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Spoelstra, Heat frustrated by hard fouls to Wade, LeBron

May 24, 2012, 12:57 PM EDT

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Tyler Hansbrough followed through with a hard foul on Dwyane Wade in Game 5 that got ball but on the follow through got Wade’s face and drew blood. Hansbrough will be playing in Game 6.

Udonis Haslem followed through on a hard foul on Hansbrough in that game — two hands that got ball but was clearly intended as a physical message — and Haslem is suspended for Game 6.

Heat coach Erik Spoelstra complained Thursday like Heat fans did on call in shows and twitter all day the day before — it’s an unfair double standard. That Dwyane Wade and Lebron James put up with too many hard hits that go unpunished. From ESPN.

“The league does not have a problem with hard fouls on our two main guys,” Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said Thursday before taking on the Pacers in Game 6.

“In nine games now there’s been over a dozen hard fouls to the face, some of the tomahawk variety, some have drawn blood. They don’t have a problem with it so we don’t have a problem with it. We’ll focus on what we can control.”

The Pacers play a physical style, and it clearly has worked fairly well on the Heat. That nine game reference by Spoelstra refers back to the Pacers regular season games against the Heat as well.

To me the league got it right. Well, mostly right, Dexter Pittman should have gotten more games for his flagrant elbow but nobody is really arguing that suspension (not even Spoelstra, who said Pittman went rogue).

Hansbrough made a playoff foul. Hard but he played the ball. Haslem’s foul was clearly retaliatory — he has never gone for a two-handed block before in his life. I could go either way on suspending Haslem, but I have no problem with it.

And if you’re the Heat looking to retaliate for physical play, you may want to pick your spots better because not having Haslem for Game 6 really hurts.

But if the Heat need to go with the “us against the world” thing to motivate themselves, go for it. Every team does it.

  1. blueintown - May 24, 2012 at 1:00 PM

    I hope someone posts some comments about the Heat being crybaby’s. That would be interesting, unique, and, most of all, clever.

    • girouxhasladyballs - May 24, 2012 at 1:36 PM

      you forgot true. man up or dont drive. your decision, they go in there not expecting a foul?

      • blueintown - May 24, 2012 at 1:46 PM

        Last I checked, as of late they have made their decision, and their decision has resulted in several and-1’s and/or dunks in the collective faces of the Pacers players.

        Regardless, this is simply a coach doing what coaches do: sending a message through the media to the referees, much like Frank Vogel did before the series even started. I realize it’s easy to talk in simple tough guy platitudes when commenting on message boards, but save it for your “No Fear” t-shirts. I recommend trying to watch basketball games like a grownup and appreciate the both the subtle and overt battles taking place on both sides of the ball for both teams.

      • girouxhasladyballs - May 24, 2012 at 4:37 PM

        it may have resulted in and 1’s but the point is this dude is still whining in public about fouls. you’re a grown man whining about people touching you in a sport. if it’s not called, it’s not called move on. you’re gonna sit there and act like lebron and wade don’t get veteran calls? please.

      • tfoz5150 - May 24, 2012 at 7:46 PM

        Penguins out!!

      • blueintown - May 25, 2012 at 10:08 AM

        giroux – I never said they didn’t get veteran calls. Veterans get veteran calls all the time. Not just in Miami. Spoelstra did what hundreds of other coaches have done before him – including Frank Vogel before the series even started. He tried to get a message through to the officials via the media. Big deal. It happens with every coach, and will continue to happen with every coach. Deal with it.

    • bearsandjazz - May 24, 2012 at 2:45 PM

      Blueintown—the Heat are crybabies. They act like they are basketball gods. They act like everyone should get out of their way. Harlem Barkley called the heat out for being crying babies. It’s Exaclty what they are. The heat show boat and celebrate and they have the nerve to insult the pacers for doing it. Double standard is all the heat practice. I hope they never win a championship together. Wade and James are great players but they really think the world and the NBA owes them something.

      • blueintown - May 24, 2012 at 2:57 PM

        Bears – Who cares? If you don’t like them show boating and celebrating, don’t let them jump over you; if you’re offended by them showboating and celebrating, don’t let them dunk in your face; if you don’t like them calling you out for celebrating, then find away to dance in front of them at all costs.

