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Report: Lakers talking Gasol for Josh Smith, testing trade waters

Jun 27, 2012, 4:31 PM EDT

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We said it before, the Lakers need to make a move if they want to get past the second round next year.

And while no move seems imminent, the Lakers are testing all kinds of trade scenarios out there, according to multiple reports.

Maybe the most interesting is with the Hawks, via the twitter of Mike Bresnahan of the Los Angeles Times.

The Atlanta Hawks have been pursuing Pau Gasol, The Times has learned. Nothing imminent, but Josh Smith would be key piece going to Lakers.

Separately, Lakers interested in Kentucky’s Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, would be open to trading Pau for Top-5 pick and right package o’ players

A Gasol for Smith swap (there would need to be other players to make it work) is interesting, but does it make either team significantly better? The Hawks would get the better player but the Lakers would get the shorter contract (Smith has just one year left).

I don’t see the Lakers jumping into the draft’s top 5 — which is where they would need to be to get Kidd-Gilchrist, or even the top 10. It may be the Lakers pipe dream, but no team is in the top 10 is going to give them a pick and an established, quality player for Gasol. Doesn’t work for the other teams.

Unless… What if the Rockets are able to parlay their three picks (numbers 12, 16 and 18) into a top 10 pick, then they could trade the Lakers Kyle Lowry plus the top 10 pick for Gasol? Rockets GM Daryl Morey has had his eye on Gasol for a while (remember the scuttled Chris Paul trade?). However, ESPN sources deny this trade scenario is in play.

But Gasol is not the only guy the Lakers are shopping, but it might not work. From ESPN.

The Lakers might have an even tougher sell with Metta World Peace, who also has been shopped in order to gauge his trade value. While the Lakers would be looking for considerably less, such as a late first-round pick or perhaps some cap relief, World Peace’s contract obligations (two years, $15 million remaining on his deal) — combined with a 15 percent trade kicker — might prove too much for another team to bear.

My guess is still the Lakers don’t make a move until this summer, but they will make a move.

  1. bobulated - Jun 27, 2012 at 5:02 PM

    Kobe could not co-exist with Josh Smith; the first time J-Smoove hoisted a crack pipe trey with 10-15 seconds left on the shot clock Kobe would calmly walk over and punch him in the side of the head. Hawks fans everywhere would then give Kobe a standing O.

    • pudgalvin - Jun 27, 2012 at 5:54 PM

      And the first time Smith hoisted one of those threes would be about a minutes and a half into the first game. There’s a reason Josh Smith is thought of the way he is. He’ll play like Tim Duncan for 5 minutes and then like Steve Francis for the next 10; one of the smallest basketball minds in the game.

      • bobulated - Jun 28, 2012 at 2:22 AM

        Or even worse he’ll play like Duncan for a game or two then like Francis for the next 3.

      • cornbreadbbqred - Jul 3, 2012 at 6:42 AM

        Body by Fisher; but mind by Mattell.

    • badintent - Jul 1, 2012 at 1:08 AM

      Please go straight to Jimmy Kimbel, you are a funny man !!!!Best laugh in a week !!send more jokes !!. 100 $ right on with Smith throwing junk( dude thinks he’s Melo at times )

  2. ccshocktalk - Jun 27, 2012 at 5:04 PM

    If I were the lakers i’d make the following scenario work one way or another.

    Nets get Pau
    Hawks get Metta, Steve Blake, cash and draft picks from Lakers
    Lakers get Smith and D-Will

    Team Smith, D-Will with Kobe and Bynum…and you could contend for the western conference finals again.

    • bobulated - Jun 27, 2012 at 5:07 PM

      That might work except the Hawks actually just hired a semi-competent GM so, no, doubt they would ever take Metta Elbow Peace’s baggage and more importantly his terrible contract on top of Joe Johnson’s terrible contract.

      • ccshocktalk - Jun 27, 2012 at 5:17 PM

        Metta World Peace can still actually play the game if people let him be Ron Artest again. Enough of this peace crap, go push people around, and be the physical menace that made him the caliber of player he once was.

        The Ron Artest of the championship team can still play, so packaging him with Steve Blake and draft picks for Josh Smith who isn’t going to sign anyways isn’t a bad deal. You’ll lose Josh Smith anyways, might as well get some decent parts to work with and some draft picks for the next few years.

    • sal11 - Jun 27, 2012 at 5:17 PM

      So, in your scenario, the Hawks are giving up their best player and getting back 2 years/$18 million of Ron Artest, Steve Blake, crappy draft picks, and cash? I assume the cash is something like $500 million.

