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Dwight Howard to Nets: It can happen, but is it likely?

Jul 3, 2012, 12:12 PM EDT

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The Orlando Magic are talking to the New Jersey Nets about a possible Dwight Howard deal. And there are a few ways — complex ways — that a deal could come together.

But if you think it’s a foregone conclusion — and I’m looking at you, Nets fans — you should check out what Ken Berger at CBSSports.com wrote.

Indeed, according to another person briefed on the matter, there is little optimism even from Howard’s camp that the Nets can put together a realistic package for the All-Star.

The reported deal would send Dwight Howard and maybe Hedo Turkoglu to Brooklyn for Brook Lopez, Kris Humphries, MarShon Brooks and some first round picks. Plus there are other players and pieces that could be part of any final configuration of the deal.

Here is what it takes to make it work: First Orlando has to accept a version of a deal with the Nets that they basically rejected before the trade deadline last year. And rejected before the draft. The Magic are in no hurry to do any deal right now because no deal can be consummated until July 11 at the earliest — why agree to terms now when someone else may come in with a better offer in a few days?

Howard has said he only will sign an extension in Brooklyn, but the Magic could not care less. If some team comes in with a better offer to rent Howard — and try to convince him to stay — then Orlando will take it.

As for the Nets deal, there are a whole lot of complications. Especially if the Magic insist that Turkoglu and his $11.8 million salary for next season is part of any deal. Think about it this way, the Nets would have the salary just agreed to with Gerald Wallace ($10 million a year), Joe Johnson’s salary from the trade with the Hawks, the max salary Deron Williams if he resigns, plus Dwight Howard’s max and Turkoglu — that alone is about $79 million. The Nets may take on Jason Richardson’s deal instead of Turkoglu to save a few bucks, but they are still over the tax line.

Then to make this work, the Nets have to convince Kris Humphries to sign a new contract and accept a trade, and the same for Brook Lopez. In total, as many as seven players may need to agree to a sign-and-trade to make this work.

Plus a third team has to be found to take on Humphries’ deal because the Magic are not going to add that salary, according to multiple reports.

And all that is pretty much the shortened, simple version.

So yes, the sides are talking and a trade of Dwight Howard to the Nets is possible — the Nets want it to happen and Howard wants it to happen.

But it is a very complex deal, and far more of those fall apart then come together.

  1. sk1llz187 - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    deron williams – joe johnson – gerald wallace – dwight howard = big 4

    • pl4tinum514 - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM

      that’s a nice starting 4, all they need is to snag a few more dudes on the cheap and theyre set

  2. ningenito78 - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:24 PM

    If the Nets pull this off I’ll sh-t. I’m one of the few that ventured into Newark the last few seasons to watch them play, and as somebody with family there, plan to follow them to Brooklyn. I’m rooting hard for this to happen but I’ll be stunned if it does.

  3. terraj35 - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    Its hillarious people think this is actually going to happen. He screwed the magic over for two years now and people think orlando management is going to accommodate this princess with his every wish. What a joke

    • thesixersbench - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:00 PM

      If I were him, I’d sell his a$s to the highest bidder and tell him not to let the door hit him on the way out.

      Problem is…what’s the highest bid if he refuses to re-sign anywhere but Brooklyn?

      • gmen4life33 - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM

        If Houston offers Lowry, a 1st and 2nd, I take that. Lowry is a future all-star PG and has a very small salary. Is Howard worth more? Yea. But taking on multiple players with high salary that you are not in love with to begin with isnt how you rebuild.

        Get a quality player, 1 or 2 quality picks, and call it a day. Screwing over Howard in the process would be the cherry on top.

      • detroitrollin22 - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:46 PM

        @Gmen4life

        You could have had Lowry and 3 first round picks before the draft, but Orlando didnt want to make the deal.

      • mogogo1 - Jul 3, 2012 at 2:07 PM

        The problem for Howard is the Nets aren’t exactly sitting there quietly waiting on his deal to expire so they can sign him. They’re putting together a pretty high-priced team without him and fitting his salary in is going to be a struggle for them whether it’s right now in a trade or in free agency. If he’s willing to take less money to play for them, then his threat needs to be taken seriously…but is he willing to do that? I’m thinking there will be teams willing to call his bluff on that.

  4. borderline1988 - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:41 PM

    I cannot believe this will actually happen. How can the Knicks be that far into the luxury tax? They still have to round out their roster with some role players to be competitive…they will probably be at around $85 million if not more, and for a number of seasons to come.

