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J.R. Smith suggests Lin contract would not go over well in Knicks locker room

Jul 15, 2012, 8:18 PM EDT

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There’s a real question now whether the Knicks will match the Jeremy Lin offer sheet from Houston, a three-year, $25 million offer. They have until Tuesday to decide.

On one hand there is the fact Lin is not worth that much, he’s really not worth the $14.2 million he makes the third year of the deal. With the Knicks just signing Raymond Felton and with Jason Kidd on the roster, the Knicks don’t need him, it’s not a basketball move.

But the Lin contract was never really about basketball — the man sells a lot of jersey, sells tickets and has sponsors lining up. He’s good for business and a deal at $5 million a year, which is what he makes the first two years of the contract. It’s the third year that is in question — is it worth it?

But there’s another consideration for New York: What would it do to the Knicks locker room? J.R. Smith was honest and told Sam Amick of Sports Illustrated it wouldn’t be good.

“I think some guys take it personal, because they’ve been doing it longer and haven’t received any reward for it yet. I think it’s a tough subject to touch on for a lot of guys.”

Carmelo Anthony already called the Lin contract offer “ridiculous.” And in a basketball terms he is right, Lin might be solid starting PG in a few years, but he’s not a $14 million a year guy. Especially not in an NBA world with a punitive looming luxury tax coming.

But this is a business decision. This is a James Dolan decision.

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  1. rob0527 - Jul 15, 2012 at 10:44 PM

    The problem is JR is right. The Knicks are such a bunch of head cases that this would actually be a factor in the locker room. Everyone is always looking to see what the guy next to them makes, and feels they deserve more.

  2. papichulo55 - Jul 15, 2012 at 10:51 PM

    Lets get real. This contract IS about race, and it IS about business. Whats wrong with that!? The NBA is a business, and it wants to market its product to Asia. That is a huge market, where one out of every three people on the planet is Asian. The NBA has to be big there, and using LinSanity is smart business. So, lets stop the race talk. Lets talk basketball.

    LinSanity needs a team that is ready to implement a complimentary system. The Knicks are the wrong team. Mr. Dolan decided that when he fired the coach. You can believe that JR Smith was voicing opinions that were shared by more than one of his team mates. The League needs LinSanity, and Houston is a better fit. Its good business to plant your seeds in the most fertile soil. NY aint that place, and there is nothing wrong with that.

    Good Luck, Mr. Lin. Look forward to seeing you develop your game and your brand.

  3. beardown777 - Jul 15, 2012 at 11:03 PM

    Hey Kurt. Not only were you wrong about the Knicks resigning Lin, you are obviously being a troll in referring to Lins contract as 14 million as though he is getting 14 million a year.

    Lin is getting about 8 million per year which is in line with what a starter would be getting paid. It is a lot of money no doubt, but considering his upside and youth it is not ridiculous.

    How bout you resort to some journalism instead of just trying to troll on the internet.

    • blue18hutthutt - Jul 15, 2012 at 11:47 PM

      Couldn’t have said it any better – Kurt a hack trying to model himself after Florio

      It’s hilarious how every opportunity he gets to bash Lin he doesn’t shy away

    • 1972wasalongtimeago - Jul 16, 2012 at 5:36 AM

      Jeez, I go out of town for a couple days. I give check PBT real quick this AM, and Kidd gets popped, Lin is gone, and Knick fans are freaking out.


      • cantonbound13 - Jul 16, 2012 at 8:48 AM

        You should go out of town more often. Many people would appreciate it.

      • jetstizzi85 - Jul 16, 2012 at 12:22 PM

        freaking out!?!? Really LOL…who is freaking out? This is the business side of basketball and most REAL fans understand that. Would I have liked to have had Lin back? Absolutely but for what the Rockets are giving him it is not worth the risk. Felton and Kidd are more seasoned vets and more capable of handling the PG role for the Knicks.

        The problem with people like you is that you just like to instagate crap online. Which to me is funny in itself. You spend more time “trash’ talking on here then anything else which I guess at your age is the “cool” thing to do.

    • baron30 - Jul 16, 2012 at 8:32 AM

      you really are just trolling w/ the whole “14 million dollar man” stuff….his per year salary is right in line with most starting pgs (with maybe a slight bump for marketing reasons)…people are missing the point: Lin is a RESTRICTED FA, meaning a team would have to blow the Knick out of the water get him and that is what the Rockets have done.

