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Doc Rivers doesn’t agree with Allen’s reasons for leaving

Jul 9, 2012, 10:40 AM EDT

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In the end, Ray Allen left because Miami made him feel wanted.

Celtics GM Danny Ainge shopped Allen around more than a year — at one point the deal got so far he was told he was being moved only to have it still fall apart last minute. Then he goes to Miami and hears Pat Riley tell him they want him as a player, not some asset. They want him to help get them more rings. It wasn’t about money — Allen has made $178 million in salary alone during his career already — this was about feeling wanted. Not shockingly, Doc Rivers disagrees with Allen’s reasoning.

Rivers was watching the Celtics Summer League team when he told the Boston Herald (via CSNNE.com) he still respects Ray, but….

“No, I didn’t agree, but that doesn’t matter,” he said. “It doesn’t matter what I think. I just wish we could have found a way [to sign Allen], and we didn’t. Always put it on us — it’s easier.” “Kevin Garnett was our focal point, and he should have been,” said Rivers. “If that got anyone ruffled, then that’s probably too bad . . . He probably got bent sideways a bit by us courting Kevin. I really don’t know, honestly.” “He talked to me. It was a good talk,” Rivers said. “You know how I am. A guy makes his mind up, I’m not going to try and change it. I respect him for all he did for us, and I thought he should have stayed with us. Actually, you just have to let it go.”

Celtics fans are not going to let it go the first time Miami comes to Boston next season. Or the second. Or….

But in the end Boston’s management’s past actions could not match the words of Pat Riley. And now Ray Allen will be knocking down threes in a Heat jersey.

  1. reesesteel23 - Jul 9, 2012 at 10:50 AM

    Give it a rest. They’ve had this guy on the trading block for 2 straight seasons, maybe 3. Atleast he’s going somewhere where they want him. He’ll be there until hes too old to get up the court.

    • gmen4life33 - Jul 9, 2012 at 11:26 AM

      Yea, I usually agree with Doc, but not here. GM openly talked abut trading him, basically did trade him, only to have to call Allen back and tell him deal fell apart. Then you give his starting job to Bradley, and sign Terry on top of that.

      All of this after he took less money to stay with the Celtics? Yea, they need to let this go, Allen is not a traitor, he just wasnt being treated very well.

    • mccoy681 - Jul 12, 2012 at 7:50 PM

      Disappointed in Doc Rivers. I understand his wanting Ray Allen back however to be critical of Ray for leaving is sick. Celtics traded Ray at least two times in the last two years. Then want him to backup Avery Bradley and now Avery and Jason Terry. I like Boston, but get over it and be real about what just happened. Boston didn’t want Ray and they didn’t want the Heat to have him. Our Celtics should show more class.

  2. ike73 - Jul 9, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    He’s a traitor and he’s dead to me

    • dannymac17 - Jul 9, 2012 at 11:02 AM

      if it wasnt for Ray hitting big shots in the playoffs and helping you end a title drought, i dont think this traitor talk would exist.

      • mccoy681 - Jul 12, 2012 at 8:06 PM

        Reading fans comments about “free agents” is comical and sad at the same time. I’m a Celtic fan and to the fans that want to tell the players what team they should sign up with after becoming free agents you are sad. You should’ve asked Ray to resign with the Celtics so they can try to trade him “AGAIN”. And ask him to ignore the Terry signing. Then ask him to ignore the 30 plus other NBA teams that want him on their team. Don’t get mad at Ray because you didn’t ask him to ignore the facts that were staring him and his family in the face for two years now.

    • reesesteel23 - Jul 9, 2012 at 11:04 AM

      wow….you need life dude….

    • finsfan71 - Jul 9, 2012 at 11:07 AM

      It’s gonna be fun watching a corpse drain all those threes.

    • truthhurtstoo - Jul 9, 2012 at 11:41 AM

      I don’t think Ray will lose any sleep on him being “dead to you”. lmao!

