Wolves become a 2 or 3 seed.

      • jimeejohnson - Jul 17, 2012 at 9:53 PM

        That trade would complement the free agent hockey signings the Wild pulled off. Minneapolis could be a sports powerhouse! Chicagoans somehow hate that. It’s some kinda Midwestern oh theet rivalry. Rivalries are good for sports. Da bears!

  10. congocash - Jul 17, 2012 at 2:20 PM

    Sports writers are just recycling their old dwight howard blogs from last trade deadline now…. Just changing a few words and dates before publishing them…..

  11. starvingardens - Jul 17, 2012 at 2:26 PM

    Why don’t the writers just talk about the trade if/when it ever happens and not because they want to beat a dead horse for a story?

  12. illcomm - Jul 17, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    Congo…. don’t u know Klein does this all the time.

  13. chiadam - Jul 17, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    Please make it stop. Trade him, sign him, deport him, frame him for murder and have him arrested, run him over with a tank, drop him out of an airplane into the deep woods, do whatever it takes. Just get him out of our lives. He’s Brett Favre multiplied by a billion.

  14. bchapman2011 - Jul 17, 2012 at 2:39 PM

    How can you label this as a futile attempt? The Lakers always pull off the impossible trade and Howard has pissed all of his other options away. At the end of the day the Lakers will pull the trigger on this trade even if Howard will not commit to an extension. If Howard does not resign with them then he loses $25,000,000. Do you really think he leaves that on the table? Absolute worst case scenario is a sign and trade deal at the end of the season with NJ and the Lakers will gain a ton of draft picks in return,enabling them to get younger and more athletic in a hurry.

    • chiadam - Jul 17, 2012 at 2:49 PM

      If he won’t leave $25 million on the table then why would Orlando trade him to begin with?

      • bchapman2011 - Jul 17, 2012 at 3:00 PM

        That is why I said the worst case scenario would be a sign and trade at the end of the season. Tsoulfullyully allow him to get paid and the lakers to rebuild.

      • chiadam - Jul 17, 2012 at 3:25 PM

        You’re not making any sense. If he won’t leave the money on the table, there is no need for Orlando to trade him. They’re the team that can offer the extra money now.

  15. leeeroooyjeeenkiiins - Jul 17, 2012 at 2:55 PM

    I have the strongest case of deja vu right now, almost as if I’ve read this story multiple times already…

  16. gmsalpha - Jul 17, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    I don’t see Howard ending up anywhere but Houston, as they’re the only team that isn’t requiring a commitment. Dwight doesn’t want to play for the Lakers, and unfortunately for him, the Nets simply can’t afford him.

    Talking to the L.A is pointless if he won’t agree to a long-term deal. If he would agree, there’s still the issue of Andrew Bynum not wanting to play for what will be a pretty lousy team. Oh, and the Lakers don’t have any draft picks to send.

    It’s really a no-win situation for everyone involved. SMH

    • raidmagic - Jul 17, 2012 at 3:59 PM

      So is Bynum that much worse that they would be a “pretty crappy team”? They were a 3 seed before Howard hurt his back last year.

  17. lmvs2012 - Jul 17, 2012 at 3:08 PM

    Fhuk! This article so fhukin tired hearing this crap!..howard just go play overseas! U dammmm fhuk!

  18. nokoolaidcowboy - Jul 17, 2012 at 3:25 PM

    How come no one refers to him as Suoerman anymore?

    • omniusprime - Jul 17, 2012 at 6:16 PM

      I call the Dwicghtmare – Stuporman because he was always in a stupor in the playoffs.

    • jimeejohnson - Jul 17, 2012 at 9:50 PM

      See my comments below.

  19. steelers4385 - Jul 17, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    I dont like howard anymore. He is such a bad word starting with a big fat capital B.

  20. loungefly74 - Jul 17, 2012 at 3:41 PM

    ..yeah…we have heard this story before…and like a sucker…i am drawn to it every time!

    • jimeejohnson - Jul 17, 2012 at 9:50 PM

      Least you admit it. I salute you!

  21. lakerluver - Jul 17, 2012 at 3:57 PM

    D12 has proven one thing through this whole soap opera: he is not terribly bright. I don’t care what anyone says, a lineup consisting of Nash, Kobe, MWP, Pau and D12 is a serious title contender. There would not be a team in the league that could match up with them. As a matter of fact, the LAKERS without D12 are still a title contender as well. Why doesn’t Howard realize that this is set up perfectly for him?. Kobe and Nash play 2-3 more years and retire. Paul’s deal is up in 3 years. The LAKERS would be left with D12 and millions to spend on another elite free agent or two. D12 would only be 28 or 29, and more than likely a two time champion. Los Angeles would be his city for the rest of his career and he could be the focal point of the franchise. It makes perfect sense that he would “demand” a trade to the the LAKERS. Obviously,at this point he hasn’t. That doesn’t mean the deal won’t happen. I’m still hopeful.

    • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 17, 2012 at 4:56 PM

      Where did you ever get the notion that #1 on Dwight Howard’s priority list is “winning a ring”?

    • jimeejohnson - Jul 17, 2012 at 9:49 PM

      Least you admit getting Howard improves the team. If you can deal with a head case like Mega World War you can easily deal with Superman.

  22. azaanforeal - Jul 17, 2012 at 4:30 PM

    That guy a dunce asss………trust me. that shows type person he is……..he want be a closer and cant shoot free throws.

    What he expect to come to lakers and its going magically be his team………he acting like if he end up in nets its going be his team………no way still going be deron team.

    Smart thing to do and best chance of winning a championship is coming to lakers and in two years time it will be his team when kobe retires……….why don’t he see that…………

    he got some stupid people advising him…….not only will he get max money he would have atleast won a championship setting the stage for many more…………..you don’t you go to a team and be star………….

    Lebron had to wait a year for that happen ……………………

  23. garyprohaska - Jul 17, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    Howard has shown his true character (or lack thereof) over the past two seasons. As a Laker fan, I’d rather have Bynum.

    • Kurt Helin - Jul 18, 2012 at 11:13 AM

      Yes. He hasn’t been childish or a putz at all.

  24. omniusprime - Jul 17, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    Geez Kurt, why even bother writing this article in the first place when you headline it with a “here we go again” comment? Please let’s just stop writing nonsense about the Lakers becoming brain dead enough to sign Dwightmare Coward. This clown doesn’t deserve to ever wear the Laker colors and we’re better off keeping Andrew Bynum because he has potential to get better, the Dwightmare has already peaked in his career and will only go downhill from now on. Let the Nets waste their rubles on him.

  25. brianbosworthisstonecold - Jul 17, 2012 at 6:18 PM

    America needs The Decision Part 2: Electric Boogaloo.

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