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Camby will still meet with Heat after Allen signing, sign-and-trade possible

Jul 7, 2012, 9:00 AM EDT

LaMarcus Aldridge, Marcus  Camby AP

They got LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh. They got Shane Battier. They landed Ray Allen Friday night.

The rich could get even richer.

Yahoo Sports reports that Marcus Camby will still visit the Miami Heat on Saturday. How on Earth, with the money the Heat have committed, could they possible add Marcus Camby and his more-than-vet-minimum salary? Easy. Same way the Lakers snagged Steve Nash. You construct a sign-and-trade with Houston who owns Camby’s Bird Rights as a free agent. From Chris Tommasson of Fox Sports:

After a source said earlier in evening Houston would be open to a possible Marcus Camby sign-and-trade, a source said Camby will keep his visit with the Heat on Saturday in Miami. He is not interested in coming to Miami for the $1.35 million veteran minimum, which is all they have left due to Ray Allen getting the $3.09 million exception. As I was tweeting right when news broke about Allen coming to Miami, could Shane Battier, a draft pick and cash entice the Rockets for Camby?

via Chris Tomasson’s post on NBA Free Agency | Latest updates on Sulia.

You have to think this is excessive. I mean, really. The defending NBA champions which features LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Mario Chalmers, Udonis Haslem, and Shane Battier adds Ray Allen and Marcus Camby? Even at Camby’s age, he fits perfectly on the Heat. He’s the center they’ve been shopping for, a legitimately tall, long center who has veteran experience and can still challenge at the rim. Camby’s somewhere in-between Joel Anthony and Zydrunas Ilguaskas in terms of skillset and age. He would add another layer to what the Heat bring to the table and make them that much tougher.

All within the rules of the new CBA that was supposed to hurt super teams.

Camby’s not going to be any sort of game-changer for Miami, but it does make them stronger. And you can ask the Celtics and Thunder. They don’t need to get any stronger. Scary times for the rest of the league, if Riley pulls this off.

What can the Heat offer the Rockets? Does it matter at this point? Morey’s up to something that’s long, involved, and is either aimed at a huge move or a rebuild. If he can get anything for Camby, it’s a win. This is possible, if unlikely.

  1. dylude - Jul 7, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    Norris Cole + unprotected 2015 1st round pick should do it (reverse lottery protected in 2013 & 2014)

    Keep Battier. Parsons doesn’t need to be mentored by anyone. McHale can handle the rookies just fine and after trading Lowry the locker room should be just fine so no need to talk about Battier’s “character”.

    If the Rockets are going to hand the Heat a couple more championships they can part with a cheap rookie they have no PT for and a future draft pick that won’t be needed by their team until after the big 3 are done.

  2. fergie22 - Jul 7, 2012 at 9:14 AM

    does miami operate with no salary cap are there special rules for them i am done with the nba this is a joke and the thugs are running the show

    • truthhurtstoo - Jul 7, 2012 at 9:18 AM

      We all feel your pain…. enjoy watching the HEAT pile up Championships!

      • fergie22 - Jul 7, 2012 at 9:34 AM

        won`t be able to enjoy it as i said i am done with the nba

      • lucky5934 - Jul 7, 2012 at 6:21 PM

        That is just what I like… Let’s watch the Heat get cocky and arrogant as they sign on talent like someone turned off the salary cap setting on a video game. I want them cocky, just like last year. That way when they play against other teams in the playoffs, they willl once again have the weight of the world against them. It makes the moment they are upset against a huge underdog that much more enjoyable. Just how I like it!

    • deeballer - Jul 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM

      I guess you don’t know that Wade, James, and Bosh did restructure their contract so they could sign Haslem and Miller. These guys went there with an agreement amongst themselves to take less money to win championships.

    • turnmymicup - Jul 7, 2012 at 10:19 AM

      fergie22 I haven’t read’ a comment that lame in a while. If you don’t understand the rules GOOGLE them. You have the world at your fingertips! Blaming Pat Riley and Micky Airson for knowing how to work the system is stupid. “Thugs” have nothing to do with the mid level exception Allen took. Nor the Veteran minimum all of us Heat fans HOPE Camby takes a paycut for. Learn the game before posting on a basketball blog. GO HEAT!

    • asgfl1 - Jul 7, 2012 at 11:46 AM

      fergie22 – Learn about the rules. You do sound kind of extremely ignorant. Or hater? Loser?

    • ear123 - Jul 7, 2012 at 4:53 PM

      Wow! Re: ” nba this is a joke ” .

      You’re a true CRACK HEAD And a DOPE ! Apparently, you don’t know much/enough about the NBA [ Collective Bargaining Agreement ] AKA , the legal rules on trading/aquiring players, and salary cap.

