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Deron Williams wants no part of the Dream Team vs. 2012 debate

Jul 15, 2012, 12:00 PM EDT

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It’s easy to get sucked up into the debate. It’s compelling, right? The best team arguably ever assembled, but held up in spite of the vast differential in athleticism, conditioning, and speed of the game. The modern team held up as a contradictory juxtaposition, a contrarian’s dream, with Kobe, LeBron, and KD at the forefront.

The debate over who would win in a match of the Dream Team ’92 vs. “We Wish We Had A Name That Rhymed With Team” Team ’12 has broken out over the headlines, with even Michael Jordan himself stepping down from the heavens and taking a break from ruining the Bobcats to chime in on how his guys would destroy the pups, and Kobe Bryant going right back at him, a sign in and of itself of how Bryant considers himself in Jordan’s context.

(Think about that. Who else is going to go right back at Michael Jordan in the press? LeBron James isn’t doing it. Allen Iverson wasn’t doing it. Only Kobe Bryant would have the audacity to question the GOAT and sound reasonable doing it. That’s Kobe.)

But in reality, it’s a ridiculously dumb question. Forget all the impossibilities in trying to really evaluate two sets of players out of their own eras. Forget the injury questions and who gets who with what injury erased. (If today’s team gets Dwight Howard back, does the Dream Team get Larry Bird at full strength?) Forget the fact that this argument has no discernible conclusion and more importantly, absolutely no impact on anything real or imagined in this world.

It’s the Dream Team. You’re not fighting reality here. You’re fighting legend. It’s like trying to say “Yeah, Paul Bunyan could chop down a lot of trees, but check out this new forestry machinery we invented! You could actually be able to dwarf a 60-foot-tall man’s production, but guess what? He still has a giant blue ox and you still have a thresher. You’re not winning that fight in public discourse.

One member who understands the power of the reductionist argument? Deron Williams.


And that’s it. “That team was the best ever.” Williams is as fierce a competitor as anyone. After all, he turned down more money to play in a smaller market… wait, no that’s not right. Just kidding. But Williams isn’t going to back down to anyone. And yet he knows that this isn’t a conversation you can win. It’s not about who the actual better team is. It’s just about that perception.

And in that realm, the Dream Team are undefeated.

  1. charlutes - Jul 15, 2012 at 12:31 PM

    Or I could just say the current team would beat 92 badly, because of athleticism, and not get scared off the right point because I’d prefer to romanticize the golden era of basketball that we all loved.

    • drunkenjunk - Jul 15, 2012 at 1:38 PM

      You are stupid. Do you really think in 20 years people have evolved or become magically more athletic? People are the same, the only thing different is the preparation.

      • loungefly74 - Jul 16, 2012 at 8:01 AM

        hmmm…you are probably right, junk. but when you see people setting the bar higher and higher in the olympics every so often, it makes you wonder if the human body is slowly transcending to higher levels. and maybe the preparation is the difference. just an idea…

      • drunkenjunk - Jul 17, 2012 at 7:23 PM

        I understand what you’re saying loungefly. To an extent I think the human body is becoming stronger faster all of that. I just feel like 20 years is impossible. I think a lot of those guys might of been a little better with the knowledge we have now concerning health and preparation. I also don’t see most of those guys holding a candle that was the greatness of the Dream Team. All of those guys would still dominate the game today and I would love to watch any of them in their prime now(minus Laetner).

      • loungefly74 - Jul 18, 2012 at 8:31 AM

        well said.

        ah hey, no love for christian? hehe.

  2. mrpostman985 - Jul 15, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    He is punk !!!

  3. jimcourter - Jul 15, 2012 at 1:03 PM

    I’ll say it again because this bears repeating: The true, original and still the finest Dream Team, in part because of their amateur status, was the U.S. team that played in Rome in 1960.

  4. 49erminer4life - Jul 15, 2012 at 1:10 PM

    The dream team didnt play any good teams. There wasnt many international stars in 92. But the only way this team can win this argument is to win every game by 50

  5. aldavis4president - Jul 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    I honestly.can’t believe people honestly think that the redeem team actually had a chance! U can’t use ur athleticism if u dnt got the ball!! They wud never crash a board over Ewing Barkley etc etc…and the iq iz not even close!!..and to say there Waz comp back then iz nonsense bro.

  6. aldavis4president - Jul 15, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    No comp**

  7. Kevin Gillman - Jul 15, 2012 at 3:30 PM

    Without the 1992 Dream Team, there would never be a 2012 “team we wish we could rhyme with dream just to make it sound cool”. End of discussion.

  8. proballerslounge - Jul 15, 2012 at 4:46 PM

    subscribe to this

    and yea D Will is right

  9. chi01town - Jul 15, 2012 at 4:55 PM

    Kobe has lost his mind, hes still trying to compair his self to Jordan. give it up kobe…. Its not worth the continuous embarassment. You will NEVER be as good as Jordan. You cannot play basketball as well as Jordan, so STOP trying to walk like him an talk like him.. Just be your self

  10. isujames - Jul 15, 2012 at 7:50 PM

    ^ brilliant comment and correct, he has never and never will be as good as Air Jordan and as I said before as far as talent and overall better player, I think A. Iverson was a better baller than Kobe.

  11. isujames - Jul 15, 2012 at 7:52 PM

    D Will = smart man Kobe = a little punk kid like he was@ age 19 when Shaq Biiiiatch slaped him.

    • cornbreadbbqred - Jul 15, 2012 at 10:21 PM

      Oooh! Do you think that actually happened? Shaq pimped slapped Kobe like he tried to do Pat Riley during practice? Shaq is the league’s biggest basketball HO, and there is a reason why he is in no discussion about a legend or a face of a storied franchise and dynasty. As for Kobe and Mike, you probably got two acorns from the same acorn saying the other ain’t!

  12. stayhigh_247 - Jul 16, 2012 at 2:12 AM

    Kd, Lebron & Kobe would be the only guys to get off, and minimally @ best. Athleticism aside, The Dream Teams basketball IQ alone would beat this team. We still talk about them 20 years later. We wont be talking about all the guys on the current lineup in 20 years. These guys played in the hard foul no call era, not this ticky tack breathe on somebody and get suspended era of today. No contest, Dream Team would blow them out! Y, becuz they would take it personal. They didnt even like each other, u think they would care about this group? Not happening!

  13. saint1997 - Jul 16, 2012 at 2:56 AM

    Maybe they could be the Green Team cos they are so damn jealous

  14. diamondmo33 - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:35 AM

    Dream on.

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