      For clowns like JR and Melo to suggest that they would resent Lin for his contract (which is bloated in year 3) are just ignorant and don’t understand the business or how offer sheets work in the NBA. 3/25 is more than reasonable 23yr pg w/ potential.

      • jetstizzi85 - Jul 16, 2012 at 12:25 PM

        You do understand that neither said they would be mad right? Trust me, if anyone understands the business side of the NBA it is Melo who pretty much traded himself to NY.

        What they both said is 100% accurate. Most players would be upset that Lin gets a huge deal after 35 games ONLY and it is a ridiculous contract to offer him $14M in year 3 (especially since the tax and contract in that 3rd year would have the Knicks pay close to $30M).

        Do you not see the problem with that?

    • zmarchbank - Jul 16, 2012 at 9:16 AM

      Read before you speak. Just because his contract averages out to about 8 million a year doesn’t mean anything.

      His contract is back-loaded which means regardless of what he makes in the first two years, he’s going to make almost 15 million in the third year which is a ridiculous amount for a turnover machine like Lin. That’s in addition to Carmelo and Amare’s contract really getting bad by then too.

      If you were starting a team anyone who would consider paying Lin 15 million a year any given year at this point in his career is crazy. Not to mention when you have Raymond Felton and Jason Kidd on the roster.

      How bout you do some reading instead of just trying to troll on the internet.

  4. oldhoopdawg - Jul 15, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    Of course Lin is not worth the contract, but this is business. Most of these players have big egos so these comments come with the territory. I hope Lin goes to the Rockets for his own good. The Knicks were exciting last year for a short time, but they aren’t going anywhere even if Lin remains a Knick. Woodson has a one track mind…isolation for his star. Carmelo will never lead the Knicks anywhere…look at his record in the playoffs. His ability to lead is terrible. JR should learn to pass the ball to Novak instead of shooting 4 for 20; at times he plays great, but he is inconsistent. Dolan and Carmelo belong together; too bad for Knick fans!

  5. papichulo55 - Jul 15, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    I respectfully disagree that their hate is based on race. These guys are some of the most cosmopolitan guys in the world. Look at the wives and girlfriends, lol…

    They are hating the court time, shots, and yes, money that is going to an unproven talent. These guys are world class competitors They would hate their cousins if they felt that they were given an unfair advantage to compete.

  6. jjviolin1 - Jul 16, 2012 at 12:06 AM

    jeremy…do yourself a favor and leave NY and all the drama, play your game and shut these critics up. people are going to hate because you got more attention. do your thing

    • wjmoffatt - Jul 16, 2012 at 1:19 AM

      People are going to hate because he does get this coverage and his not even a top 20 player at his position!
      Rose, Rondo, Holliday, Williams, Parker, Conley, CP3, Lawson, Miller, Westbrook, DWill, Jennings, Curry, Kyrie, Wall, Rubio, Felton, Hill, Nash, Lowry, Calderon, etc….

  7. yungbuc81 - Jul 16, 2012 at 12:32 AM

    Lin will have the opportunity to prove his worth next season, no matter what team he ends up with. J.R. Smith was just speaking his mind and i think Floyd Maywether would agree with him. Let’s be real the kid is over hyped, he is not even on John walls level yet.

  8. camiller85 - Jul 16, 2012 at 12:36 AM

    I find it hilarious that most anti-black comments get the most like, and any comment that remotely tries to bring a little clarity on someone blacks point of views gets the most dislikes…….Make you want to say hmmmmm!

    • wjmoffatt - Jul 16, 2012 at 1:42 AM

      can’t help ignorant people! All that matters is those that do know the truth cause the others will spend an eternity in after life unhappy.

    • teambringitstrong - Jul 17, 2012 at 11:24 AM

      That’s because we are still saturated with ignorance; on ALL sides.

  9. hktony - Jul 16, 2012 at 1:11 AM


    • thebigkahuna23 - Jul 16, 2012 at 2:46 AM

      Kurt may be illiterate and borderline retatded, among other things, but a racist is not one of them.

      You, however, are a donkey.

