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Details of potential Dwight Howard trade leaking. Magic get Lopez, picks.

Jul 9, 2012, 4:54 PM EDT

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UPDATE 4:54 pm: The Clippers may be the fourth team in the deal, reports both Ken Berger at and Chad Ford at ESPN. The Clippers would send a first round pick to the Nets for MarShon Brooks, then the Nets would ship that pick to the Magic as part of the deal.

This appears to be getting very close.

Here is the deal as ESPN describes it now:

According to sources the Nets would receive Howard, Jason Richardson, Chris Duhon and Earl Clark in the proposed deal. The Magic would get Brook Lopez in a sign-and-trade, Luke Walton, Damion James, Shelden Williams, Armon Johnson and three first-round picks — two from the Nets and a lottery protected first from the Clippers. The Cavs would get Kris Humphries in a sign-and-trade, Quentin Richardson, Sundiata Gaines, a first round pick from the Nets and three million in cash. The Clippers would receive MarShon Brooks.

2:26 pm: We start with this disclaimer — this deal is not yet approved. And complex deals can fall apart fast.

But this one is picking up steam and details of what the Dwight Howard three-team trade involving the Nets and Cavaliers might be are starting to leak out.

The deal remains in flux, but Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports (and who you can see on the NBC Sports Network tonight) broke down the details of the trade as of right now.

In the proposed deal, Howard, Jason Richardson and Earl Clark would be sent to Brooklyn, and the Magic would receive the Nets’ Brook Lopez, Damion James, Sheldon Williams, Cleveland’s Luke Walton and three future first-round picks, sources said. Cleveland would receive Orlando’s Quentin Richardson, Brooklyn’s Sundiata Gaines, Kris Humphries (on a one-year guaranteed deal), a first-round pick and $3 million from the Nets. Brooklyn also would send (MarShon) Brooks to a fourth team to get them an additional first-round pick to send to the Magic.

Both teams will want their doctors to examine the other key people in this trade — the Nets want to look at Howard’s back, the Magic at Lopez’s foot.

Even after that there are a lot of questions. Will Humphries sign a one-year deal in Cleveland or will he demand the security of a multi-year deal. Will Brooks agree to sign wherever he might land? What kind of picks can the Nets get for MarShon Brooks?

Then the big one, is this the best the Magic can do?

It’s a whole lot less than the Hornets were able to get back for Chris Paul.

You never get equal value trading an NBA superstar. There are maybe 10 (Bobcats GM Rich Cho will say less than that) in the NBA and you need one or more to win. When you get one, you fight not to let him go. And if you have to move him you never get equal value because you’re not getting another franchise anchor back.

But the question becomes, how much can you get back? What is enough?

That’s the question Orlando’s front office is weighing.

The Nets are pushing for it because if they land Howard to go with Deron Williams and Joe Johnson, they are a powerhouse title contender.

  1. bigzant82 - Jul 9, 2012 at 6:05 PM

    brooklyn get this done asap

  2. ch8878 - Jul 9, 2012 at 6:07 PM

    The Magic are completely gutting this team all I can say is thanks Ozzy for setting the Magic back 5-10 years.

    Now why not trade Turk and Big Baby ? Might as well go to complete rebuilding mode.

    Also who is the back up PG, SG ?

    After this trade they should have allot of money to spend.

  3. latchbeam - Jul 9, 2012 at 6:08 PM

    Exactly… Cleveland has everything to gain… nothing to lose from this.

  4. findthetruth90 - Jul 9, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    I really feel like this is going to backfire. They are going to have a horrible nobody to back up Dwight when he is in foul trouble. Of course they will be relevant but there no where near the heat when it comes to talent and depth especially with the ray Allen signing. Joe Johnson is the perfect secondary “shooter” guy but his shooting percentages are pretty sub par, he may pick that up not being the go to guy. I’m not the type that thinks the season is pointless but I know it’s going to be the heat vs the nets in the ECF for a little while, I just believe they will always fall short with Dwight as a star player big men don’t win you championships anymore. But then again I’m a heat fan.

  5. ch8878 - Jul 9, 2012 at 6:24 PM

    If the lottery protected first from the Clippers turns into the #1 overall pick watch all the NBA is rigged stuff fly, plus if the Magics own 1st round pick becomes a top 10 pick that would be the 3rd team in a row after losing a superstar getting 2 top 10 picks.

    Cleveland, Lebron left, 1st overall pick and 3rd overall pick
    New Orleans, CP3 left, 1st overall pick and 10th overall pick
    Magic, Howard left, ?????????

    There is no doubt in my mind its rigged but 3 years in a row would just take the cookie.

  6. dsoffer - Jul 9, 2012 at 6:37 PM

    I’m laughing while reading this post. How can Orlando get more for Dwight when he refuses to go anywhere but one place. You can’t compare him to Paul or Anthony as they had a willingness to go somewhere else other than one team. Why would anyone bid for someone’s services (like the Lakers) when you know he isn’t going to stay. Guys like that can destroy your team (Like I don’t know, see the Magic last year) COMMON SENSE!