    • j0esixpack - Jul 9, 2012 at 11:47 AM

      This doesn’t reflect the majority opinion in New England.

      Everyone would prefer to have him back – even with an exceptionally overpaid $12 million 2 year contract (heck – I don’t care what luxury tax the organization has to pay) – but they’d already upgraded their sixth man on the roster with Jason Terry – and had been actively trying to trade him for years.

      Ray Allen is still revered as a UConn icon – he played hard and did the Celtics proud.

      He’s earned the right to play where he wants – where he’s more needed. He will never be considered a traitor.

      • ike73 - Jul 9, 2012 at 12:04 PM

        He can go to hell honestly. May as well have joined the Taliban. Can’t wait to see him try to get those same looks with mario (lol) chalmers as his point guard.

      • borderline1988 - Jul 9, 2012 at 12:45 PM

        How many looks did Rondo get him in the NBA Finals?

        Oh I almost forgot. The Celtics lost to the Heat. For the second straight year.

      • acdc363 - Jul 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM

        Thank you dude. I’d give you ten thumbs up if I could.

      • 1972wasalongtimeago - Jul 9, 2012 at 3:43 PM

        ike73-

        Dude. Is Mario Chalmers the one who creates for the Heat? Do you watch the games? In Boston, Allen had to run about 5 miles a night, through screen after screen after screen, just to get a small window of an opening to shoot from. And Wade had to run 5 miles chasing him.

        In Miami the whole defense collapses to stop LBJ and Wade. Al the while Ray, Miller, Jones, Chalmers, Bosh, Cole, Battier are just standing out there WIDE OPEN. And Wade doesn’t have to work as hard on D now.

        The Heat made thier threes in the finals, but all season it was painful to watch all those wide open shots not go in. Not this year boys. Not this year.

    • mogogo1 - Jul 9, 2012 at 12:26 PM

      And Ray had so enjoyed all the quality time he and “ike73″ shared over the years. How’ll Ray ever get over this?

    • obijuan13 - Jul 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM

      Well then Jesus Shuttlesworth died, was buried by stupid fans and rose again 3 days later in Miami.

  3. stonecld33 - Jul 9, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    I can’t wait til the celtics fans start booing him, and then he knocks down ten threes on them.

    • ccshocktalk - Jul 9, 2012 at 11:20 AM

      They can boo him till they are boo in the face, and Ray will make it rain on their parade with 3 ball after 3 ball after 3 ball. I don’t care if he doesn’t score in any other games besides the ones where he lines up against Boston, that’s all I want…make it rain in bean town. He helped usher in another championship so they try and trade him to the GRIZZLIES. Who is the traitor now ya jock sniffing turds.

      • bozosforall - Jul 9, 2012 at 10:33 PM

        Boston fans have always crapped on any player that DARED to go somewhere else before te Boston teams were finished USING them. Screw you crybaby Boston losers. Glad Ray basically said the same thing by his actions.

  4. jtchernak - Jul 9, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    I never thought ray was that selfish that KG played more than him and that Avery started over him

    • j0esixpack - Jul 9, 2012 at 6:19 PM

      Avery Bradley starting ahead of Allen may have been the primary reason he moved on. Ray clearly isn’t “all about the money” – he’s about taking pride in his game and he will be a much needed role model for the Heat.

      But again – no one should fault Ray for opting to go somewhere where he would get more playing time. Notwithstanding Bradley’s additional surgery, Ray Allen might have been third in the rotation for the Celtics.

      Allen’s got nothing to prove and owes New England sports fans nothing. When they get over the disappointment and realize that Terry is arguably better, and undoubtedly younger and cheaper, I will be surprised if the boos represent more than a minority in the Boston Garden.

      • bozosforall - Jul 9, 2012 at 10:37 PM

        Typical ivory tower posture from a typical New England idiot.