    • tangledupinblue12 - Jun 27, 2012 at 5:19 PM

      As long as you’re at it, you could trade Gasol for Ion Man and Thor, and then not only contend for the Western Conference again, but also control of the entire planet.

      • 20dollardinners - Jun 27, 2012 at 5:46 PM

        I don’t think Metta World Peace would get along with Iron Man – ego clash.

      • badintent - Jul 1, 2012 at 1:11 AM

        Great ! Funny !!, the comics are all out tonight !! Love it. Can we get some ratings on Shaq’s first year on TNT ??

    • barkley4life - Jun 27, 2012 at 5:19 PM

      Hold on did you just purpose a three team trade the gives the Hawks Metta Blake and picks and gives the Lakers…drum roll please DWill…AND Josh Smith. You can only be one of three things…1. An Idiot….2. A Lakers fan…3. All of the above….

      Parents don’t leave your kids around the internet without supervision….

      • lmoneyfresh - Jun 27, 2012 at 6:13 PM

        Pretty sure 1 and 2 are mutually exclusive.

      • cornbreadbbqred - Jul 3, 2012 at 6:49 AM

        Hey! Suck some Laker trophy hardware! Must be a Boston fan. We are coming back for more they are overtaken.

    • thejotapee - Jun 27, 2012 at 6:04 PM

      “What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.” – Billy Madison

    • okcallday - Jun 27, 2012 at 7:32 PM

      kill yourself.

    • savvybynature - Jun 28, 2012 at 1:38 AM

      You are clearly delusional.

  3. heat256 - Jun 27, 2012 at 5:29 PM

    A 30+ year old Pau for a top 5 pick? Hell, let’s trade Steve Nash to CLE for the #4. When you have a chance to trade a high pick that could be used on a young guy who will grow and help define your franchise for an older, very expensive player that won’t really put you over the top, you have to do it. Do most GMs drink heavily or use some sort of paper out of a hat system for doing their jobs?

    • 20dollardinners - Jun 27, 2012 at 5:47 PM

      Steve Nash is a free agent

    • oldmanbasketball - Jun 27, 2012 at 7:14 PM

      We don’t need Nash – we have Uncle Drew.

      • okcallday - Jun 27, 2012 at 7:30 PM

        kids these days don’t practice the fundamentals anymore

  4. camnellum12 - Jun 27, 2012 at 5:45 PM

    This would be a terrible move for the Lakers. We already have a volume shooter in Kobe, but I’d be disgusted every time Smith takes a jumpshot, I’ve never seen a “power forward” with that poor of a shot selection. He’s athletic and a good defender, but he’s injured most of the time and is a sub-par rebounder. What ever happened to him going to Boston? Let the Celtic fans deal with him.

    • scalfor3 - Jun 27, 2012 at 6:03 PM

      i think i speak for most C’s fans when i say “no thanks”

      • camnellum12 - Jun 27, 2012 at 6:16 PM

        Haha yall don’t even want him. Well he is Rondo’s best buddy, remember that night club incident last summer? And Rondo even went to Smith’s wedding after the Hawks-Celtics game.

      • scalfor3 - Jun 27, 2012 at 7:41 PM

        yeah, but rondo is the only piece we have to offer in trades. rondo for j smooth? nah

  5. lakerluver - Jun 27, 2012 at 5:49 PM

    Lowry and a top 10 pick for Pau would be SWEET!! Never underestimate the LAKERS mystique or the savvy of the Buss family. Remember, had it not been for that little weasel running the NBA the LAKERS would have gotten CP3 AND cap relief. So, for you doubters out there, I can not see the LAKERS organization allowing one of the 10 greatest players ever to finish his legendary career as 2nd round fodder every season.

    • camnellum12 - Jun 27, 2012 at 6:01 PM

      To be honest bruh, Kobe’s contract is what’s one of the main problem. If he knew he was coming into the end of the tunnel, why would he sign that big of a deal and put the team in a financial bind like he did. If only it was like baseball, Kobe could possibly re-work his deal, but even if so, I doubt he’d do that

    • loungefly74 - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:40 AM

      that’s right Luver..ya never know what the Buss family will pull off!

  6. adzs - Jun 27, 2012 at 5:51 PM

    With that Houston idea in mind i wouldnt mind my Hornets giving up our 10 pick for Houstons (if they’re that desperate for a top 10 pick) highly doubtful but one can only dream lool

  7. magnetik713 - Jun 27, 2012 at 6:17 PM

    NO TO GASOFT. Besides David Stern will probably veto it for basketball reasons..