      The Heat are in a “unique” situation where they have legally aquired R. Allen and maybe now M.Camby. The reason? They have balanced/managed their salary cap so well and thats why they are able to do it.! They didn’t “STEAL” any players like the THUGS you are claiming them to be. This is called good CBA management.

      Wait, I see the problem here, you’re still suffering from the 3rd degree burns that the HEAT unleashed on you and your team. You haven’t recovered yet and are still finding something new to “hate” on LeChamp and the Heat.

      What a loser. Learn the NBA Business, grow up and stop whining.!

  3. tomtravis76 - Jul 7, 2012 at 9:35 AM

    Could Wade, Bosh and Lebron restructure their deals for a little less money, because endosements are piling up, to just make this thing run a little longer with titles?

    Its easy for an outsider to say just go down to about 12 million per year for each guy. That would seemingly open up alot of cap space for the Heat.

    • cantonbound13 - Jul 7, 2012 at 2:58 PM

      You are the typical Heat bandwagon fan. NBA deals can not be restructured. They have always been guaranteed. I understand most Heat fans just started watching basketball 2 years ago & think they know it all. That’s why we see posts on here saying LeBron is the best of all time.

  4. knightrider1755 - Jul 7, 2012 at 9:37 AM

    Miami would be a perfect fit for Camby. He’ll play more and win a ring like Ronnie Turiaf. Go figure.

  5. deeballer - Jul 7, 2012 at 10:04 AM

    The only room they have for Camby is a veterans minimum since Turiaf didn’t resign with them unless James Jones and/or Mike Miller retires and that would free up a little more money for other signings.

    • deeballer - Jul 7, 2012 at 10:05 AM

      Oh, I forgot that Eddy Curry and Juwan Howard won’t be back so there’s a little more money there for Camby.

      • Kurt Helin - Jul 7, 2012 at 11:17 AM

        They are over the tax line. The only ways Camby could come to Heat are to take veteran minimum (he said he wouldn’t) or a sign-and-trade with Houston.

  6. teambringitstrong - Jul 7, 2012 at 10:19 AM

    Actually this isn’t the best thing in the world for the Heat. they get saddle with a lot of dead contracts and puts even more pressure on them to win. Let’s see if the lightening is still in the bottle..

    • jimmymarlinsfan - Jul 7, 2012 at 10:29 AM

      really? They are saddled with vets near retirement playing for the minimum because they want a ring and Miami is a class organization

      Get ready for a snowball to run downhill all over the rest of the league. A snowball started by Pat Riley as this is exactly what he envisioned for the Heat when he arrived

    • asgfl1 - Jul 7, 2012 at 11:57 AM

      Are you in La la land bobo? Without Bosch for a while and then back at 70% and Wade at 50% they beat the crapp of the League, what do you expect will happen with reinforcements? If Mike Miller with the mobility of the Statue of Liberty killed the Thunder, what do you think will happen when Ray Allen gets all the time in the world to shoot? Wake up and stop the trash talking. Or hate… Loser…

  7. reedme16 - Jul 7, 2012 at 10:26 AM

    Really fergie22, the thugs? If you think anybody on the Heats team is a thug then you probably never really enjoyed the NBA anyways. People are crybabies. Heat get a 38 year old Ray Allen, chase a 38 year old Camby for a $5 mil a year sign n trade, and people act like the league is rigged. While the Lakers are $20 mil over the cap and get an allstar every year in some bogus trade. Grow up.

    On another note I am really oppossed to Miami giving up any young assets for Camby. Definitely not Norris because we haven’t even seen his potential. Houston loves draft picks….hopefully they will take that!

  8. buffalowned - Jul 7, 2012 at 10:28 AM

    Joel anthony and a 2nd round pick

    • 1972wasalongtimeago - Jul 7, 2012 at 11:14 AM

      You got the right player, but I’m afraid it might be the 1st we got from Philly in the trade-down last week.

      • buffalowned - Jul 7, 2012 at 11:35 AM

        why is a 38 year old free agent not named steve nash worth a 1st round pick?

    • miamatt - Jul 7, 2012 at 11:48 AM

      Every team would love to have a player with Joel Anthony’s heart and hustle, but in no way shape or form will a rebuilding team take on Anthony’s contract. It may not be extravagant by NBA standards but it is extravagant by Joel Anthony standards. He is not a minimum salary guy.