  5. pmd5319 - Jul 9, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    The C’s wanted him so bad that they signed Jason Terry and said, “Ray, you can come off the bench behind Rondo, Bradley, Terry and whoever else we sign this offseason.” It’s going to work out better for both. C’s won’t have to worry about getting everyone enough minutes to be happy, and Ray will get more minutes in Miami than in Boston.

  6. loungefly74 - Jul 9, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    there was nothing wrong with ray ray’s decision. at this point in his career, all that matters, and he has shown by taking less money, is getting another ring.

  7. andyhr17 - Jul 9, 2012 at 11:32 AM

    It’s funny how Heat fans called the Big Three dinosaurs and they’re too slow to compete and they should just retire….Until they sign one of them! Now he’s going to be knocking down three’s and winning titles! Amazing how he got younger and more productive by moving away from a team that you don’t like.

    • miamatt - Jul 9, 2012 at 11:43 AM

      Uhhh…. they are dinosaurs, and some pretty damn good dinosaurs at that. But not one of them is up to the task of carrying a team anymore, which at one point in their respective careers they were. Rondo is the guy and he is what makes that team special, period, point blank.

      I wouldn’t overstate the Allen signing for Miami- he’s not the Ray of ten years ago or even five years ago. But as a three point specialist on a team that generates more wide open perimeter looks than any other in the league? That’s a situation Ray Allen is more than capable of taking advantage of.

    • duane888 - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:57 PM

      They looked like dinosaurs when all 3 were on the court at the same time. That’s the difference. Miami doesn’t have an age problem.

      Besides, the C’s aren’t upset he’s leaving town. They’re upset he’s going to a team they’re trying to catch. That’s why Doc’s mad. Plus Ray knows all of Doc’s plays & strategies.

  8. truthhurtstoo - Jul 9, 2012 at 11:40 AM

    Riley is just a much better closer than Doc. Riley gets what Riley wants! Plus, Ray knows the wheels are falling off in Beantown.

    • andyhr17 - Jul 9, 2012 at 11:53 AM

      It’s not that hard of a sell. Come play with some of the best players in the league in a perfect climate where you’re the 4th option that will always be open to shoot.

      Also, I don’t want to hear about how the wheels are falling off in Boston. According to people the wheels have been falling off for about 4 years and they keep going far in the playoffs. You don’t need to be young and flashy to win titles, that just helps bring in the fair-weather fans.

      • bozosforall - Jul 9, 2012 at 10:41 PM

        The biggest fair-weather fans reside in New England. You couldn’t find a Pats fan pre-2001, a Red Sox fan pre-2004, a Celtics fan pre-2007 nor a Bruins fan pre-2011. The hypocrisy runs rampant in Boston, that’s for sure.

      • andyhr17 - Jul 10, 2012 at 7:55 AM

        Bozo, please go back into hiding.

  9. woop2012 - Jul 9, 2012 at 11:53 AM

    It is going to be difficult for Celtics fans like my 85 year old mom and me, to not see Ray with the big GREEN CELTICS on his jersey, still, I don;t fault Ray for moving on. Pro sports is among the most cut throat businesses in existence, so going to a team with the vibes are better for an individual player makes eminent sense to me.

    Good luck Ray, except when you go up against the DYNASTY of pro basketball, the BOSTON CELTICS!!

  10. papichulo55 - Jul 9, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    Good move, Ray! I’ve been hatin the Celtics since ‘Havlicek stole the ball’!

    Did I mention that I’m from Philly, and I now live in East Flatbush in Brooklyn. Gonna enjoy watchin my Nets give it to Boston. Maybe DHoward can frustrate and deny KG, the same way Russel defeated Chamberlain. I cant wait!

    Yup. I GOT ISSUES!

    • andyhr17 - Jul 9, 2012 at 12:11 PM

      Because if Dwight Howard is anything, he’s clutch in the playoffs! right?