    With only one team to make the offer, the Magic should at least be happy they are getting some useable pieces in return. They are essentially without any leverage whatsoever. As to those who ask why deal at all. The answer is simple. When you are the GM you only have about 3 years to make your mark. Letting your superstar leave for free can kill a GM as it will take years to recuperate. Why do you think Cleveland and Toronto helped get their players to the Heat. Because any GM realizes to spite the superstar and get nothing in return is a awful business deal. Any draft picks you can get in return can help salvage and possibly turn to a serviceable player and maybe hitting the one out of a million jackpot. Just keep in mind the GM point of view when you ask your team or any team to hold onto a superstar bound to leave.

    My final point on this issue, if the NBA was serious about taking power from the superstars, they would have eliminated the sign and trade. It gives all the power to the player. Without the sign and trade, the superstar would have to leave $26 million at the table to leave. How many would truly do that???? Until that happens superstars are rare and will have all the power knowing their teams are desperate to get something in return for them and will allow them to sign and trade just so they can have a chance to get back to being competitive as quickly as possible.

    • chrmngblly - Jul 16, 2012 at 6:32 PM

      This is a lame trade for Orlando. How many mid-round draft picks do you suppose they will need to get one Howard or Bynum? I have no respect for Howard or Orlando.

  7. ddmcd1974 - Jul 9, 2012 at 7:02 PM

    What none of you seem to realize is that the Magic convinced Howard to sign that one year opt in so they could get something back. Prior to that he would have been free to go anywhere. I think he signed it because he would have gotten killed more than he is, if he just left. Please think before you write.

  8. zacmonte - Jul 9, 2012 at 8:39 PM

    The clippers giving up just a first in order to get Marshon Brooks?
    Wow, they are robbing this trade blind.
    I don’t see why the Magic wouldn’t just take them out of the deal and just take Brooks, the kid can score at a high level. Better than anything they are going to do with a first from the Clippers, who in this trade only get better. The deal proposed last week is much better than this for the magic. I understand the whole “OKC Model” thing with building through the draft, but if you have the opportunity to choose between a young talent who has shown he can score well in the NBA or a mid-late first, you take the young talent that has proven he can score 10 times out of 10.

  9. thetooloftools - Jul 9, 2012 at 9:25 PM

    This is turning into Pimps fighting over a Whore.

  10. nightrain42 - Jul 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM

    Amazing how that jack ass Dan Gilbert bitched about the CP3 trade last year, but he is all in on this deal? Jackass!

  11. fnc111 - Jul 9, 2012 at 10:07 PM

    The league is rigged. If you aren’t the Knicks, Nets, Heat, Celtics, Lakers, Clippers or Sterns team in OKC you are not getting jack in terms of FA signings or ok’d deals from Stern.

    • couldntthinkofaname - Jul 11, 2012 at 6:06 AM

      I bet you believe that conspiracy theory that there was a frozen envelope when the Knicks won the right to draft Ewing, too.

  12. fordmandalay - Jul 9, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    If this goes through, will Commissioner Scumbag (er, Stern) step in to nullify it because it’s not ‘fair’enough to the Magic? Oh sorry, that standard only applies to the Lakers. There’s a different set of rules for the rest of the league.

  13. edavidberg - Jul 9, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    I don’t believe this for a second. Brooks is worth more than a low first rounder. This doesn’t make any sense, man.

  14. charlutes - Jul 10, 2012 at 12:13 AM

    I said it a long time ago. the only plausible outcome is traded to the nets since he won’t sign long term anywhere else.

  15. badintent - Jul 10, 2012 at 2:33 AM

    This just in , Chris Rock and Spike Lee were traded for 2 clowns at the Rodeo ! Now we get to see Chris’s bull throw Chris and his bull further than Chris ‘s own bullsh*t…………. “Happy white man’s day and a good white man’s sport to you, Chris.” Here’s hoping you make the ER room before you go DOA.IN other news, TMZ is reporting that Basketball Wifes will challenge the tag team of Kardashsian Clan……………………………….

  16. mojosmagic - Jul 10, 2012 at 9:39 AM

    Any team that “helps” facilitate a deal to create another superstar team are complete and utter idiots. And what does the Orlando get other then 3 late round picks? I rather force Howard to play another year in Orlando then give in to this charade. Only in the NBA.

    • watermelon1 - Jul 10, 2012 at 1:43 PM

      I think the majority of people are just happy once a deal is done so we don’t have to hear the media try and pry an answer from Howard as to what he’s thinking, we don’t have to hear Howard say one story then completely reverse it the next day, and we don’t have to hear Stan Van Gundy at all.

      There’s still going to be the Heat and Celtics, so another “superstar team” only helps create the chance of some parity in the East.

  17. watermelon1 - Jul 10, 2012 at 1:41 PM

    I think people are severely overrating Joe Johnson… but whatever. Perhaps playing alongside Williams and Howard will give him the help he needs to take a few steps forward.

  18. fanz928 - Jul 10, 2012 at 4:40 PM

    In this deal why do u really need cavs any team would want better players and cash and a first round I bet the rockets would live to be the third team

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