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Ainge refuses comment on Allen rift with Rondo, looks to move forward

Jul 7, 2012, 12:56 PM EDT

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The Boston Globe spoke with Danny Ainge about the departure of Ray Allen. Ainge wouldn’t specifically mention Allen, focusing only on the future because he didn’t want to comment publicly before the July 11th period where teams can actually sign free agents starts. From the Globe (comments excerpted, read the entire post for more context on the Celtics):

“Obviously we need to fill the void, we need another shooting guard, of course,” he said. “There are a lot of good players left. We’re limited to what we can do with the biannual exception we need to wait and see.”

“We have been in contact with the whole list of guys you would look at,” Ainge said. “I don’t want to mention names but we have been in contact with them. We’ll continue to find the best player we can.”

“We’ve added a couple of great professionals in Jeff Green and Jason Terry and we drafted three guys that I think are very professional and add to the locker room,” Ainge said. “Talent is a hard thing to find but we put a great deal of value into what goes on in the locker room also.”

via Ainge, Celtics move on after Allen departure -Celtics blog – Boston Globe basketball news.

Ainge also wouldn’t comment on the reported rift between Rajon Rondo and Ray Allen, and what impact that might have had on Allen’s decision. Bear in mind that Ainge, again, wouldn’t comment on any of it because of the July 11th deadline, but he could have dismissed that element tactfully if he wanted to. Which means there’s probably some truth to it.

One thing that has arisen is the question of whether it was an on-court or off-court issue between the two that really drove them apart. There have been comments about Allen being frustrated with Rondo not finding Allen on the perimeter. But Allen is such a smart player, it’s very difficult to believe he wouldn’t understand why Rondo wouldn’t find him, because of the defense, angle, or whatever. He’s had enough passes not thrown to him in his career not to focus on that. The issues are most likely personal. Rondo is known as a very acerbic personality, and that can grade on people. Rondo has modeled himself after KG in the way he approaches the media and the game in general, seething instead of raging, boiling instead of exploding. Allen is a level-headed, warm-hearted professional. No wonder they didn’t get along.

Ainge is looking forward but anything he gets back will be minor. The big addition is Jason Terry, and that’s more than enough. Anything else they add will have to be gravy.

  1. pukpokito - Jul 7, 2012 at 1:23 PM

    A starting center.That is all that they need.Trade for Gortat.Camby.Kaman.KG must not be the starting center especially in the regular season.Celtics must protect KG from getting hurt by getting a center and cutting his minutes in the regular season.I think Terry-Bradley + Moore is fine at the two compare to the need for a center.PLEASE get a starting 7 foot center.

    • chiadam - Jul 7, 2012 at 1:36 PM

      A starting 7-foot center might be “all” they need, but that is a pretty big “all.” I would argue that they need a power forward that is also good enough to start on most teams. KG is older than Dick Bavetta, and he somehow just got extended for three years. Boston might want to cut back even further on his minutes.

      • theyknowtheyknowtheyknow - Jul 7, 2012 at 5:51 PM

        Did you see KG In the playoffs? The dude is a bonafide starting power forward…

        I don’t want to see KG playing center, that’s for sure, but to say he needs his minutes cut back, well theres not much to base that off of, his play was stellar

      • Kurt Helin - Jul 8, 2012 at 12:31 PM

        Playing big minutes in the playoffs and doing it for an 82 game regular season are very different things.

    • gmen4life33 - Jul 7, 2012 at 2:35 PM

      I was just thinking Camby would be perfect for the C’s. MIA obv has more talent, but the one way the C’s can beat them is with interior size. Indy gave them problems doing the same. A sign and trade for Camby would be my first priority of I was Ainge. Send Fab Melo (POR looking for big man), a pick if you have to and some contracts in return for Camby.

      How would MIA do if they go small with Chalmers, Allen, Wade, Lebron, Bosh when both KG and Camby are on the floor? Would be interesting.

      • jamesinva - Jul 7, 2012 at 5:33 PM

        Portland is looking for a big man? We drafted Meyers Leonard and have a pending situation of if Roy Hibbert will not be matched by the Pacers….so yes Portland IS looking for a big man….but here is the best part. What does POR have to do with anything? Camby was traded and is now on the Rockets (FA).

      • gmen4life33 - Jul 7, 2012 at 8:03 PM

        Oh I thought POR still had Camby, and they are not going to get Hibbert because chances are IND are gonna match. Portland is looking for a big to match up with Aldridge

      • bozosforall - Jul 7, 2012 at 10:10 PM

        Typical know-nothing Puh C’s fan, showing how idiotic he is.

      • gmen4life33 - Jul 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM

        Im not a Cs fan

      • bozosforall - Jul 8, 2012 at 5:03 PM

        As much as you suck up to them here, it sure looks like you are.

      • gmen4life33 - Jul 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM

        saying a player would fit their team is “sucking up to them”. some people on this site act like 8 yr olds.

      • bozosforall - Jul 8, 2012 at 5:10 PM

        Glad to see you acknowledge you pre-teen status here…just watch out for those Sanduskies out there waiting to prey on little guys like yourself. Stay safe…

      • gmen4life33 - Jul 8, 2012 at 5:12 PM

        making a pedophile joke about a situation that is still very fresh to the victims. stay classy

      • bozosforall - Jul 15, 2012 at 10:21 PM

        More classy than you will ever be.

      • truthhurtstoo - Jul 8, 2012 at 7:40 AM

        The HEAT would sweep them. They are on the rise and will be even better next year. Watch out celticks.

  2. blaksteele - Jul 7, 2012 at 1:23 PM

    Ainge might as well get his story out there first before everybody runs wild with it.

  3. miamatt - Jul 7, 2012 at 1:25 PM

    Never underestimate the power of the Schwartz!