    • 808raiderinparadise - Jul 16, 2012 at 5:41 AM

      JR SMITH … LoL dis ninja took off to CHINA during the lockout for $, and he had to hussle his way back to the NBA when it cleared and this sell-out thinks he can judge a deserving person? LOL

      • knightrider1755 - Jul 16, 2012 at 1:30 PM

        JR Smith is a shameless jackal.

  10. wjmoffatt - Jul 16, 2012 at 1:14 AM

    1.) Lin doesn’t deserve close to the contract his getting!
    2.) Don’t give me this stuff about his win %, damn near every single team he beat was a lottery team! Did you not see what happened to him when he played Miami he got destroyed, did you see how many points DWill dropped on him?
    3.) His going to set a record for turnovers averaged, the man will be around 5 turnovers a game!
    4.) Can he guard any point guard in the NBA?
    5.) YES it is because he is Asian. He is the only Asian basketball player that is smart (Harvard) and good a basketball. He makes his people proud, and right fully should not because of his on court success, it’s the same as Tim Tebow, its someone you want to your kids to model after. The Asian community in N.America and Asia will produce a greater profit for Houston than any expense he may bring. And New York is being wise because they want to win now, Houston is in a rebuilding stage so why not make money while you are doing it? It’s smart on their part!

    • wjmoffatt - Jul 16, 2012 at 1:40 AM

      people that dislike you are truly fools! Why don’t you get off the freaking hype, and look at stats. You will be the duma** that will be looking dumb come All Star break

  11. blakspartan - Jul 16, 2012 at 1:37 AM

    yea I don’t know any black player who played 25 games and got a deal like that, most received the league minimum at best

    • wjmoffatt - Jul 16, 2012 at 1:46 AM

      You don’t see Lou Williams getting this hype. Think Nash got a 3 yr 27 million deal. Terrys deal was in Lin’s ball park. It’s ridiculous how much his making for just being Asain. Lil Nate took over for Curry and played better ball.

    • savvybynature - Jul 16, 2012 at 9:17 AM

      I can only assume you’ve either never heard of Andray Blatche or you were being sarcastic.

    • moneybags711 - Jul 17, 2012 at 10:56 AM

      Can you say the name…. Tyrone Lue ??? Really :)

  12. thomaskouns - Jul 16, 2012 at 2:10 AM

    Lin is overrated but these guys have a lot of nerve ripping this kid with all the ludicrous contracts in the league and all the guys who get inflated contracts and then mail it in.

    Also, I sense some racist overtones in those comments. Would those comments have been made if it was an African-American player. I seriously doubt it.

  13. 91devinhester23 - Jul 16, 2012 at 2:13 AM

    wow so many dislikes from angry asians.

    get over it. Your basketball “superstar” had a few good games against lottery teams with crap defenses and promptly got crushed against good defenses and good pgs. He can’t play D and turns the ball over 8 times a game against any non bottom 10 defense teams. He’s only worth this contract because of race and marketability. PERIOD

  14. malcom1985 - Jul 16, 2012 at 3:31 AM

    All of the hate for Jeremy Lin is absolutely ridiculous. People act as if Jeremy Lin is the one who orchestrated this entire thing. The Houston Rockets made the offer, not Jeremy Lin. Who in their right mind would turn down an offer like that? If the Knicks don’t think he’s worth it, then fine, but all of this hoopla from J.R. Smith and Carmelo Anthony and dumb sports writers is garbage. Saying players in the Knicks locker room will be upset because Jeremy got a bigger contract? They should feel bad because they suck. Not because someone else got a large contract. The Knicks were absolute garbage until Jeremy turned it around. This isn’t personal, it’s business. No one on the Knicks has ANY room to complain until they stop being first round exits(and let’s be honest.. the Knicks haven’t been in the playoff discussion in over a decade). To be completely honest, Jeremy Lin is the only reason the Knicks are being discussed today, cause it sure isn’t Carmelo or Amare or even Tyson Chandler putting the Knicks into the headlines, unless you count fracturing your hand because you’re mad your team sucks lol.

  15. sdl65 - Jul 16, 2012 at 6:23 AM

    No skin in this discussion but Lin has made out pretty good here. This contract is way over the top for a guy with his
    unproven abilities. Yes he played some good games but nothing to warrant this kind of money. I say good for him. He’s a smart kid. Take the money while it’s being offered. I think deep down he realizes its close to midnight and his chariot is about to turn into a pumpkin.

