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Report: Lakers working hard to shop Pau Gasol

Jun 18, 2012, 9:12 AM EDT

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I would take this with a grain of salt, but the report from Mitch Lawrence of the New York Daily News confirms the long-standing rumors that Pau Gasol is on the block.

The Lakers are committed to moving Pau Gasol — the fall guy for their second-round ouster against the Thunder and previous playoff failures — even if they have to take back less talent.

Of course they will take back less talent. Say what you want about Gasol being soft — something I don’t buy, he wasn’t soft in the 2009 finals when he bodied up and outplayed Dwight Howard — the guy is the most skilled big man in the post in the game right now. He struggled this season because Mike Brown kicked him out of the post and gave that space to Andrew Bynum. And sometimes Kobe Bryant. And even occasionally Metta World Peace. Brown had Gasol as a facilitator at the elbow, then people are somehow shocked Gasol doesn’t score as much and wasn’t as efficient.

When you trade a guy like Gasol, you never get back equal talent.

In spite of that, I have said the Lakers need to move one of their bigs to make the necessary roster changes to compete for a title. It’s not ideal, but with Kobe alone making $27 million next season (and $30 million the year after that) it is the only way to get the missing pieces, or at least come close. This latest rumor seems to confirm it. Although Lawrence then suggests Gasol could go back to Memphis, that’s not happening. The Lakers don’t need Rudy Gay.

  1. shockexchange - Jun 18, 2012 at 9:17 AM

    And the wheels of the bus go round and round … round and round … round and round.

  2. 28loose - Jun 18, 2012 at 9:20 AM

    Just wondering what rumors we shouldn’t take with a grain of salt…

  3. barkley4life - Jun 18, 2012 at 9:22 AM

    Gasol for Iguadola?

  4. hwatt - Jun 18, 2012 at 9:35 AM

    does Noah need to be under the rim? i wonder if the Lakers could do a sign-and-cut with Boozer like the Rockets did w/Fisher.

    • therealhtj - Jun 18, 2012 at 10:37 AM

      Sure, if Boozer were willing to give up his entire remaining salary (~50mil I believe) and take a $0 buyout the way Fisher did with Houston, sounds like a great plan. My guess is it doesn’t sound as good to Boozer though.

      Seriously, is there any way to make reading and understanding the CBA a requirement for posting on this site?

      • hwatt - Jun 18, 2012 at 12:12 PM

        Dude, Seriously… on an entertainment site! What about if boozer went with a guy like Watson, Bulls could take Gasol and Sessions. Championship.

  5. paulhargis53 - Jun 18, 2012 at 9:41 AM

    It doesn’t matter what the Lakers do.
    With that albatross of a contract Kobe has, they are handcuffed. Trading Gasol away for lesser value? How does that get them out of the 2nd round? It doesn’t.

    Weak bench, cap issues, a ball hog no one wants to play with.
    Kobe is done winning rings.

    • uptmonsta - Jun 18, 2012 at 12:34 PM

      Kobe is a beast. An aminal. He’s foaming at the mouth in the playoffs. He’s playing every possession like his life depended on it. You don’t think a ringless star doesn’t want to play with a guy that is that intense? If you believe what you just posted, then you don’t know basketball. Go back and look at Jordan’s shot attempts during those Bulls runs. The only difference is that those Bulls teams were constructed differently. They put defenders and shooters all around Jordan. The beast in Kobe won’t allow him to watch Bynum or Gasol start out 1 for 6 and continue to just watch them, ditto for Mike.

      Yes Kobe’s FG % was down but he does the most in a small space than anybody in the league. Lebron plays with Battier and Mike Miller on the wings and Bosh spacing the floor as well.

      And lets not act like McGee and Perkins didn’t totally stifle Bynum or Faried and Ibaka didn’t totally run circles around Gasol.

      I don’t know about you, but I’d take a ball hogging Kobe over a half-hearted soft, lazy big any day.

    • Mr. Wright 212 - Jun 18, 2012 at 1:00 PM

      ………………………

    • jdbinwa - Jun 18, 2012 at 4:20 PM

      You are absolutely right! Kobe is the Lakers’ biggest problem — and Mike Brown makes the situation even worse!