      • 1historian - Jul 9, 2012 at 8:35 PM

        zap

  11. ndrocks2 - Jul 9, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    Sad to see him go? Maybe, let’s see what’s in the tank and as far as signing/focusing on Garnett before Allen that is common sense, both are high risk multiple year signings but go with a big over a one dimensional player, not much thought needed there. Good luck Ray, J. Howard got his ring this year with the Heat so at a minimum you two can catch the early bird together next year and have the best seat in the house. Seriously hope you go out on a high note and you are everything you think you should be.

  12. dunkindan - Jul 9, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    Jesus Shuttlesworth hit so many big time three’s in the playoffs for the Celtics. He played his role out and got the championship. Now he wants more rings from South Beach. He has a hell of a workout regime for an NBA Player in his mid 30′s and with Wade and James on the floor he will be deadly for a few more years with that quick stroke of his. Rondo never was a 3 point threat but with Wade and Chalmers its different. Now that James learned his game is in the post where he can dominate we will see Ray Allen do his thing all of next season.

  13. papichulo55 - Jul 9, 2012 at 12:34 PM

    Nobody can say, with a straight face, that the Celtics are better without Ray Allen. The Celtic System has always been about top quality guard play. From Cousy, Sam Jones, KC Jones, Jo Jo White, Dennis Johnson, Nate Archibald, Rondo… Boston will miss Ray Allen.

    As for DHoward and the playoffs? If he gets to play with such top-level guards as Williams and ex-Celtic Joe Johnson, the entire Eastern Conference will be put on notice. And KG and Pierce will never play for another Boston banner…

    • jamesbmckay - Jul 9, 2012 at 1:24 PM

      They’re already better with Green back and Terry coming in. Good luck when the traitor needs to guard someone. I certainly believe, as a lifelong Celtic fan, that our guards are better with RR and AB starting. Looking forward to them shutting RA down as they’re quicker and much better defenders. There’s a reason Bradley won the starting job as he’s a better all-around player that the one-dimensional, stand at the 3-line, and defend no one player you just got. The Cs covered for his deficiencies for years. Yes, he would have added to our team, but we’ll be just fine going forward. And last I looked you still need a PG and center.

      • heat256 - Jul 9, 2012 at 1:47 PM

        Isn’t Bradley hurt? Again? Jeff Green, who underwhelmed in OKC and a limited time in Boston? The Celtics will still be in the East title picture, but given the quality of the teams in the East, that isn’t saying much. If you’re counting on Green, Bradley and Terry to do your heavy lifting, then you are in trouble. The Heat, who just PROVED you don’t need a traditional C anymore, have Ray Allen as their FOURTH BEST PLAYER. If they get Lewis as a healthy contributor, small ball will make a welcome return to the league and I see MIA winning it all next year, and hopefully ending the Celtics run in the East once and for all and let the Nets and Bulls pose a better challenge.

      • soflasfinest - Jul 9, 2012 at 2:43 PM

        @jamesbmcay the last I looked we are the CHAMPS. Just say ya we will miss ray knocking down 3′s. Hopefully AB will fill rays shoes in the years to come. End of story

      • scalfor3 - Jul 9, 2012 at 3:36 PM

        i think they will be better this year, but ray does far more than just stand at the 3 point line. dudes a pretty good all around player, but his shooting is so good that everything else gets ignored.

        nets are a joke. the “superteam” thing only works if your guys are legit HOFers, not joe johnson

  14. infectorman - Jul 9, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    “And now Ray Allen will be GOING COLD AT THE MOST INOPPORTUNE TIME OF THE GAME in a Heat jersey.”

    NOW it’s accurate, Kurt.

  15. allthewaylive1 - Jul 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    I’m waiting to hear what Ray has to say about his choice to play for the Heat.