        This is how basketball works. At the end of the day they will either be perceived by their detractors as cocky, overhyped losers, or cocky, overhyped champs who only won because of the refs. Their fans will either see them as underachievers who couldn’t overcome the loss of an important big man, or as justified champions.

        “I don’t like how they dance, I don’t like ‘The Decision’, I don’t like how they complain, I don’t like what U.D. did to Psycho-T, I don’t like that they’re soft, I don’t like that they’re mean, I’m from Cleveland and I’m mad because I’m poor and stupid and we’re bad at basketball..” Dear Diary..

      • blueintown - May 24, 2012 at 2:58 PM

        Also, Harlem Barkley looks like a spell-check error to me, but I think it’s a pretty awesome nickname.

    • bearsandjazz - May 24, 2012 at 4:37 PM

      Blueintown—just like a coward with a homer point of view. Instead addressing the facts I presented you found an iPhone predicted word that didnt belong. Good for you! You really showed me!

      • brianartex - May 24, 2012 at 5:24 PM

        The Heat haven’t show-boated since the ridiculous event where Lebron guaranteed all those titles. An event in which they gave supplies and food to the homeless, and perhaps employing hyperbole to give some cheer for those less fortunate. Nobody talks about that, but whatever.

        Their last celebration I can remember(Lebron kneeling, seeming to count his blessings and being thankful) after closing Boston, a super-physical tough series, really bugs you that much, after a year?

        Or what about The Decision? Is that still bothering you after two years? That raised a shitload of money for the Boys and Girls club. And if you’re mad because players moved where they wanted to move out of friendship and desire to win, instead of being shopped and moved around by owners with business interests only in mind, then I think you’re not

        What the hell does your comment say? That the heat are crybabies. Congrats, you’ve really added to the conversation, not to mention, you took blueintown’s bait. You really look dumb in this situation.

      • blueintown - May 25, 2012 at 12:18 AM

        bears – Um, What? I don’t have a dog in this fight, buddy. My favorite team was knocked out in round one. You didn’t present me with any “facts” to refute, you gave me your opinion. Which is fine. Who am I to say if it’s right or wrong? I have about as much a chance of changing your opinion of the Heat as you have of changing my opinion that you’re a moron.

        I find a great deal of irony in the people who spend time on here whining about other people whining. The public swaying of officials, exaggerated flailing on contact, and all-out “flopping” have always been a part of the NBA. Always have been, always will be. You’d be a damn fool to not try and exploit every single inch of competitive advantage you can muster. If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying, blah blah blah, cliche cliche cliche…

        I would suggest you refrain from being so upset about everything and simply enjoy basketball, it’s actually a lovely game.

  2. acdc363 - May 24, 2012 at 1:00 PM

    Give me a break Spoelstra! Wade should have been suspended for his body check earlier in the series!

  3. boondocksaint224 - May 24, 2012 at 1:05 PM

    Darren Collison thinks this is hilarious.

    • Mr. Wright 212 - May 24, 2012 at 1:19 PM

      So does Phil Jackson. Pathetic attempts by Spoelstra, and egregiously overlooking the hard fouls Miami was dishing out long before Game 5 SMH.

      • bdeviled11 - May 24, 2012 at 4:25 PM

        Yet Lebron has only had 2 fouls TOTAL, called on him the last two games. That my friends is a defensive first teamer!

    • abchome - May 24, 2012 at 1:56 PM

      So do Hamilton, Rondo, Kobe Bryant…

  4. gmen4life33 - May 24, 2012 at 1:07 PM

    Wade has had more dirty plays this year than anyone else that comes to mind.

    And Tyler H. was going for the ball, and got Wade with follow through. That is the definition of a flagrant, which he got and deserved.

    Haslem clearly didnt go for the ball, just two hands straight to the face (ball was to the side and Haslem went straight to face). That has to be a suspension.

    If Haslem was smart and went for the ball FIRST, then got him in the face, he would have been playing in game 6 too.