    • camnellum12 - Jun 18, 2012 at 6:50 PM

      I see why many Kobe nay sayers call him a ball hog, he does break from the offense a lot, but still finds a way to score. But don’t act like he doesn’t want to win. He may have jacked up plenty of shots this past season, but that was due to a lack of communication with Mike Brown’s “offense”, and the bench couldn’t score, even though we Laker fans was supposed to have great shooters in Troy Murphy, Steve Blake, and Jason Kapono. How can you call him a ball hog when he has more assists than Kevin Durant? How about when he drew up the play for Bynum to beat Boston on March 11th? Or when he gave Fisher the assist to beat Dallas back in January? Championship teams always has great team chemistry and a great bench, something the LA seriously lacked this season.

  6. lakerluver - Jun 18, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    “A ball hog no one wants to play with”. Really? CP3 would’ve loved to have played with Kobe. And Deron Williams would join the PURP and GOLD in a heartbeat if he gets traded there. Kevin Love is a L.A. kid, you don’t think he’d relish the chance to play with one of the greatest players ever? Dude, you need to get a clue. Just because one crybaby, diva doesn’t want the pressure of following in Shaqs footsteps doesn’t have anything to do with Kobe.The LAKERS in fact may not win another title in the Kobe era, but there is no other player in the NBA (other than D. Fish) that’s wearing FIVE CHAMPIONSHIP RINGS!!

    • caseybojangles - Jun 18, 2012 at 11:05 AM

      CP3 and DWill would have loved to play with Kobe??? Really? You know this because you asked them when they were over your place for your holiday party last year?

      I love your statement that DWill would join the lakers IF HE GETS TRADED THERE. No shit sherlock.

      Kevin Love is from Oregon…spent 1 year at UCLA…that’s a pretty loose definition of LA kid…

      No superstar wants to play with Kobe because he’s an individually talented player but can’t play team ball. I bet Bynum can’t wait to get out of there and out from Kobe. No worries to Laker fans though. He’ll sulk through next year and bring it in the last month to hike his value in free agency. Kobe needs to realize he isn’t enough to carry a team to the end and trust his teammates…something he won’t do…and something you’ve realized already by admitting there are no more titles in the Kobe era.

    • knightrider1755 - Jun 18, 2012 at 11:14 AM

      Speaking of ball hogs, I would love to see Melo and Kobe on the same team.

      • tomtravis76 - Jun 18, 2012 at 12:18 PM

        They did just fine on Team USA 4 years ago, and they should be just fine in London.

        Melo is a great ball player, he is going through that superstar phase thinking that he is the one who has to carry a team, that mentality is long gone, you need other superstar pieces. John Barry said last night night the Thunder wont get back into the series unless they find that 4th guy. Fourth guy now, and everyone twists their panties over all of the “big three” combos.

        As for Gasol, Lakers should keep him and send Brown packing. Unless the entire roster is overhauled he wont win their respect, because they won championships while Brown lost. Gasol on a team like the Wizards would work, the guy needs to be in a major market with his talent and exposure for the game worldwide.

      • uptmonsta - Jun 18, 2012 at 12:37 PM

        Same for Carmelo. With Stoudemire ailing, just who was he going to defer to? Tyson Chandler? Give Melo a healthy Amare and Jeremy Lin and his shot attempts will go down.

    • badintent - Jun 18, 2012 at 12:57 PM

      With no Phil around, Kobe screws with all his teamates heads. When anyone except Fisher would miss a shot, Kobe gives them his dumbass badass look.Just ask Metta Pewace, about that ! The dude confessed on Jimmy Kimel last year that he was scared to miss his 3 shot because of Kobe. They get pisses off not to throw the rock to him the next time down the court. shooting 9 for 25 game after game is gona get you out of the playoffs in short orde rBall hog a.k.a. MJ !! You do remember whenthe Fakers got set packing by the little Suns the year before Gasoul got on the team ?? Kobe got 4 riings thanks to Shaq, bottom line.Love Fisher still playing , and playing well. Class act, not like Kobe, Vanessa told me herself , damn that sister got game.Caliente, en fuego !!.

    • camnellum12 - Jun 18, 2012 at 6:39 PM

      I’m a Laker fan also, but Deron Williams doesn’t want to become a Laker in a heartbeat. Come to think of it, when the media asked him about becoming a Laker, he said he always hated the Lakers back in his Jazz days. D-Will really wants to be a Dallas Maverick more than anything, he always left hints in the media, as he spoke about how he loves to play in the American Airlines Arena in Dallas and how Mavs fans were great. If Mike Brown figures out how to utilize Pau and Bynum correctly, and acquires a MUCH better bench, then the Lakers are back in it. The whole team was still making adjustments as the playoffs went on, they’re still trying to get a hold of the confusing offense.