  16. 24thesho - Jul 16, 2012 at 6:55 AM

    I am black and from “da hood”, I am from NYC, Lin should be a Knick and J.R. Smith is on some other sh#t. Stephon Marbury had this same attitude with Garnett with they both played with the T-Wolves; sure, it’s a totally different thing, but look what happen to him throughout his entire career and he was as good as any PG in the league, even now Maubury would be as good as andy of the guards in the NBA but who wants to deal with that past attitude. I think Maubury should get another shot in the NBA, btw and I think Stephon Marbury now “gets it”. I don’t think a player like J.R. Smith will ever really “get it”.

    • jimeejohnson - Jul 17, 2012 at 11:17 AM

      Classy comment from a guy who doesn’t have a chip on his shoulder.

  17. nokoolaidcowboy - Jul 16, 2012 at 8:01 AM

    I repeat..JR is an idiot. And this none of his or Anthony’s business. Truth is Lin set a spark when this team needed it most on the floor and in ticket/merchandising. Something Carmelo and Smith couldn’t accomplish together!

    • zmarchbank - Jul 16, 2012 at 9:20 AM

      And then promptly faded to nowhere later in the season. you don’t pay a guy 25 million dollars to be a potential 3rd string spark.

  18. bbk1000 - Jul 16, 2012 at 8:02 AM

    J.R. Smith? This guy never saw a shot he didn’t love, which would be great if he would hit a few.

    Why is this guy talking about being overpaid?

  19. savvybynature - Jul 16, 2012 at 8:38 AM

    Oh man, when Steve Novak sees this contract he’s gonna be pissed!
    What’s that you say? Oh Novak is friends w Lin and would be happy for him?
    Oh, I guess Smith was referring to himself then. You know, the guy who does the same thing as Novak except is worse at it, but still thinks he deserves $10M a year.

  20. baron30 - Jul 16, 2012 at 8:38 AM

    Lin > Doughboy Felton + and old Drunk w/ bad knees in J.Kidd.

    • jetstizzi85 - Jul 16, 2012 at 12:29 PM

      HAHA great name BTW….talking about bad knees in reference to Kidd and your name is Baron – a player who destroyed his right knee in the playoffs CLASSIC

  21. imforbigblue - Jul 16, 2012 at 9:02 AM

    Who cares what melo or that punk thug smith says those two fools are both over paid. Wasn’t it Lin who kept the Knicks winning when melo was out for the 900th time last year? Aslong as melo is a knicks they will never win anything. Dude is a black hole and waaaay over rated

    • jetstizzi85 - Jul 16, 2012 at 12:27 PM

      Funny, was it not Melo who put the Knicks on his back at the end of the season and got them into the Playoffs when Lin was OUT?

      • jimeejohnson - Jul 17, 2012 at 11:18 AM

        Same Melo who put the Knicks out of the playoffs with his one dimensional, no defense, ball hogging.

  22. cornbreadbbqred - Jul 16, 2012 at 9:10 AM

    Consider the source. Mr. Saturday Morning Cartoons Tattoo poster boy. J.R. is just hating because his sister’s got the Bruce Lee put on them girl style in the stands when he found a job (where?), oh, in China! Quit hating J.R., and earn you a decent contract, as if you could put together 2 weeks of consistent play in a season. Do recall as well that young Jeremy stayed in school. Houston knows his marketing potential better than any other team in the league having selected Yao Ming previously. Quit Hating!

  23. sigshane - Jul 16, 2012 at 9:28 AM

    The truth is, Jeremy Lin is only gonna see the first two years of that contract come to fruition.

    He will almost certainly be an amnesty casualty after that second year.

    • reupjosh - Jul 16, 2012 at 3:05 PM

      How will he get amnestied??? Houston already used theirs on Scola and Knicks with Billups.

  24. klownboy - Jul 16, 2012 at 9:31 AM

    The Knicks shouldn’t match. It’s not smart basketball-wise to do so.

  25. swingondeesenuts - Jul 16, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    This is racism pure and simple. These guys have no problem with a balck player gets a bad contract but when an Asian guy is offered the same thing, it’s “ridiculous and bad for the locker room”?

    Please! Stop hating on the man already.

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