    • gostlcards5 - May 24, 2012 at 1:15 PM

      I wouldn’t say “has to be”. If they had given Haslem a flagrant 2 and ejected him, I would not have had a problem with no suspension. The fact that they only gave him a flagrant 1 on that play is what made it a necessary suspension.

      I also find it amusing that Spoelstra is whining about the Heat getting fouled hard. The first “cheap” play in this series was Wade’s body-check on Collison. Even that was retaliatory, because he was whining and mad that the refs no-called a play at the other end (where there was no foul). That play was more clearly a suspension play for me, but of course, the NBA won’t do that, because DWade is one of the top 5 or 10 players in the league.

      Either way, to me, BOTH teams need to shut up and play.

      • Mr. Wright 212 - May 24, 2012 at 1:20 PM

        Dahntay goes straight up, Wade flails himself like a long jumper at the Olympics without any contact, whines about a foul and then pulls a Brandon Prust on Collison.

        And they’re whining.


  5. Mr. Wright 212 - May 24, 2012 at 1:15 PM


    • 1972wasalongtimeago - May 24, 2012 at 1:29 PM

      You mis-spelled it. It’s spelled WINNING

      • girouxhasladyballs - May 24, 2012 at 1:37 PM

        aint won nothin yet.

      • stlouis1baseball - May 24, 2012 at 3:09 PM

        Hahaha! Riiight 1972. Sorta’ like last year when their prima donna’ punk asses had their Barnum and Bailey Circus show asking to be annointed. Win? Check again.
        Showboatinest’ team in the league. Yet…when you beat em’ you can’t celebrate.
        Hell…they don’t even want you talking to them.
        As Charles said…they get on peoples nerves.
        I look for the 11th guy off the bench to put a Miami Heat on this back the first five minutes tonight.
        Bunch of pussies.

    • soflasfinest - May 24, 2012 at 1:31 PM

      You’ve posted at least 3 times on this page WHINING so why don’t you practice what you preach and shut the hell up you HEAT groupie!

      • soflasfinest - May 24, 2012 at 1:33 PM

        That’s for mr wrong not 1972 btw

    • duane888 - May 24, 2012 at 6:01 PM

      Do YOU ever stop whining ??

  6. ezmagic - May 24, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    Haslem wasn’t even close to the ball. He should of been ejected. Wade tackled collison from behind and should of been ejected and suspended but it was only a flagrant 1. Shut up and play you heat PU$$ies. Play J. Howard lol. I’d give him 2 hands to the face for coming over and talking trash during warmups. Retire bro you were useless for the magic 10 years ago and you’re useless now. Fab 5 was over 20 years ago. Last time you were a good player.

    • zeedoubleyou - May 24, 2012 at 2:03 PM

      Angry much? Enjoy your roster so stuffed with horrible contracts that Dwight would rather re-build in Brooklyn than try to contend in Orlando.

      What would make someone prefer to spend his winters in Brooklyn than Orlando? Your team.

      • BrownsTown (the 1st one, not the new guy using my name) - May 24, 2012 at 2:38 PM

        “What would make someone prefer to spend his winters in Brooklyn than Orlando?”

        Being under the age of 60?

    • nativesun77 - May 24, 2012 at 2:23 PM

      ezmagic, there is nothing scarier than some bad azz blog poster and her threats of physical violence against professional athletes…if only she was more than some girl posting comments in a blog that is.

    • kavika6 - May 24, 2012 at 2:34 PM

      Right on ezmagic!

    • southbeachtalent - May 24, 2012 at 3:07 PM

      Tackled? Man somethimes I think you guys are watching another game in some parrallel universe. It’s hard to take any of you serious.

      Keep the hate coming, I can only imagine how pumped that locker room is right now..

      • stlouis1baseball - May 24, 2012 at 3:12 PM

        Be honest South Beach. D. Wade is a punk ass who got so frustrated with his 3 point game he decided to give D. Collinson a forearm shiver. Be. Honest.

      • southbeachtalent - May 25, 2012 at 8:58 AM

        Yes that I can agree with. But he didn’t tackle the guy. C’mon

      • chicitybulls - May 24, 2012 at 3:26 PM

        I bet you can. You stay up late at night imagining all those sweaty men in the locker room. Stop “pumping”. You can go blind like that.

