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Ray Allen chase involves Celtics, Heat, Clippers, Grizzlies

Jul 3, 2012, 9:45 AM EST

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Ray Allen may be 36 and have to have off-season ankle surgery after fighting through bone spurs all playoffs long, but that’s not slowing teams down much.

The chase for Ray Allen seems to be a four team race, reports David Aldridge of NBA.com — Boston, Memphis, Clippers, Miami.

It really comes down to what Ray Allen wants most.

Boston is offering two years, $12 million (total, $6 million per year), which is more than any other team. They also offer familiarity, teammates he has a bond with and a side that thinks they a chance to contend (you can decide for yourself if the Celtics can make another run like the one they just had, I’m not sold). The question here: Is Allen willing to accept the sixth man role full time and come off the bench behind Avery Bradley?

Miami can only offer $3 million per year, the lure there would be a chance at a ring. The Heat just won one and we saw in Game 5 of the finals what that team looks like if guys are knocking down threes. Hard to say if he would start (you would have to go very small and shift Dwyane Wade to the small forward spot) but Allen would get plenty of minutes.

The Clippers are in the market for a starting two guard (they are talking about bringing back Chauncey Billups but he will not be all the way back from his Achilles injury). And they can offer the $5 million full mid-level exception. The Clippers have Chris Paul as a floor general and Blake Griffin, they are an up-and-comer in the West, but is that enough?

Memphis also is looking for a two guard and can offer the $5 million mid-level. The show in Memphis still runs through Zach Randolph on offense, with Rudy Gay option No. 2. Does Allen want to see how he fits in that mix? O.J. Mayo didn’t like it.

Smart money has Boston as the team to beat in this race, but in free agency just about anything can happen.

  1. mpmffc - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:01 AM

    Well, whichever team he joins between the Celtics and the Heat(obviously the favorites to land him) he’s gonna come of the bench anyway. My guess is he will go to where to the team that offer not the best money, cause i think he has plenty of that in this stage of his career. He will go to the team that offer the best chances to win a ring, and i think he Heat has a Slightly advantage on landing him

  2. loungefly74 - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:02 AM

    I’d love to see Ray Ray stay in Beantown. they love him there and this past year showed the C’s still got the arsenal to contend. (…and i’m a Laker fan saying this for crying out loud!!!)

  3. knightrider1755 - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:04 AM

    He will go back to Boston and try to beat out Avery for his starting position.

  4. packhawk04 - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:09 AM

    I think boston cant be a legit contender anymore. Theyll make the playoffs, but theres just too much on other teams for boston.

    • andyhr17 - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:46 AM

      You mean the same Celtics team that was hit HARD by injury yet still took the Miami Heat to 7 games? Yes, because if this season showed anything about the Celtics it’s that they are too old and can’t compete anymore.

      • sk1llz187 - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:07 PM

        Don’t mean nothing. Sixers took em to game 7 and they garbage lmao. Heat only getting better playing together and Celts just getting older.

      • bils293 - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:08 PM

        pretty sure chris bosh, whos much better than avery bradley, was out for most of the series, and no one can say that d wade was healthy..if boston had gone to the finals they would have gotten run over by okc

      • truthhurtstoo - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:10 PM

        Yes, that is the team we all saw. Luck and having the Bulls out helped them limp into the playoffs. Their best days are behind them and it is simply being a blind himer to think they can beat the HEAT!

        Ray should take the $3M and stand all alone in the corner shooting three’s for the Champions..

    • j0esixpack - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:26 PM

      bils293: if boston had gone to the finals they would have gotten run over by okc

      ——————————————————————————

      Who played Miami harder and better – OKC or the Celtics?

      I think you’d be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks that Miami had a harder time with OKC than they did with the Celtics, even without Bradley, and without a healthy Ray Allen and Paul Pierce.

      No doubt the matchups would have been different, but the Celtics disproved everyone who thought they were too old and injured to compete in 2012.

      Next year they likely have Jeff Green, a healthy Bradley, the possibility of contributing rookies and maybe even Ray Allen coming off the bench plus anyone else they get in free agency.

      If the NBA can upgrade their officials anything is possible.

      • mediamikey - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:21 PM

        Did you forget the HEAT didn’t have Bosh for half of the series…and the Celtics would have gotten the Bulls in the 2nd round with a healthy Derrick Rose instead of the 76ers (who took your Champion C’s to 7 games – the 76ERS!!!!!)

        GARBAGE !!! HOT GARBAGE!!!

        The C’s can’t compete with the HEAT – straight up – that’s 2 years in a row..