  7. dalucks - Jun 18, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    As a Laker fan, this is sad news because this is one year too late. Last year, the Lakers could have traded Pau to Minnesota for Kevin Love and the #2 pick in last years draft but Mitch decided against the move. Now, Pau has even less value and they will not anything near that value. This is just another reason why Mitch Kupchak should have been fired years ago.

    • therealhtj - Jun 18, 2012 at 10:40 AM

      That deal was never on the table. If the Wolves were giving up Love, an All-Star on a rookie contract, the Lakers would’ve pulled the trigger in a heartbeat. It was more like Beasley, the #2, and a couple pieces to make the money work like Darko and Ridnour.

      Mitch may not have done much since the Gasol deal, but he’s not the problem here. His hands are pretty much tied until Kobe’s current contract wraps up.

    • gmen4life33 - Jun 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM

      you’re mistaken. It was the 2nd and player(s) but not Love

    • caseybojangles - Jun 18, 2012 at 11:10 AM

      gasol for love last year??? where did you hear that???

      you do know that gasol has a MONSTER contract for the next 2 years and with the new CBA and the lower cap with higher taxes kicking in, NO one that isn’t a contender that needs just one piece to win the title will even look at gasol.

      kobe’s play and contract is what’s handcuffing the lakers right now.

  8. 69jaredallen69 - Jun 18, 2012 at 10:32 AM

    Dalucks that trade was never offered by Minnesota I can promise you that…Kahn would have been publicly flogged by fans if he had done that. It was #2 pick and fillers for Pau

  9. greej1938l - Jun 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM

    You’ll never get equal talent lol You sound like he’s a 23 yr old Kobe

  10. thacloser86 - Jun 18, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    Lakers won’t win another championship in this generation. At least not with Kobe

  11. thacloser86 - Jun 18, 2012 at 11:17 AM

    I think he hurt the team more this year then help them

  12. paulhargis53 - Jun 18, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    Some of you laker fans are really out there…..
    Making up trades out of thin air.
    Deron Williams would have opted out had he been traded there. CP3 as well.

    No one wants to play with him. Who wants to watch hik go 1 on 5 all the time?
    Then he throws his team mates under the bus when they lose!
    Get used to early playoff exits Laker fans, the championship era is over.
    No Jerry West to make a lopsided trade with, s strict salary cap. You can’t reload like yesteryear.
    Kobe and his contract are the death knell.
    He’s old and making way too much money. Have fun with an average team for the next 10 years….

    • 140chrviolation - Jun 18, 2012 at 12:11 PM

      10 years? Really? What advanced metric you using to figure that one?

      Kobe is on the other side of the slope and we will just see how fast the slide winds up for him, but there are outs for the team.

      We’ll see how the management deals with this issue. I don’t buy the idea that Gasol is the fall guy. Trading a player away is not always the result of that player being blamed for losses. If Gasol is moved it is simply because no team can afford to have 2 high level post players play at the same time, especially when the outside shooting is as weak as what the Lakers have right now.

      The only sure thing star in this draft is going to New Orleans. Charlotte is rumored to be interested in trading their #2. The Lakers can get involved in any number of moves that bring in some youth and perimeter players.

      BTW, anybody that thinks Jerry West gifted Gasol to the Lakers is just ignorant of the situation. West was not the GM of the Grizzlies at the time. The same guy who put together the current, very respectable team, Chris Wallace, was. That trade brought them Marc and created the space for them to sign the players they have. So, lets not pretend that the Gasol trade was manufactured for Kupchek or that it was a bad trade for Memphis. It was a trade that served the needs of both teams. Lets not ignore the fact that Kupchek made the moves that brought key contributors to the 2 championships, not even counting Gasol. Ariza, Shannon Brown and Ron Artest were all Kupchek acquisitions. So too was Lamar Odom. Every GM has mistakes in their transaction ledger, Jerry West included. Kupchek has done just fine and I’m fairly certain he will smartly parlay his current talent pool into a group that will compete for championships in less then a decade.

    • loungefly74 - Jun 19, 2012 at 9:15 AM

      paulhargis53 just got OWNED by 140chrviolation!!!!! nice.