  7. bergeronforselke - May 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    Anyone recall how Kobe Bryant got his nose broken and a concussion….in an All Star Game?

    • girouxhasladyballs - May 24, 2012 at 1:39 PM

      wade pulled a tyler hansbrough. oh wait… the all star game was first. hansbrough pulled a wade?

  8. 1972wasalongtimeago - May 24, 2012 at 1:41 PM

    U.D. did what he had to do, suspension be damned.

    And didn’t the Pacers show their true colors after that. When Wade got decked by Hansbrough, the score was 29-25. After the FTs and possession, it was 32-25. After U.D. said, “enough is enough” in his own unique way, the Heat outscored the Pacers, 83-58 the rest of the way.

    It’s easy to flap your mouth to the press, pull the back of LBJs jersey during a fast break (twice), make “choke” signs, get in the Heat’s faces, and such; but the second you got hit hard, you were exposed for what you truly are. And Larry Bird knows it.

    I know that none of the posters here who are anti-Heat are actually Pacers fans. You’re Anybody But The Heat” fans. I get it.

    • gostlcards5 - May 24, 2012 at 2:02 PM

      Actually, you’re not correct. I’ve been a Pacers fan for years, back when Chuck Person was playing for them. I was 14 when they drafted Reggie Miller, so I’ve been through the days when they royally stunk through the Finals in 2000.

      FYI – I agree with some of the points that Heat backers make, but they have as little a right to whine about anything related to calls as the Pacers do. The Wade foul — the first “cheap” shot in this series — in Game 2 should have been an ejection, or a subsequent suspension (just like I feel about Haslem’s – NOT both). Granger has been an idiot for making every incident into a “you don’t respect us” chippy BS thing.

      On Tuesday, the Pacers played soft, just like Larry said. We’ll see if they have any heart left tonight or if the Heat took it all in the last game.

      • 1972wasalongtimeago - May 24, 2012 at 2:14 PM

        I can tell you’re a real Pacers fan because you seem like a reasonable person, and not like a total jerk. Sorry that I seem like an A-Hole in these posts but you see the kind of people of I’m dealing with here, right? Doesn’t matter who the Heat play, you get the same people making the same idiotic comments again and again. Been two years and counting. So I have to go U.D. on them sometimes. To paraphrase george Costanza, it’s them, it’s not you.

        Okay, sorry about the Wade/Collison thing. But believe me, in Game 3, Wade hurt us more than he hurt you. You were better off with him in there.

        Also, sorry about the Pittman thing. Nobody down here condones or defends it. Total bush-league BS.

        But we’re not sorry about U.D. Enough was enough. Pacers wanted to get physical, they made their intentions known in the press and with their play. So U.D. ended it. And in the same situation, he’ll do it again. Suspension deserved and accepted.

    • dexterismyhero - May 24, 2012 at 2:08 PM

      Hey 40 years ago…….The flapping is being done by both teams players and coaches.

      I am a Pacers fan. You are starting to sound like a NO Saints fan….I get it…

      • 1972wasalongtimeago - May 24, 2012 at 2:18 PM

        You’re not representing my boy gostlcards5 very well. What do NO Saints fans sound like by the way? They always seem happy to me.

      • dexterismyhero - May 24, 2012 at 3:08 PM

        1972wasalongtimeago: I’ve been a Pacers fan since the ABA when they had the likes of Mel Daniels, George McGinnis, Roger Brown, and others.

        NO Saints fine constatnly whining about bountygate with their coaches, GM, and players being suspended is what I was talking about. U.D. didn’t end anything. And if he does something like that again in the future the suspesnion will be worse.

        gostlcards5 is right on several points and Danny Granger takes some of it to seriously with getting in players faces, but c’mon pulling LeBron’s Jersey to stop a breakaway is a hard foul?

        The only gutless and cheap shots have been taken by the Heat, but hey I’m a Pcers fan and that is how I feel.

