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All sorts of buzz Charlotte willing to trade No. 2 pick. Good luck finding value.

Jun 16, 2012, 8:14 PM EDT

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Nothing in the draft is ever a lock, but some guys are pretty close to it. Anthony Davis is one of those guys, he’s a franchise cornerstone and New Orleans gets him.

Charlotte is next on the clock and… you can have that pick if you want it.

There is all sorts of buzz the Bobcats are trying to find value for the No. 2 pick. Problem is the next two guys on the board — Thomas Robinson or Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, take your pick — are expected to be good but not one of the league’s 10 or so franchise cornerstone players. Think more Andre Iguodala/Al Horford.

So the rumors are flying that pick can be yours. Alex Kennedy at Hoopsworld sums the buzz up well.

In recent weeks, Charlotte has been in contact with a number of teams and they’ve made it clear that the No. 2 pick is available. However, multiple league sources have said that the Bobcats are looking for a lot in return. They would like to add a face of the franchise player, which is why they’ve reportedly expressed interest in young stars like Rudy Gay and James Harden. If the Bobcats can’t use the pick to make a splashy move, they’ll likely draft Thomas Robinson.

I don’t see moves like that happening, I can’t see any team giving up something of value for something that maybe in a few years could be as valuable. General managers get canned when they trade established for unproven. And by the way, the Thunder have some salary cap issues coming up they are not letting Harden go now and breaking up that core. No way.

Here’s my question — why not make Robinson the face of the franchise? In a couple of years he could well be at about the level of impact of a Rudy Gay, he’s just not established. Why give fans a good young player they can grow with and attach themselves to, then add to that in future years?

  1. somekat - Jun 16, 2012 at 8:48 PM

    How much, if any, salary can Charlotte eat in a deal? Iggy for the #2 and i’m all over it if I’m the sixers.

    • thisgrilledcheez - Jun 17, 2012 at 1:15 PM

      The Bobcats are on the hook for $43M next year. That’s a deal they could easily make, though they would not have much left to spend afterwards. Also, I suspect that, after their run this year, the Sixers would prefer an established player and a lower first round pick, or to package their own pick (15) and Iguodala for an upgrade, especially if Lou Williams walks.

      • somekat - Jun 20, 2012 at 3:59 AM

        Wouldn’t say that at all. The sixers know what they are, a young team. They are shopping Iggy (from everything I heard), and Brand is not a cornerstone player anymore. The sixers are still a very young team, this years run not withstanding.
        Young, Holliday, Turner, Vucevic, Allen etc are the core of this team now. Adding another young, dynamic player is exactly what they’ll be looking to do with Iggy.
        If they could get an established star for him, they would. They can’t. If they could, they’d of done it 2 years ago. The only way they get that is if they add 2-3 of the guys above in the deal, which they won’t do. It may look like step back next year, but lets be honest, last year was a fluke. They would not have beat Chicago without injuries, and they matched up great with Boston and still fell short. Something that may look like an immediate step back can help you take 3-4 steps forward the following year.
        All that young talent, and Brand coming off the books next year, sounds great to me.

  2. Louis Tumblin - Jun 16, 2012 at 8:54 PM

    If the Bobcats pick Robinson that would be great for the Cavaliers.

  3. blarry21 - Jun 16, 2012 at 8:56 PM

    The NBA sucks. It’s totally rigged and Stern o ly wants the big market teams to succeed anyway.

    • mytthor - Jun 17, 2012 at 2:50 AM

      The city that never sleeps — Oklahoma City.

  4. sportsjoker - Jun 16, 2012 at 9:05 PM

    If I was His Airness I would stay at #2 and draft MKG. I think the Kidd has potential to be a franchise cornerstone.

  5. mwcarolina - Jun 16, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    yeah, pick Robinson and screw up the Bobcats worse. they need a SMALL forward WORST. power forward is a need, but small forward is a BIGGER need.

    • Kurt Helin - Jun 17, 2012 at 7:30 PM

      They need talent at every position. Every spot is a need. They need to take the best player.

  6. jthammerstix - Jun 16, 2012 at 10:57 PM

    ^ you are dumb

    • camiller85 - Jun 16, 2012 at 11:48 PM

      ^ You are dumber and probably think our politician have our best interest at heart.

  7. rocketsbb - Jun 17, 2012 at 12:21 AM

    ^ you are correct.

  8. telergy - Jun 17, 2012 at 1:34 AM

    Lets say OKC goes on to win the Finals…

    Harden is making 5.8 mill this year. Next year (last year of contract) he will be making 7.6 mill. He will be an UFA in 2014, with a ring, 6th man of the year award at age 23/24? Someone may or may not give this man a 10-15 mill a year contract.

    OKC should consider moving one of them at some point because they won’t be able to keep all 3. Move Harden for the number 2 pick and sign a FA 6th man like Crawford or something?

    • therealhtj - Jun 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

      If OKC could keep him around 10, they’d be crazy not to do it, but the fact is, they’ll be looking at matching max offers for him and near max offers for Ibaka. Sure they can sell out a 20,000 seat arena with a young, exciting championship core in a town with no other pro sports and college football all but done by the time the NBA rolls around, but their TV deal has got to pale in comparison with the big markets.

      Will OKC manage to keep their 4 core players + Perkins together if they alone put the team at the luxury tax line? With the new, more punitive luxury tax looming the same year Harden and Ibaka come up for renewal, it’s doubtful.

  9. jthammerstix - Jun 17, 2012 at 4:56 AM

    You can’t whoop me hippy

  10. fanz928 - Jun 17, 2012 at 5:47 AM

    Now wtf would bobcats draft tr and not MGk

    • mwcarolina - Jun 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM

      agree. they need to get a small forward. as far as i know and heard, Robinson isnt a small forward. the pick should be either MGK or Barnes. i like Beal and think he’s a better scorer and likely player than MKG and Barnes, but they dont need Beal as they have and like for good reason, Henderson. however, small forward is the BIGGEST need. they cant survive going with Maggette as their small forward, he’s constantly hurt and isnt what he was.

  11. plum13sec - Jun 17, 2012 at 6:21 AM

    Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is going to be a great NBA player.

  12. jh4prez - Jun 17, 2012 at 8:50 AM

    Robinson is undersized and has no parimeter game

  13. jag8r904 - Jun 17, 2012 at 10:24 AM

    @blarry21 your comment doesn’t make much sense when OKC, Utah, San Antonio, Memphis, Orlando and Indiana make up 1/3 of playoff teams.

  14. lphboston - Jun 17, 2012 at 1:59 PM

    You can’t make a rookie the face of the franchise because the veterans will tank. And what if the kid can’t play? It sets you back even further. Harden is a terrific player, but he’s a complementary player and in Charlotte couldn’t even begin to replicate what he does in OKC.

    On another note, Helin needs to hire a copy editor. His posts are full on run-on sentences. And his final sentence — Why give fans a good young player they can grow with and attach themselves to, then add to that in future years? — is missing the word not. His hero worship of arrogant, entitled players is bad enough, but at least go back to school and take a course in high school English.

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