      And forget about trading Battier- he needs to be locked in as a starting forward the next two years. His defense and tenacity were almost as important as Lebron’s overall dominance in making the combo-forward approach successful. Not to mention one of the lures in coming to Miami is organizational loyalty- try signing another vet to the mini-mid level after you ship a guy who just helped you win a championship. Neither Battier nor Ray Allen need worry about being dangled in trade scenarios. Which was as big as anything in bringing down the former Celtic.

      Somebody mentioned trading Cole as well- and i would say no to that, too. There is a limited amount of good young talent that Miami will see for the next 5+ years, and they need to hold on to those guys when they get ’em. That kid is fearless.

      If Miami can’t get this done with draft picks, so be it. The 1st rounder we got from Philly for next year plus a couple of future 2nd rounders sound OK to me. It’s much better than nothing.

      • buffalowned - Jul 7, 2012 at 12:56 PM

        you’re over analyzing this….he’s a free agent** anything they get for him is better than getting nothing if he signs somewhere else. he’s a 38 year old looking for 3 mil a year you can’t seriously tell me he’s worth a first round pick and two 2nd’s that’s ridiculous

    • cantonbound13 - Jul 7, 2012 at 2:59 PM

      Joel Anthony???? Are you kidding me?

      • buffalowned - Jul 7, 2012 at 5:35 PM

        dude you are the biggest joke on these message boards no one takes anything you say seriously…refer to heat256’s comment below

      • cantonbound13 - Jul 8, 2012 at 11:07 AM

        yet you listen & reply. Go masturbate to your LeBron poster. You probably still live with your parents.

  9. lastdukestreetking - Jul 7, 2012 at 11:03 AM

    Regarding a question above, contracts cannot be restructured as in the NFL.

  10. samwade611 - Jul 7, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    Can you feel the Heat down in your soul….Battier isnt going anywhere, but Anthony probably since he didnt play in the finals and has 2 yrs left on deal at 5 mil pr yr

  11. 1972wasalongtimeago - Jul 7, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    What does it say about the Cleveland Cavalier organization that stars (and superstars) take less money to play with LBJ in Miami all 3 years he’s been here, and the Cavs couldn’t get ONE to do that in the 7 years he was there. Not one.

    • cantonbound13 - Jul 7, 2012 at 3:02 PM

      Since when are Zadrunis Ilgauskis, Shane Battier, Ronny Turiaf, Eddie Curry, Juwan Howard, Mike Bibby & an old Ray Allen “superstars”?

      • heat256 - Jul 7, 2012 at 4:08 PM

        Canton, since when were you considered someone with a rudimentary knowledge of the NBA? Oh, never. My bad. I’m sure you’ll pile onto whatever team faces MIA in a playoff series. Just another momma’s boy trolling the internet instead of meeting girls or getting sun. Face it: MIA is making smart moves and putting things together in ways no other teams can do right now. Anyone crowing about Johnson and Williams on the Nets as a legitimate NBA power are delusional. You have three players in their prime and good to great complimentary pieces around them who will provide relief for the heavy lifting the Big Three must do and allow them to be ready for the playoffs. I forsee another trophy celebration in 2013. Deal with it.

      • 1972wasalongtimeago - Jul 7, 2012 at 7:01 PM

        Dwyane Wade?

      • cantonbound13 - Jul 8, 2012 at 11:06 AM

        Wade was already on the Heat. You, just like most of these bandwagon jumpers, don’t know anything about the NBA before 2 years ago.

  12. ashutto20 - Jul 7, 2012 at 11:46 AM

    dont have a nba team just love the game in general but my ? is why was there a lockout???…

    All the bigger rating teams get better while the lower rated teams get no help…wonder what stern has to be thinking

    • miamatt - Jul 7, 2012 at 1:32 PM

      The reality is incompetent management leads to mediocre teams. San Antonio And OKC show that location and size of market are only a problem if you use that for an excuse. Hell, the Knicks have shown as well as any other team that a large payroll and large market don’t mean a thing when terrible front offices make terrible decisions.

      Was the lockout supposed to make Miami suck? It’s funny how no matter how the rules change, well-run organizations continue to thrive. Could there be a connection? Hmmmmm….

      • 00maltliquor - Jul 7, 2012 at 9:59 PM

        Good one. I’ll co-sign on that statement.

  13. madmediaman - Jul 7, 2012 at 11:53 AM

    This is a joke and this league is quickly devolving into one as well. Heck, why not sign Melo and Kobe. I’m sure Wade and Lebron can “restructure” some more.

    Here’s a wild idea NBA, how about limiting the number of players who can restructure their contracts on a team? How about tying league minimum salaries to the NBA’s new production stat? So the league minimum for a player like Marcus Camby would be through the roof compared to some end of the bench role player thus prohibiting teams from stacking up All-Star caliber (or former All-Star) talent.