      • dexterismyhero - May 24, 2012 at 3:08 PM

        1972wasalongtimeago: I’ve been a Pacers fan since the ABA when they had the likes of Mel Daniels, George McGinnis, Roger Brown, and others.

        NO Saints fine constatnly whining about bountygate with their coaches, GM, and players being suspended is what I was talking about. U.D. didn’t end anything. And if he does something like that again in the future the suspesnion will be worse.

        gostlcards5 is right on several points and Danny Granger takes some of it to seriously with getting in players faces, but c’mon pulling LeBron’s Jersey to stop a breakaway is a hard foul?

        The only gutless and cheap shots have been taken by the Heat, but hey I’m a Pacers fan and that is how I feel.

      • 1972wasalongtimeago - May 24, 2012 at 3:24 PM

        U.D. won’t have to do it again.

    • jetstizzi85 - May 24, 2012 at 2:27 PM

      Granger is a jerk in general obviously but you talk about “enough is enough” yet make no mention to Granger getting into it with Lebron for the elbows Bron threw when fouled by Granger.

      Honestly, if Bron would have just taken the foul (they were not hard fouls by any means) I think Granger would have walked away but due to the bows being thrown back Granger felt the need to say “enough is enough”.

      Once again, not saying it was right nor am I defending anyone but just letting you know my take

      • 1972wasalongtimeago - May 24, 2012 at 2:49 PM

        Not hard fouls? Lebron his headed full steam ahead and Granger grabs his jersey and pulls him from behind. That type of play/tackle is illegal in the NFL, let alone the NBA. You could serioulsy hurt someone doing that; and Granger did it to Lebron twice. Whether that’s considered “hard” or not is in the eye off the beholder. But it’s definitely cheap. And gutless.

      • jetstizzi85 - May 24, 2012 at 3:23 PM

        Seriously, you think pulling his jersey should be a hard foul? While I agree it is uncalled for, it is nowhere near that bad of a foul. Would you rather he just let Lebron run on a fast break and score? Maybe trip him? Maybe pull his arms?

        Funny you still make NO mention to the brows thrown by Bron….could those not seriously injury a player? To quote you, “and LeBron did it twice”.

        Also, just an FYI…..a jersey pull is not illegal in the NFL its a horse collar that is

      • duane888 - May 24, 2012 at 6:09 PM

        @ Jetstizzi85

        Wrong. You pull a jersey in the NFL and you get a holding penalty.

      • jetstizzi85 - May 25, 2012 at 7:55 AM

        @ duane888 – I was making reference to your tackle comment not “holding”.

    • BrownsTown (the 1st one, not the new guy using my name) - May 24, 2012 at 2:52 PM

      It doesn’t take courage or toughness to send in a goon to cheap shot a guy that’s not even looking or is in the act of shooting a jump shot. Cheap shots aren’t tough. Sucker punches (or elbows) aren’t tough. Was Kermit Washington tough? You don’t think David West would pummel just about anybody on the Heat roster if he wanted to?

      Remember when John Chaney actually apologized for sending in a goon a few years years ago? Maybe Spoelstra can explore his conscience when he’s unemployed in the next year or two.

      • duane888 - May 24, 2012 at 3:27 PM

        It’s not a cheap shot, it’s sending a message NOT to get physical with our star player or suffer the repercussions. Every team in every sport does it. Quit cryin already you whiny Indiana fans. You really did not expect retaliation ?!?!

      • jetstizzi85 - May 24, 2012 at 4:27 PM

        Did you really say its NOT a cheap shot? So looking behind you to see who is coming then throwing an elboe into their throat isnt cheap? Is this MMA or NBA?

        I think as fans we expect retaliation but not severe ones. Was Haslems shot not enough? Why did Pittman feel the need (as a BENCH player) to throw that?

      • duane888 - May 24, 2012 at 6:18 PM

        @ Jetstizzi85

        To clarify, i was only referring to Haslem’s foul on Hansbrough as sending a message not to take liberties with our star player. Hansbrough also knew it was coming. The look on his face after the foul confirmed it.

        Pittman’s foul was unnecessary, but i guess he wanted to send a message of his own.