  5. source7769 - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:14 AM

    lol and you are going by what? allen and pierce were hurt along with bradley and jeff green and yet they had a 3-2 series lead against the heat, add those pieces along with Sullinger and fab Melo and an oj mayo type mid level exception player and you call them a team that gets bounced in round 1? you sound like you are on the ball

    • willthedolphinseverwin - Jul 3, 2012 at 11:17 AM

      Source7769 you sound like your on the ball as well. Did you forget that D Wade was injured and just had knee surgery? Cause im pretty sure that was affecting him. Also you know that guy Chris Bosh, yea the one that completely erased Garnet when he came back, yea that guy he missed 4 games in that series, i think that may of affected the team as well. Oh yea Mike Miller the Heats 4th highest paid player needs like 3 different surgeries. So buddy i know Avery Bradley is the next MJ but relax with your celtics. The Heat were a shell of themselves and still won it all lmao in 5! So relax with sullinger and the bad back and fab melo who averged less than 5 rebounds a game for a 7 footer (LOL) and just have some chowdA and get used to watching the Heat win the next handful of titles. Lebron James makes any argument you have NULL And VOID! Just remember that the Heat were the ones that put the big 3 out of their misery. BTW the celtics big 3 was a failure 1 title in all those years before anyother team had a big 3 what a JOKE!

  6. 1972wasalongtimeago - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    Look, everybody likes Ray Allen. If the Heat got Ray Allen, of course I’d be happy. But really, if he decides to play elsewhere, I think the Heat will have dodged a bullet. He can shoot like very few others, if any. But the Heat need his role to play defense, draw charges, and rebound; just as much or more than they need the shooting. Ray is a better shooter than Battier/James Jones/Mike Miller, but he’s nowhere near the defender that Battier and Jones are, and he’s nowhere near the rebounder that Miller is.

    I think Ray Allen is still a very dangerous player, and I hope he leaves the Celtics. I just don’t think he does what the Heat need him to do. Go to Memphis, Ray

    • miamatt - Jul 3, 2012 at 11:07 AM

      While I agree that Allen doesn’t necessarily bring the size or defense of those other guys, the problem with Miami’s Battier/Jones/Miller combo is that not one of those guys has been a dependable, knock-down 3-point shooter for the Heat (Jones has been the best pure shooter, really, but doesn’t get big minutes often enough to be a consistent threat). There are too many games that end up as dogfights in the end because we don’t take advantage of open looks.

      I do think you overstate Jones’s defense a bit- he draws charges, and his hard fouls are something you need at times, but he doesn’t move his feet particularly well. And Allen is hardly a liability on defense when healthy. His downside is more about size/rebounding to me as opposed to other elements of “all around game”.

      I think the reality is that Juwan Howard probably retires, and Roni Turiaf has opted out, so I imagine that one of those spots goes to a perimeter player rather than another big. In other words, Battier/Miller/Jones are still onboard, the Heat just add Allen to the mix. For me that just adds to Miami’s versatility, which is perhaps the Heat’s greatest strength.

      • 1972wasalongtimeago - Jul 3, 2012 at 11:51 AM

        I agree. There are definitely many reasons to sign him. And you’re right about all those missed open looks that made all of us go berserk all year. Just saying that if we don’t sign him, it’s not a catastrophe.

        But more importantly, how freaking sweet is it right now?

  7. klownboy - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    I think Allen would be a better fit for the Heat bench. Would give the Heat much needed outside shooting

  8. muskyhunter2542 - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:31 AM

    Bucks, Bucks, Bucks!!! Come back to where it all started

    • miamatt - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:51 AM

      I think a lot of fans forget about Ray’s days in Milwaukee. That year they went to the conference finals Allen was unbelievable! He’s never played for my team but I’ve been a fan of his ever since.

  9. lameasish - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    Hey source, Miami had an injured Wade and Bosh missing for most the series. If both teams were 100% healthy, Boston still would be out in 5 or 6 games.

    • truthhurtstoo - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:13 PM

      Well said and so true

  10. miamatt - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    ” Hard to say if he would start (you would have to go very small and shift Dwyane Wade to the small forward spot) but Allen would get plenty of minutes.”

    If Miami was to start Allen, I would think the obvious move would be to sit Chalmers and put Wade at point. The Battier/James combo at forward was a revelation, as was Bosh at center- can’t imagine that getting blown up by shifting Wade to the 3 so that Allen can start. Wade is a bit undersized to play shooting guard, for crying out loud!

  11. lphboston - Jul 3, 2012 at 11:20 AM

    There are a couple of other issues at play here.

    Rajon Rondo. It’s pretty apparent that Allen and Rondo are different people who just don’t mesh all that well. Allen doesn’t quite get Rondo’s behavior, which can be strange even by NBA standards.

    The overall offense. Allen needs open looks and the offense has to constantly set screens for him. With Allen on the court the Celtics don’t get many easy buckets.

    That said, agree that he probably will be back.

    • j0esixpack - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:34 PM

      I agree. Barring his relations with Rondo there should be no reason Allen would leave.

      His family is here, his son I believe still gets the best diabetes treatment available in the nation at Joslin, he’s being offered more money, and he has his friends Garnett and Pierce on the team.

      I would agree Miami has a better shot at another title, but Allen already has his ring, and its not like the Celtics – getting younger and healthier for next year – will be less of a contender than they were this year – likely beating Miami if they had a healthy Allen, Bradley and Green.

      If he doesn’t come back one has to think that Rondo was a factor. He lost his starting job in Boston but it’s doubtful he’d win a starting role with any other contender – especially Miami.

      • truthhurtstoo - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM

        Dream on…. if that helps you

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