    Knicks shouldn’t have traded for Joe Johnson. They had all the leverage with Orlando, b/c that’s the only place Howard was going to sign with. They could have paired Deron Williams with Howard, and Wallace as well (who is a great signing in my opinion. The guy can defend, rebound, run the break…basically be extremely productive even without the ball, but can still score as well. perfect guy to align with alpha stars).

    I’m flabbergasted by that Johnson move. Once Howard said that he would only sign with Brooklyn, they were set. Now they screwed it up (unless of course they somehow still trade for Howard…)

    • sigshane - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:34 PM

      You are talking about the Nets, not the Knicks, and your comment makes sense, IF the Nets really REALLY wanted Howard in the first place.

      I am of the opinion that Dwight Howard is going to war out his welcome ANYwhere he goes, simply because he is going to expect to get his way all the time, or he’s gonna start whipping his head around and throwing folks under the bus. That may or may not be true, but his actions over the past year do not shine positively upon his head.

      • borderline1988 - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:21 PM

        sigshane:

        I don’t think Howard is that bad of a guy. He was drafted out of high school, and probably didn’t focus on anything but basketball since he was 10 years old.

        Most athletes today simply do not understand what the consequences of their actions are, which leads to nightmare PR situations for inexperienced players. Dwight Howard is supposedly a friendly guy, and he doesn’t like to be disliked. I have a feeling that he’d take back the whole mess he created last year if he could.

        He’s probably getting terrible advice from somebody, all the while trying to please his fans at the same time. He’s not thinking through this on his own either (he probably was set on going to the Nets long ago but flip-flopped due to various pressures). He simply doesn’t understand how basic politics work.

        Once Howard gets his fresh start, I have a feeling he will work hard to be a good teammate and leave the whole mess behind him. He doesn’t like being categorized in this way, and will try to avoid it in the future.

        Compared to JR Smith – now that guy is a knucklehead punk at his core. I wouldn’t expect him to behave differently no matter the situation or age.

    • knightrider1755 - Jul 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM

      You are confusing the Knicks with the Nets.You need to wake up.

      • borderline1988 - Jul 6, 2012 at 12:06 PM

        Okay, I apologize.

        Although anyone with 2 cents worth of brains in his head knows that I meant the Nets, not the Knicks. I guess with the amount of dislikes that comment got…well…

  5. censoredpost - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:41 PM

    If Orlando does this they are fools. Mid to late firsts. An oft-injured, limited big man in Lopez. The artist formerly know as Mr Kardashian (although he is decent). Howard is a clown and I would dump him too. Just not at these prices. The Cal Worthington Magic fire sale.

    • sigshane - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:37 PM

      Actually, “Mr. Kardashian” was solid last year, especially while playing with all the distractions and mocking he endured after his blow-up doll left LOL

  6. heyblueyoustink - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:42 PM

    Ah yes, but we’re all forgetting…if this is something emperor Stern wants to see happen…..it will happen.

    • sigshane - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:39 PM

      I think Stern and his toying with the league is going to eventually ruin small market basketball.

  7. mannyicey - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    If they do this, they will be a good Starting 5 with no bench. Remember- they still gotta sign Deron Williams, too! The biggest contenders for Howard are Houston and Atlanta. And I gotta give the nod to Atlanta because it’s the hometown, his Atlanta Celtic AAU buddy plays there, his momma, father, pastor and everyone else is there; they have the money and they’re going to be a contender.

    The only reason why I think Houston is because they have the money and that they are in the West.

  8. raidmagic - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:55 PM

    As a Magic fan I’d rather let him walk at the end of the season than bring that other crap to this team. Why would they want a bunch of late round picks and the Nets throw aways?

    • knightrider1755 - Jul 3, 2012 at 3:50 PM

      Because the team they have now are a bunch of throw aways?

  9. loungefly74 - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM

    just showing a blueprint (no Jay-Z pun intended!) exist…it can happen. it might take longer to get from point A to point B but thats for the executive guys to figure out. if 2 are willing to dance…i say it’s a betting man’s chance it will happen.

    also…the talk about a top heavy roster are valid…but Miami has proven ultimate success can be attainable.

  10. thetooloftools - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:59 PM

    Orlando needs to take it’s time. Someone out there could step up with a better offer and who cares where Howard WANTS to play? Orlando should have stopped kissing his diva (|) a long time ago.

  11. adzs - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:59 PM

    Even less likely now they’ve signed Teletovic from europe to 3 years 15mil…

  12. mannyicey - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:06 PM

    Wow. Teletovic, huh? And they are using the Mid-Level Extension, too? Howard will not be a Net.

  13. slowclyde86 - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:08 PM

    A nation anxiously awaits a conclusion to this monumental crisis.

  14. sirclutch - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:08 PM

    The Nets (Prokhorov) will pay any luxury tax… no matter how steep. I wouldn’t figure that into your analysis.