  8. paulhargis53 - Jun 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM

    1st. That Billy Madison quote is the most played out thing on the internet.

    Blind homeristic Laker fans, every last one of you. The trade scenarios are comical. Delusion at its finest. The new cba is a wonderful thing.

    • adfranco - Jun 27, 2012 at 7:18 PM

      Is this what you do on a daily basis, go to every article about the Lakers and post the same crap: new CBA will change everything, Laker fans are delusional? Who is your team anyways, has to be a small market team, since you hate all big market teams. You probably root for a team that hasn’t won anything in years or even ever. Say what you want about the Lakers, but you can’t take away the accomplishments of that franchise the last 30 years and what Jerry Buss built. Damn, it must have been killing you when the Lakers were winning all those championships.

    • tsi431 - Jun 28, 2012 at 7:34 AM

      CBA is still useless. Take 2005 for example, the New York Knicks were over $62 million over the cap and had no problem paying that amount for the team, by the way, they had the 2nd worst record in the NBA that year.

      The Lakers will have no issues paying the same sum of money, but for much better success.

  9. leeeroooyjeeenkiiins - Jun 27, 2012 at 7:05 PM

    Every offseason, it never fails. Stupid trade ideas abound from fans of every team, but Lakers fans always manage to completely outdo everyone else. Even Knicks fans look at their trade propositions and laugh.

  10. chadinkc30 - Jun 27, 2012 at 8:26 PM

    In the NBA u can’t redo deals! What part of this do Kobe haters not understand? If Lakers dont trade one of the slow big men its over before the season even starts! Personally as a Laker fan, I’d trade both of the big men for the most u can get

    • badintent - Jul 1, 2012 at 1:19 AM

      Ok, Lin straight up for Bryum, then J.R. for Pau. Happy now Fakers bandwagoners ??? There’s a real reason there’s no NFL team in L.A. No one has the brains to figure out the rules, the plays and the cheerleader dances.Way too much crack, sun and tacos.Coma mi becho, gringo.

      • cornbreadbbqred - Jul 3, 2012 at 6:39 AM

        You must most definitely be a Laker Hater!

      • cornbreadbbqred - Jul 3, 2012 at 6:40 AM

        Mos Def be a Laker Hater!

  11. weaselpuppy - Jun 27, 2012 at 9:15 PM

    Soooo, lemme get this straight. Darryl Morley’s master plan was to make a whole bunch of moves that equate to

    Dalembert, Budinger, Lowry and picks 14 and 16 for 2 years of Gasol at $19m a year?

    crack kills

  12. jkaflagg - Jun 27, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    The article points out that Gasoline to the Hawks does not really work, nor does Gasol to any team for a top 5 pick….however, the original deal that sent Gasol to the Lakers for a bunch of odds and ends did not make any sense either, yet it happened and the Lakers won two titles because of it….I believe to this day that the Memphis owner & GM received championship rings from the Lakers and still get a nice Christmas card from the team every year…..

    With at least a dozen helpless and poorly managed teams in the league, there is always a chance the Lakers will find another sucker…..

  13. 1historian - Jun 27, 2012 at 10:30 PM

    All these trade scenarios share one thing – they’re all funnier than hell.

    But you ALL take 2nd place to Sam Smith. Not only does he outdo you the last week before the draft, he proposes trades and stuff ALL YEAR ROUND, and he has for years, to the extent that he was given a mock business card designating him the GM of the Chicago Bulls. I have an autographed copy of it and I am very proud of it.

  14. mannyicey - Jun 27, 2012 at 10:44 PM

    Well I’m happy to say that a trade for Pau Gasol for Josh Smith is no longer on the radar. Whew! For a minute, I thought that the Hawks were going to get this slow, old guy and give away their playmaker.

    But that was the old GM’s talk.

  15. rexgrossman8 - Jun 27, 2012 at 11:37 PM

    Cue ridiculous trade scenarios from Laker Fan in 3, 2 — in fairness Kwame for Pau happened. So as KG says, “Anything’s Possible!!!”

  16. mcjon22 - Jun 27, 2012 at 11:58 PM

    The Good news for the Lakers; Chicago will take Gasol and Artest. The bad news? You gotta take Boozer and Deng’s contract.

    And Artest will be quickly amnestied.

    • badintent - Jul 1, 2012 at 1:22 AM

      Damn straight !! The Nobel Prize for Economics is being Fedex to you now as we speak. Ronron will be put down. By Vick.