    • BrownsTown (the 1st one, not the new guy using my name) - May 24, 2012 at 3:01 PM

      I should acknowledge……it’s also not tough for Granger to tug a jersey or get in a player’s face. I don’t think anybody thinks Granger is tough because of that, though it is funny to watch.

      Back when LeBron was on the Cavs, Deshawn Stevenson clubbed him across the face once and LeBron didn’t do much of anything except pretend lunge at him. He’s almost like Blake Griffin in that you’d better start sticking up for yourself or it won’t stop.

      It’s also funny that LeBron’s talking about enforcers since he watched ‘Sheed Wallace crack open Zydrunas Ilgauskas’ melon and didn’t say a word.

      Just some background for perspective.

      • duane888 - May 24, 2012 at 3:34 PM

        If these fake tough guys keep it up, the NBA could turn into the NHL.

        In hockey, if a player layed a hand on Detroit Red Wings Steve Yzerman, Bob Probert would remove his head. Or if Edmonton Oilers Wayne Gretzsy was messed with, Marty McSorley would deal with that situation immediately.

  9. CaJonMcChicken - May 24, 2012 at 1:45 PM

    I’m surprised Pat Riley hasn’t taken over for this nimrod yet.

  10. metalhead65 - May 24, 2012 at 1:49 PM

    so it is ok for wade to tackle collison and is just a good clean hard foul but if the pacers at least make a effort on the ball they are cheap shot artists and dirty players? the heat are a bunch of wanna be tough guys who are nothing but dirty crybabies when they do not get their way. they may win the series but only because the pacers went away from what gave them the lead in the first place and not from any of the bully tactics used by them.

    • blueintown - May 24, 2012 at 1:56 PM

      So they are bullies AND crybaby’s? Soft AND Dirty? I knew they were versatile, but not like this.

      • 1972wasalongtimeago - May 24, 2012 at 2:43 PM

        Nicely done.

      • gmsingh - May 25, 2012 at 7:46 AM

        Are there are any bullies that don’t turn out to be crybabies? What a stupid comment.

      • blueintown - May 25, 2012 at 8:49 AM

        Well where are they on this logical evolution you propose,gmsingh? Have they evolved into crybabys from bullies? If that’s the case, how can they still be dirty? Or is it possible that people are so genuinely disenchanted with the Heat for reasons beyond even their own explanation that they simply pick the most convenient word out of a hat to express their simmering rage rooted in absolutely nothing other than the fact that the Heat are clearly better then every other team in the East, at the very least? Please, enlighten me with your wisdom.

      • gmsingh - May 26, 2012 at 12:01 PM

        Your comments make no sense. These guys are whining about hard fouls, and Wade and Pittman committed the dirtiest fouls of the whole series. The Pacers, a team that isn’t afraid to take some shots of their own, were clearly outclassed by the dirty, flagrant fouls by the Heat.

      • blueintown - May 28, 2012 at 7:04 PM

        The Pacers were outclassed by better basketball players, as is usually the case when inferior talent meets superior talent. What the Heat and Spoelstra have done is not unprecedented in professional basketball: They sent messages to their team, to the other team, and to the referees through the media. Everyone does it. Frank Vogel did it before the series even started. It is the logical pursuit of a competitive advantage, and any competitor would be silly not to pursue it.

    • zeedoubleyou - May 24, 2012 at 1:58 PM

      Yeah, having by far the two best players in the series clearly has nothing to do with it.

    • duane888 - May 24, 2012 at 3:43 PM

      So in your mind you think Indiana went ahead 2-1 in the series because they are a better team?? and not bcuz of their ‘bully’ tactics against Lebron and Wade??

      It’s really this simple. Regardless of who’s bullying who or whatever, the more talented team will be moving on!! Indiana fans just need to accept it.

      • metalhead65 - May 24, 2012 at 4:16 PM

        the pacers did not bully the heat they just did not back down from them. they went ahead of them because they used their inside game where they are stronger. sor some stupid reason they went away from that and now find themselves behind because of it. did the pacers cry and demand wade be suspended?did they tackle anybody on the heat after to get even? did they send somebody in in who never plays to to get revenge?