  15. zzztknk - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    Magic should not let this thing drag out like last year. It hurts the team and the fans just as much as Howard. Also what decent coach would want to coach the Magic with all this chaos- his chance of winning would be over before he started training camp!

  16. lakerluver - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:41 PM

    Hey, @borderline 1988, it’s the NETS not the KNICKS who traded for Joe Johnson and are going after Howard. Hello??!!!!

  17. ccshocktalk - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:44 PM

    Best part about all of this is, Dwight Howard’s image is more tarnished than Nixon’s after the Water Gate scandal, or (for those of you who don’t know who Nixon was or what the Water Gate is) this makes him look way worse than LeBron’s Decision on ESPN.

    And why would you keep him in the east where you’ll face him for the rest of his foreseeable future.

    Trade him to CSKA Moscow for Andre Kirilenko.

  18. wjmoffatt - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:53 PM

    1.) Kyle Lowry is no where near as good of a deal as this one.
    2.) How has Dwight actually screwed over Orlando? His got them to the playoffs with ZERO help, took them to the Finals. It’s their management that has traded for Gilbert Areans, traded to get back Hedo, traded for Vince, they’ve made worse moves than Cleveland did for Lebron, at least they obtained Mo Williams!

    • ccshocktalk - Jul 3, 2012 at 2:13 PM

      The idea that Howard took them to the NBA finals is absurd, and i hope your keyboard b-tch slaps you for even using your fingers to type that in.

      First of all Orlando Management has done a terrible job SINCE the 2008 2009 NBA Finals. Before that it wasn’t bad.

      Scoring was balanced and the team did well, heck even Michael Pietrus had teams calling him after that series was over with.

      Dwight did have a monster year of 20 points 13 boards that year. Then, Rashard was 17 points 6 boards, Hedo was 16 and 5 and 5 assists per game….Jameer Nelson also was dropping more than 16 a game and 5 assist. Add in Skip to My Lou’s 12 points 5 assists and 3 boards the rookie Courtney Lee stood out with 8 points a game making solid contributions as well. So any notion that it was Dwight and only Dwight that got them there is pure insanity.

      Jameer and Courtney Lee hit over 40 % from 3 point land, and 3 other guys also hit over 35% of their threes that year as well (Lewis,Hedo, Peitrus) to open things up down low for Dwight as well…SVG has always been an outside inside approach kind of coach…loves his 3 point shooters to open things up for his big men in the post. Under his watch in Miami Jason Kapono, Antonio Walker, Jason Williams, and James Posey all hit between 35% and 41% of their 3’s the year they won the NBA championship (even though Riley finished coaching them that year it was team built and orchestrated by SVG).

      So lets quit pretending that Orlando never gave him solid players to play with.

  19. andyreidisfat - Jul 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    This whole deal stinks. Just like Miami and Boston. And any and all future Big (insert number here). If this is how the NBA wants its league to look why not just cast of 22 teams to some other league and just have all the top players play in a 6-8 team league in just the major markets. Its starting to look like college basketball now.

    Does anyone really believe we won’t be watching this same crap when Anthony Davis is in the last year of his rookie deal and wants out of N.O. to go play in some major market with 3 other superstars.

    The NBA has really become a joke. If you a kings or Bucks fan, why waste your money investing in tickets, your team is never going to win. If your not in NY or LA or south beach you have to get a once in a lifetime player to compete ( Durant in OKC).

    Its all a joke. Its high time the NBA took its league back from these selfish over payed so called stars. Nothing in sports bothers me more than what Howard is doing. He has made himself bigger than the sport. Your paid millions to put a ball in a basket. You should be more than happy to do that anywhere in country.

    I hate the NBA but i do like basketball and every year it gets harder to watch.

  20. franchiseplaya - Jul 3, 2012 at 2:13 PM

    at this point i don’t care what team he goes to. what i really want is to convince this bitch to retire early so we don’t have to put up with his prima donna attitude anymore. I’m unfortunate enough to have actually paid money for howard Magic and Olympic jerseys. now they’re nothing but toilet paper.

  21. jaguar49 - Jul 3, 2012 at 3:08 PM

    Is anyone out there as sick of hearing about Dwight Howard as I am. Good God, there MUST be something else to talk about. He’s a very good player, but he’s Superman only in his own mind. I can only hope this deal goes through so we don’t have to hear the words Dwight Howard until the next time he gets his panties in a bunch. Of course that could be in another six minutes, but I will take what I can get.

  22. coldyron - Jul 3, 2012 at 3:33 PM

    Send him to Charlotte, let him see how good he had it in Orlando when Michael Jordan devours his soul.

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