    • chasycabym - Jul 7, 2012 at 2:35 PM

      “I knew it, I’m surrounded my a$$holes…”

      • chasycabym - Jul 7, 2012 at 2:37 PM

        “I knew it, I’m surrounded by a$$holes…”

  4. sun602 - Jul 7, 2012 at 2:35 PM

    You mention that Rondo is like KG in his personality, which is why Allen and Rondo don’t get along…then why don’t Allen and KG have an issue?

  5. 1972wasalongtimeago - Jul 7, 2012 at 2:39 PM

    Ray being a Seattle-ite for a time was heard telling Ainge and Rondo, “Saw things so much clearer, once you were in my REARVIEWMIRROR!!!!!!!!!”

  6. thejabronisayz - Jul 7, 2012 at 2:40 PM

    “Rondo is known as a very acerbic personality, and that can grade on people.”

    Rondo, a person, is known as a personality? Ever heard of proofreading? Rondo IS KNOWN TO HAVE AN acerbic personality. Jeez.

    • alexangus - Jul 7, 2012 at 5:25 PM

      I understand your point but I should point out that the word has another meaning that renders its use by the writer appropriate. Certainly you are thinking of personality as the totality of one behavior, attitudes etc. but the word may also be used in reference to a famous person, especially an athlete or entertainer. I wish there were more people with an eye as sharp as yours and who assign due value to correctness in writing.

    • alexangus - Jul 7, 2012 at 6:20 PM

      I understand your point but I should point out that the word has another meaning that renders its use by the writer appropriate. Certainly you are thinking of personality as the totality of someone’s behavior, attitudes etc. but the word may also be used in reference to a famous person, especially an athlete or entertainer. I wish there were more people with an eyes as sharp as yours and who assign due value to correctness in writing.

    • lionsownyou - Jul 7, 2012 at 10:04 PM

      actually the way that he said it is not grammatically incorrect, professor.
      go pointlessly nitpick somewhere else.

    • bozosforall - Jul 7, 2012 at 10:12 PM

      Even worse it’s “grate” not “grade”.

  7. cantonbound13 - Jul 7, 2012 at 2:44 PM

    Sign OJ Mayo. Better & younger than old Ray Ray.

  8. passerby23 - Jul 7, 2012 at 3:45 PM

    The problem for Boston is they’ve run out of cap room. Mayo is too expensive. Re-sign Pietrus and move for a sign-and-trade for Camby. The asking price for Kaman is probably too high at this point. Moore and Terry can hold down the SG spot until Bradley returns.

  9. lucidsportsfan - Jul 7, 2012 at 4:04 PM

    As a C’s fan, I really don’t think this is that big a deal. It hurts, but Boston was 17-5 without Ray last season.

    • jackdaniels1 - Jul 7, 2012 at 9:33 PM

      Celts fan too and it does hurt but I have no hard feelings at all….it was good to have him those 5 years. It’s refreshing to see a player going to a place b/c he wants to win a title & at a discount rather than getting the biggest paycheck (Ray’s a smart dude and I don’t think he has to worry about blowing through his fortune/retirement unlike 90% of the bozos who are pro athletes). Besides, Ray wasn’t exactly treated well last year. To your point, I think it’s best for both parties that he went where he did. Celts need to get younger and another year of Ray, PP, and KG on the court at the same time, and all a year older, wasn’t going to work. I just hope Ray doesn’t get booed at the Garden when he returns

  10. bigbamboom1 - Jul 7, 2012 at 7:24 PM

    Boston will be better with their new “Big 3” of Rajon Rondo, KG and “The Truth”. We all tend to forget that Pierce didn’t mention Allen at the end of the season as being important to the C’s next year. He said it was critical that they bought KG back, Bradley got well, and Rondo took the “next step” with his offense. Rondo actually did that in the series with the Heat.

    Right now I love the Celtics pieces for next season. Sullinger is a bigger, stronger, better version of Elton Brand. I predict he will become an impact starter as a rookie! They get Jeff Green back. The rapidly improving Brandon Bass re-upped. Jason Terry will flourish as a sixth man in their system. The C’s will be able to field a starting team of KG, Truth, Sullinger, Rondo and Bradley. Their second unit could be Jeff Green, Fab Melo, Jason Terry, Bass and Pietrus. Plus you still have Jujuan Johnson and Steisma. BOth showed promise last year. They need 1-3 more quality guards and they are good to go. But right now they have a lethal 3 guard rotation of Rondo, Terry and Bradley. Both Bradley and Rondo can play the point with the second unit too. This team can be dangerous next year.

  11. surly1n1nd1anapol1s - Jul 7, 2012 at 7:24 PM

    Poor spelling grates on me.

  12. thacloser86 - Jul 8, 2012 at 11:26 AM

    (chasycabym) A$$hole is surrounded so that makes him/her a A$$hole lmmfao YA BIG DUMMY

    • mrpostman985 - Jul 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM

      Ray Allen is a broad !!! Him signing with the heat was a b#*+ch move. He already won a ring so dat wasn’t an excuse!! I hope he has the worst season of his career and Boston beats them in the playoffs!! However I do think it’s was a personal reason for him to leave and sign with the heat !!

  13. misterdreamer119 - Jul 8, 2012 at 5:04 PM

    Ray Allen is finished.

  14. imforbigblue - Jul 8, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    I’m a huge UK fan loved rondo at UK but he has become a cry baby punk in the nba

  15. thehumburger - Jul 8, 2012 at 8:50 PM

    Were all the character insights into these two players by Matt Moore the result of inside information that the writer has or is he just speculating based on things he’s heard? I’ve now read three articles by Matt Moore and I can say two things for certain about him: He very much likes Ray Allen and he definitely doesn’t like the Celtics.

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