      • duane888 - May 24, 2012 at 6:45 PM

        @ metalhead65

        Indiana went ahead in the series bcuz Miami lost their mojo in the last 5 mins of game 2 which carried over into game 3 being a blowout. In fairness, neither team could hit a basket late in game 2, so the game could of went either way. Had Miami won, this series would of been over already.

        I wouldn’t say Indiana went away from their inside game. I would say Miami tightened up the defense (2nd half of game 4). They are the 2nd seed for a reason and it was the defense that got them there. Just ask the Knicks who are lucky they weren’t swept.

        Lastly, Miami got away from their game bcuz Indiana started to play physical. I don’t think Indiana played soft in game 5. Miami just said ok, Indy wants to be physical, so lets be physical back and see what happens. Result was a game 5 blowout.

    • brianartex - May 24, 2012 at 4:52 PM

      I’m so tired of people getting pissed about players wanting calls. Every single player lobbies for calls. Stop pointing out the false absurdity that ONLY the heat do this. Wade had an emotional game three, was awful, should have been ejected but his presence only added to our downfall that game. It’s practically a gift from the ref’s to the Pacers that he was allowed to stay.

      The Pacers have been physical bullies, are way bigger and heavier. Played like it too early in the series. They get socked in the face (once called for, albeit illegal and the other a criminal act, if you ask me) in one game and the Heat haters have the balls to call them pussies and bullies in the same breath. GIVE ME A BREAK.

      Take your licking and get out of the way as our two players beat your 5 + supposedly deep bench. Idiots

  11. sdcoach2012 - May 24, 2012 at 1:58 PM

    Mr. Helin

    Are you really going to continue to tell me that Haslem made a play on the ball?? He was nowhere near the basketball when he double-arm barred Hansbrough. I have watched the replay countless times and at no point does either hand come into contact w/the ball. Tough to block a shot with the angle he took to Hansbrough’s FACE. Enough already w/trying to put the 2 fouls in the same context. Hansbrough did in fact play the ball before following through to Wade’s face. Haslem, on the other hand, went directly to Hansbrough’s shoulder and face, at no point contacting the ball. How the ref’s din’t call a flagrant 2 on the spot should result in their suspensions also.

  12. cosmicatomic - May 24, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    Hansbrough and Haslem’s were at least within the flow of a basketball game. Dexter Pittman should be booted from the playoffs for a violent forearm shiver to a player’s neck during GARBAGE TIME.

    You can nitpick the handling of Hansbrough/Haslem by the league, but I think Pittman should have been kicked out of the playoffs. His presence doesn’t really matter to the Heat so might as well make the individual pay big time.

    • zeedoubleyou - May 24, 2012 at 2:27 PM

      If Pittman’s clearly dirty play deserves getting kicked out of the playoffs, how should the NBA have handled Stephenson throwing his g/f down a flight of stairs and then grabbing her head and slamming it into the bottom step?

      • kavika6 - May 24, 2012 at 2:40 PM

        Was that during a game?

      • zeedoubleyou - May 24, 2012 at 4:05 PM

        Don’t get me wrong, kavika, I completely understand your line of thinking.

        However, couldn’t one make the argument that the NBA’s image could benefit from cleaning up the off-the-court thug behavior like we’ve seen the NFL do the past few years?

        Regardless of when or where it happens, it’s still bad for the league as a whole.

      • abchome - May 24, 2012 at 5:37 PM

        The alleged incident didn’t happen in any NBA event and the charge was dismissed. What should/could the NBA do?

        FYI, the NBA do suspend players proved guilty of criminal charges, like Gilbert Arenas, Delonte West, Steven Jackson…to name a few.

  13. zacksdad - May 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM

    I used to respect Wade, but not anymore. He breaks Kobe’s nose in an all star game and gets nothing. But gets a cut and expects the person to get suspended.


    • wadecounty305 - May 24, 2012 at 3:22 PM

      NBA Finals MVP = Loser?

  14. cpp3 - May 24, 2012 at 2:16 PM

    This series isn’t even that bad. Does anyone remember the 90’s and previous decades playoff battles? What really bothers me is that the p*ssies on Miami (LeB*tch and Dg*y) think that the rings should just be given to them because they supposedly are the best team on paper.