  16. canehouse - Jul 9, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    So Ike if you Allen is dead to you for bolting to a better team for less money after giving your team 5 really productive, fantastic, and meaningful seasons… where does Len Bias stand with you? May he rest in peace… but he didn’t give your C’s anything other than what many in Boston believed that his tragic passing was the begining of a long run of misfortunes and mediocre to abysmal seasons for the Boston Celtics. Wasn’t Ray Allen a big part of removing the dark cloud that seemed to hang over the C’s franchise?

  17. magicbucs - Jul 9, 2012 at 1:42 PM

    He could barely hit a 3 in these last playoffs. Looks like the mommas boy just wants to do less work for a ring. With the heat all he has to do is spot up hit a few 3′s every few games. Like miller and Battier did.. Sounds like a coward to me tho. I lost all respect for that mommas boy.

    • soflasfinest - Jul 9, 2012 at 2:46 PM

      Coming from a MAGIC fan you should know about shooting 100 3′s a game and playing no defense. Loser

  18. dirtbaggery - Jul 9, 2012 at 1:49 PM

    We have a pg and a center his name is lebron

  19. dre10243 - Jul 9, 2012 at 8:40 PM

    im happy for ray allen. he dont owe boston nothing. for two season str8 the management disrespected him and not to mention him and rondo dont get along. as a player i wouldnt want all that tension

  20. torothebronxbull - Jul 10, 2012 at 12:00 AM

    @bozosforall

    Fair weather fans? No u didn’t! You didn’t JUST GO THERE! This comes from a Miami dolphin fan base who we haven’t heard from in over 25 years…a stadium which has to put TARPS over their seats cuz they can’t fill ‘em…a Miami Heat fan base which was TOTALLY non existent from the time Alonzo Mourning retired, until the time LeBum made his “decision” to come to South Beach….a Marlin fan base who we heard from in just one year, 1997, and a Panther fan base who I don’t even think exists…wait, do the Panthers still play in South Florida?!

  21. charlutes - Jul 10, 2012 at 12:19 AM

    Pat Riley gets credit because Allen wants starters minutes on a better team? Pat Riley sat back as wade recruited lebron and bosh, now every aging vet who doesn’t want to drive the lane and wants another ring wants to play with lebron and wade cuz they do the dirty work. its a joke that u constantly crown Riley for being lucky.

  22. asainta - Jul 10, 2012 at 8:16 PM

    First off, Ray was traded to Boston, so he probably didn’t choose to be there. They happened to have another decent player in Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett actually was trying to get out of the ‘sota situation so he had nothing to lose going to a team with two future HOF’ers. Ray played out his contract and there wasn’t “The Decision” and he quietly went about his business for a couple of days and signed with Miami. Ray is actually lucky that he was traded to Boston becausd he wasn’t getting any closer to a ring in Seattle. Although Miami is the better team right now, Boston’s no punk. They shouldn’t even be mad because Miami/Boston isn’t really a rivalry in the grand scheme of things. Boston has 17 Championships to Miami’s 2 (i.e. Dallas/Lakers rivalry?) And I’m not a fan of either Boston or LA. It’s like the perfect divorce without alimony or child support if you think about it!!

  23. poloregal1 - Jul 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    Look, u dont think the spurs have looked to explore trade options with manu. This man has been in n out of the starting lineup for 10 years. He put teamfirst before pride. Ray doesnt have the terry-manu vision n see that doing whats best for the team could get u another ring. How we could we beat the heat when one of our players want to play with them. Honestly, if u a true competitor, like kg n rondo, this loss to the heat should still be affecting you. Really. Anyone who disagrees must be cool with losing. And i dont wanna hear that u must move on crap. Ray allen is a punk and a traitor, he showed his true colors. He thinks teaming up with the champs is cool, wait til we eliminate them next year and he retires, lol. Going to be fun. Cant wait. Who honestly is better than us in the east. We just drafted a top 5 talent, added a big man, terry and might be adding courtney lee and will have jeff green back, who really wants it with us. How many teams have gotten better than us. Heat added our leftovers and lewis, pathetic!!

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