  13. booonly - Jun 18, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    why doesn’t anyone talk about trading kobe?

    • Kurt Helin - Jun 18, 2012 at 11:52 PM

      Kobe has a no trade clause. Also, he is too valuable to the Lakers with ticket sales and sponsors. Not going to happen.

  14. sparty0n - Jun 18, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    How about Pau for Zack? Both Gasols in Memphis!

  15. lakerluver - Jun 18, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    @paulhargis, you are just another example of a clueless casual bball fan. If what you’re saying is true, why doesn’t Pau want to be traded? Why hasn’t Bynum gone to Jim Buss and demanded a trade to a team where he can be the no. 1 option? As I said, get a clue!!

  16. 11jlacy - Jun 18, 2012 at 1:11 PM

    If u move gasol u better get a p foward that can score n defend.

  17. paulhargis53 - Jun 18, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    That was a HORRIBLE trade for Memphis!
    They got garbage for him. Outside if Marc, who took years to develop, what did they get? Kwame Brown, Crittendon Mckie and 2 late m1st rounders.
    West had just stepped down, he pulled the strings on that trade, and you’re a moron if you don’t think so.
    Also, big laker fan, its KupchAk, no e!

    To the other Bozo:

    Bynum isn’t going to demand a trade. He wants his max dollars. Gasol is so fragile, personality wise, you’d think he’d want out. For youvto claim he doesn’t is preposterous. He can’t stand Kobe.

    Why would the Bobcats take on all that salary? For a guy on the wrong side of 30?
    These outlandish trade scenarios are actually funny.
    There are no sweetheart deals to be had out there. You’d think Stern pulling the plug on the Paul trade would prove that to you….but no.
    Once Kobe is gone, its a 5 year rebuilding plan. 2-3 more years of early exits with him. So I guess its 8 years, not 10.

    The arrogance of you Laker fans is astounding, an opinion you don’t agree with, and that person doesn’t know basketball? You’re laughable as fans, so homeristic…

    • Mr. Wright 212 - Jun 18, 2012 at 2:49 PM

      And who did those 1st round picks turn out to be? STOP IT.

    • steviegjd - Jun 18, 2012 at 4:34 PM

      Marc Gasol took years to develop? That statement alone discloses your low basketball iq. Or it could be that you are such a laker hater you are blind. CP3 has stated numerous times he would have lived to play with Kobe. So you’re wrong there too. While it is true that Kobe’s pre-new CBA contract is a tremendous problem for the lakers, they’ve never been as bad as the clippers or the other teams that always stink. The lakers have never “been out of it” for 8-10 years, ever. Maybe history is something you’re ignorant about too.

  18. bchapman2011 - Jun 18, 2012 at 2:07 PM

    Time for Kobe to put his money where his mouth is….Why don’t you take a small pay cut Kobe so the Lakers can reload some talent? If he were to cut 5-7 million this year, the Lakers could sign to really nice role players to come off of the bench.

    • therealhtj - Jun 18, 2012 at 2:23 PM

      Kobe’s chance to put his money where his mouth is came and went in 2010 when he signed his “nail-in-the-Lakers-championship-hopes” extension. You do realize Kobe (and his agent) wanted more money? Dr. Buss just refused to give him more than he could fetch on the open market.

      Many a disillusioned Laker fan such as myself really bought into his “All about the rings” act, but if he were serious, he needed to take a paycut then. Now, it’s just not possible. THERE IS NO RENEGOTIATING NBA CONTRACTS. They’re etched in diamond and sealed in Amber.

      Kobe already put his money where his mouth is, and that mouth said “Give me more money!” He’s earned it. He was the second most important cog on his rings with Shaq and led the show with the last 2. But the ring count likely stops here.

    • steviegjd - Jun 18, 2012 at 4:44 PM

      Under the new “kill the lakers” CBA, Kobe cannot restructure his contract or “take a pay cut.”

      • Kurt Helin - Jun 18, 2012 at 11:49 PM

        Actually, he could not have done that under the last two CBA’s either. Not for a couple decades.

  19. paulhargis53 - Jun 18, 2012 at 3:37 PM

    No, you stop it. 2008 pick wasDonte Green, later traded for Darrel Arthur.
    2010 pick was Greivas Vasquez.
    These guys are both end of the rotation players.
    So they got:
    Kwame- turd
    Crittendon, Mckie,Arthur and Vasquez.
    Marc Gasol is the only above average player out of that group.