  15. jetstizzi85 - May 24, 2012 at 2:21 PM

    Did I read this right…..dude says Haslem got ball? Glad these writers are “watching” the games….

    NBA players need to shut up / stop crying about being touched and play the game…..maybe they should all play QB in the NFL if they dont like to be touched

    • BrownsTown (the 1st one, not the new guy using my name) - May 24, 2012 at 2:47 PM

      It’s Kurt.

      • jetstizzi85 - May 24, 2012 at 3:25 PM

        Good point LOL

  16. lcgii23 - May 24, 2012 at 2:28 PM

    all the Pacers have done is woke the Heat up and you see the result, two loses for the Pacers.

  17. bstroum - May 24, 2012 at 2:35 PM

    Loved the commentary by the TNT crew – Kenny Smith said if it was Metta World Peace instead of Haslem, they would’ve handcuffed him right there on the court and led him off to jail!

  18. tipstopten - May 24, 2012 at 2:45 PM

    If you don’t want to be fouled stop fouling the other team, Ref and league should crack down with more ejections and more suspensions. It’s basket ball not Irish football.

  19. thenmoveback - May 24, 2012 at 2:57 PM

    I love all the haters! Just because ur crappy team isn’t in the playoffs u hate on the heat, get a life. Wade make some dirty plays yes but 90% of ball players do. Let he who cast the first stone be without sin.

    • jetstizzi85 - May 24, 2012 at 3:29 PM

      LOVE when fans start off by calling other fans “haters” LOL makes me laugh. I think we as fans just hate on players and/or coaches when they complain to the media about what they think is too physical or a “hard foul”…..its natural as a fan to be biased towards ones team, I am sure you are towards th Heat. But I guess when you talk about another team you dont consider that “hating”

  20. jh4prez - May 24, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    Total BS on the leagues part.smdh.

  21. jagwar73 - May 24, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    Anyone remember the forearm shiver to Rip Hamilton that knocked him out of bounds? How about breaking Kobe’s nose? And then running over Darren Collison, which could have caused a head bleed! This guy is out of control when frustrated. Opposing players are supposed to get out of his way. Go Boston. Karma is coming…

    • brianartex - May 24, 2012 at 5:01 PM

      You know, if I’d been in the league as long as D-Wade has, sustaining as many hard fouls and getting pulverized on as many drives to the basket as he has, I would probably be lashing out in the way he is lately, as well. I don’t condone it, don’t get me wrong. He’s getting some payback, and it’s out-of-control recently.

      These fouls being glossed over by the league and officials is not his fault, though…

  22. lucky5934 - May 24, 2012 at 4:30 PM

    Heat are like the television TNT. They know Drama! Any excuse to get an edge because these punks can’t win straight up! I hope they get Bosh back soon, because I do not want there to be any excuses from these so called “Men” when they fail to capture another championship.

  23. labratre - May 24, 2012 at 5:28 PM

    Awwwwww, get off the Heat’s sacks! You guys are all haters on here. Probably Pacer fans! Sorry, it’s over for you guys, we’ll see u in October for the preseason. Sound like to me, a lot of you on here are doing a lot of whining and crying. Just stop it and get over it, the KING and FLASH rules, GO HEAT, you all bow down, hahaha!

    • jetstizzi85 - May 24, 2012 at 5:36 PM

      Sorry man, looks like you will be the only one “bowing down” to those 2 dudes…..Maybe you should get off the Heat sack a little bit man?

      Funny though, between the KING and FLASH there is only 1 championship ring combined….might want to switch those nicknames around if I was them

  24. ceschatz - May 24, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    I love how the Heat are “whiners” but yet all i see on these posts everyday are a bunch of jealous whiners whining about the Heat’s whining. Gotta love hypocritical fans. Grow up

  25. jh4prez - May 24, 2012 at 6:57 PM

    Pullng lebrons jerzey to stop a break away dunk IS the cheapest,dirtiest foul ever to my enjoyment of the game.that should totally be a flagrant 1 every time

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