  17. bobthis - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:49 AM

    Speaking about trades how about David Stern to the CFL for anyone with a pulse.

  18. paulhargis53 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    tsi: What you are failing to understand is that the cba is DIFFERENT now!
    It isn’t a dollar for dollar penalty anymore!
    The new cba with huge luxury tax penalties is there to keep teams from doing just what the Knicks did back then.

    Lounge/ laker:

    How can you toolboxes not get – after Stern nixed the Paul trade- that he isn’t going to allow lopsided deals?
    You are either a dumb homer, or are bring willfully ignorant. Stern is not allowing crap trades to go on because its detrimental to the league.
    His goal is a star on every team. You need to get used to the fact that parity has come to the NBA. Player movement is going to be much more restricted than before. You aren’t going to see a debacle Luke what the heat pulled anymore. You aren’t going to see dumb trades allowed anymore. Teams protect themselves on draft pick trades.
    All this info is on the w.w.w.
    I cannot believe that you guys cannot conceptualize the changes.

    • loungefly74 - Jun 28, 2012 at 10:00 AM

      um…yeah. it’s all different now. sure. whatever. the Lakers will no longer be the crown jewel of the NBA…yadda, yadda, yadda…parity will now rule the league. we will have a different champion every year, blah, blah, blah…

      well, as a Laker fan, i can’t help but to have a more optimistic view on all this. sorry, i don’t buy into the gloom n’ doom people (such as you) have been saying for a very long time. so i’ll disagree/pass on what you have to say as i have passed on what every “snake-oil saleman” has to sell/say. so far…i’m doing alright. 15 titles in 30 years? yeah, i’m doing damn good.

    • bobthis - Jun 28, 2012 at 10:01 AM

      I said CFL Canadian Football League not CBA. Geez what an idiot! Stern is a bagman for the owners so you just keep on backing him so people will know who you are.

    • socaldrew - Jun 28, 2012 at 2:47 PM

      Paul:

      Go back, re-live last summer all over again. Think about everything that was happening. Now this really goes to all the people who don’t understand this.

      DAVID STERN DID NOT KILL THE CP3 TRADE AS THE NBA COMMISSIONER!!
      He did it as the “owner” of the New Orleans Hornets.
      As commissioner, he does not have the right to veto trades.

      So… it doesn’t really matter who wants to trade who to where and who they get in return. That’s for the team’s front offices to figure out. The NBA no longer faces the issues surrounding the CP3 trade because they no longer own the Hornets. And hopefully, they learned their lesson and don’t go buying any franchises again.

      Note: the Lakers can pay close to $100 mil in luxury tax EVERY year if they wanted to. Winning = Money here in LA. The Buss family has never had an issue paying for quality players to bring in the banners.

  19. paulhargis53 - Jun 28, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    bob:

    Reading comprehension, its a wonderful thing, look into it please.

    Just because my post was directly after yours, doesn’t mean I was addressing you.

    You’d think the names at the start of the paragraphs would be an indicator- guess not.

  20. jkaflagg - Jun 28, 2012 at 4:56 PM

    Remember this is not unprecedented – remember when the trading idiocy of Cleveland’s Ted Stepien back in the 80’s gave the Lakers the #1 pick in the draft -guy named Earvin Johnson – in exchange for Don Ford !!!!

    Bash the commish all you want, but I’m sure he’d rather not have to step in to save some of his rich ( or not so rich) idiots like George Shinn from themselves……

  21. paulhargis53 - Jun 29, 2012 at 9:34 AM

    Uff. I’m done. I’m not admitting defeat mind you, I’m just tired of the lack of reading comprehension and the willful ignorance of you Lakers fans.

    You are refusing to face facts. What happened years prior has zero bearing on this year! It’s a whole new landscape in the NBA.

    Let them go ahead and spend 100 million in luxury tax every year, they won’t be around long if they do. Rich people don’t get rich by spending money foolishly.

    You tools need to read the cba.

    I’ve never seen a more ignorant fanbase in all my life. Well besides Green Bay Packer fans.

    • jimeejohnson - Jul 1, 2012 at 1:00 PM

      Wee-wee! Don’t let the door hit you in your inflated ego on the way out!

  22. cornbreadbbqred - Jul 3, 2012 at 6:37 AM

    J-Smoove? Not the answer! As if he actually knows there’s a shot clock. His motto is, “why wait for time when I can jack up a meth-head threee right now!”

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