    How anyone says that Memphis didn’t get hosed by that trade is beyond me.
    A serviceable big man, and junk for a perrenial all star……Ooof.

    That was a gift from West and you all know it.

    • badintent - Jun 19, 2012 at 12:53 AM

      Yes and David STernmister said to make the trade or Else go to the concentration camp.Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !

  20. tigermike22 - Jun 18, 2012 at 4:11 PM

    We will regret trading Pau Gasol. He wants to play here and he’s being treated as the problem when it’s Bynum who is the problem. We will not be good underneath until Bynum head “gets right” and he plans like he’s supposed to. Gasol is a TEAM player and Brown doesn’t see that. We need a shooter and another bruiser, like Boozer… Let’s get real, Lakers and stop being embarrassing!

  21. lakerluver - Jun 18, 2012 at 4:28 PM

    Haven’t you clueless twits learned yet to NEVER count my LAKERS out? The LAKERS are the best franchise by far in the NBA. The Buss family will make sure that doesn’t change. I know you LAKER haters have been anxiously waiting for Kobe to get old. But Magic got old and the LAKERS reloaded. Kareem got old and the LAKERS reloaded. Shaq left and the naysayers said the LAKERS were finished!! That was two more rings ago! Kobe will eventually retire but another superstar will suit up in the PURP AND GOLD. Why? Because great players want to play for great organizations and with other great players. I would not be surprised if the LAKERS added another star player this offseason. The Pau trade came out of nowhere, remember?! If you nitwits honestly think the Buss family will let Kobe finish out his illustrious career as 2nd round fodder you really haven’t been paying attention to how the LAKERS operate. They haven’t averaged a Larry O’Brien trophy almost every 3 years for the past 3 decades by not knowing what they’re doing!!!!!

  22. steviegjd - Jun 18, 2012 at 4:55 PM

    The new CBA dictates that either Pau or Bynum has to go. They can’t play together well and they both make big nba salaries. While Bynum has more trade value, Jim “baby” Buss is far too anamoured with the childish talent. Kobe is literally untradeable. So Pau goes. Their needs are too great to hope that a trade for Pau will be the solution. They were hamstringed by the short signing period and Stern’s gift to the Clevelands of the nba of nixing the CP3 trade. We will see how Kupchak and baby buss do this year. If they can do no better than last year at building a decent bench then the Kobe era will go out with a wimper. Brown was also a big part of this years problem, as he is so offensively inept. But I don’t see him going anywhere this year. We will see.

  23. paulhargis53 - Jun 18, 2012 at 5:22 PM

    lakerluver: What you are failing to understand is that the parameters have changed from the last time they had to replace a superstar. How do you not get that?
    Salary cap and luxury tax see to that.
    What they will get for Gasol won’t be equal talent. They aren’t going to be able to carry 3 max contracts, which is why they have to trade him, to pay Bynum.
    The NBA wants parity. That’s why Stern vetoed that ridiculous Chris Paul trade.
    Also Jerry isn’t running the team anymore, his kid is more fiscally responsible, he has to be. You Laker fans have been spoiled way too long. I don’t hate the Lakers, I dislike most of the fans sense of entitlement.
    Kobes contract has the front office hamstrung. There isn’t much they can do to get him another ring. He’s not winning one in the next 2 years. No bench. 40-50 mil tied up in Kobe and Bynum. And you think there is some out of the blue trade that’s going to fix this? You’re delusional.
    Keep waiting for it to happen, you’ll be waiting a long time. Get used to average basketball.

    • tsi431 - Jun 18, 2012 at 7:59 PM

      You completely contradict yourself in your post from saying “parameters have changed from last time . . .”

      To Stern had to veto the ridiculous Chris Paul trade. The Chris Paul trade proves, in fact, that those kind of trades are still possible. If the Hornets was not team owned, at that time, it would have went through.

  24. 11jlacy - Jun 18, 2012 at 6:55 PM

    I just hope the lakers get a solid p forward thats a scorer n defender, if they doing all that let metta world beast go to he losing skills.

  25. paulhargis53 - Jun 18, 2012 at 8:31 PM

    No, that trade was bad for any team to make. I think you’ll see him step in more often. No one wants to see crap like the Bobcats did. Keep hoping against hope that they swing a Gasol like trade, its not happening.
    That trade, had it gone through was bad for basketball.

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