    • edweird0 - Jul 7, 2012 at 1:04 PM

      You’re an idiot.

  14. digit960 - Jul 7, 2012 at 1:43 PM

    Did someone on here actually suggest trading Norris Cole and a 1st round draft pick for Camby? Seriously? Put the pipe down slowly

    • ear123 - Jul 7, 2012 at 5:08 PM

      Hey……dighit960…… Did you notice ? No one has ‘voted you down’ yet.

      I guess all the LeBron & Heat HATERS are too busy smoking their CRACK. I’m sure they will start voting your comment DOWN, after they finish “smoking” their 20 Lb rock of CRACK. !

  15. cacsemo - Jul 7, 2012 at 1:54 PM

    its easy..if you want the money go to the team thats giving you the most money and more years..if you want a ring you take the minimum and sign with miami…hes been overpaid for the past 4 years or so at 12 mil so im sure hes got some money lol

  16. dylude - Jul 7, 2012 at 2:34 PM


    I suggested that. Or else Houston can S&T with NYK and get Toney Douglasand a future first.

    The Heat plan to be in the finals, so a first round pick isn’t a high asking price.

    Norris Cole is the chip that makes it work bc he is young underused talent.

  17. canehouse - Jul 7, 2012 at 3:37 PM

    cantonbound…. maybe not superstars… but most of them can be called champions now… Fuk-you very much you clueless rube.

  18. digit960 - Jul 7, 2012 at 4:34 PM

    That’s crazy talk. How is Norris Cole under used? And to the extent of you saying that he should be traded with a 1st rounder for Camby?

  19. jamesinva - Jul 7, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    I was thinking WHY is there a pic of Aldridge in a topic about Camby…there he is guarding him…lol

  20. dylude - Jul 7, 2012 at 9:52 PM


    How is ANYTHING I said hard to understand.

    Cole is underused, young and cheap, that makes him a perfect candidate to be shipped in a S&T to Houston.

    How is he underused?

    He played less than 7 minutes/game in the Eastern Conference Finals against Boston (vs. Rondo & Allen backcourt)

    He didn’t even see the floor in game 1 of the NBA finals. That’s UNDERUSED. He got bigger minutes once they started blowing out OKC.

    He didn’t play in game 1 of the series against Indiana and averaged less than 7 minutes/game in the playoff series vs NYK.

    Houston has a TON of 6’8-6’10 post players do Joel is not wanted or needed.

    Who else are you gonna send since I’m the crazy one saying Cole + a first rounder in 2015.

  21. digit960 - Jul 7, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    Everything is hard to understand. Your reasoning for sending Norris Cole and a 1st round draft pick for a 36 year old center is off whack. What you clearly fail to understand is that Cole is a ROOKIE on a veteran laiden team and therefore by default his numbers are going to be limited. Add to the fact that he is not a complete player and still needs development. The trade proposal you put up is nothing but wishful thinking on your part because you obviously see some potential in Cole to even mention him. The Jeat still need someone to come in for Chalmers, and like you previously mentioned, is cheap and capable and at this point of his career moldable, so please tell me why in the hell would the Heat trade Cole AND a 1st round draft pick for Camby?

  22. dylude - Jul 7, 2012 at 10:37 PM

    Lol. Classic backtrack.

    “he is a rookie so he is limited, duh!” lmao. You got owned on the Internet and now you’re speaking as if you thought this all along. You make me chuckle…. Please continue.

  23. dylude - Jul 7, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    “What you clearly fail to understand is that Cole is a ROOKIE on a veteran laiden team and therefore by default his numbers are going to be limited.”

    Yeah buddy, that’s MY argument why he is less important than a center who can defend the rim and rebound. Lmao. After I own you, you switch to my side? Lol. This guy….

  24. dylude - Jul 7, 2012 at 10:43 PM

    And you still haven’t answered who else could they send.

    I’ve shut down Joel Anthony and Shane Battier.

    Philly’s 1st rounder would be nice but that’s better than the 2015 1st I proposed initially. You just spew nonsense with no purpose whereas I’m proposing realistic possibilities.

    Miami wants Camby, Houston wants young talent or draft picks. YOU’RE the one who is smoking if you think Houston wants anything other than that.

    So one last time, if not Cole or a 1st round pick, what would the Heat offer that’s better than NYK’s offer?

    Don’t worry, I’ll wait.

  25. digit960 - Jul 8, 2012 at 12:23 AM

    classic backtrack? please ecplain to me how your weak arguments have EVER owned anyone on the internet. You dont even know what that is hence why you have to flap it around like your vaseline filled friday nights.

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