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LeBron calls Danny Granger’s tactics, technicals “stupid”

May 22, 2012, 2:53 PM EDT

Ed Malloy, LeBron James, Danny Granger AP

It took a few games, but now we’re getting some real playoff passion and disgust for the other team going.

For three straight games Danny Granger has gotten in the face of either LeBron James or Dwyane Wade, in an effort to show he and the Pacers were not going to back down from the Heat. In three straight games Granger has picked up a technical for it. It was part of the Pacers overall style to be more physical and to be pesky in this series and get under the Heat’s skin.

LeBron isn’t impressed. From ESPN:

“Whatever he’s trying, it is not working,” James said Tuesday before Game 5. “He’s said he’s not scared of LeBron, I want to let (James) know. I guess he’s doing it for his own psyche. It’s stupid.”

Granger played the “we’re not respected” card.

“That’s a product of the chip on my shoulder and we have on our shoulder as a team of not being respected. That goes not just for this series, but all year. We had the fourth or fifth best record in the NBA and I think we only had one televised game. Three or four teams that didn’t make the playoffs had more televised games than us. It was just a matter of being disrespected nationally.”

This will not be settled like it would be in the NHL playoffs, James said.

“Nobody is fighting on the basketball court. C’mon,” he said. “I’m not going to fight because I mean too much to our team and I can’t afford to be suspended for a game or do something stupid to get thrown out of a playoff game.”

Expect more posturing in Game 5. But LeBron is right in that it’s more for show and self motivation than anything else.

  1. acharlot5 - May 22, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    Granger is a joke.. Lets be real dude your not scaring anybody on the court and LeBron would mop this guy with the floor in a real fight. U want your team to be respected earn it by winning the series not by acting like ur a tough guy when your really soft as charmin ass wipes

  2. abchome - May 22, 2012 at 3:12 PM

    If you talk about it, it’s working…

    • 808raiderinparadise - May 22, 2012 at 5:24 PM

      working …. for LeBron enroute to 40pts 18reb 9dimes 2blks 2steals and Granger couldn’t do a thing. Well hey, he didn’t back down right?

      • sasquash20 - May 22, 2012 at 6:28 PM

        clearly it is working. Series is tied at 2.

    • 1972wasalongtimeago - May 22, 2012 at 11:45 PM

      And THAT, my friends, is why it was stupid.

    • caseybojangles - May 23, 2012 at 2:14 AM

      totally worked…pacers kept the loss to under 30 points…oh wait…they didn’t

    • africanballer - May 23, 2012 at 3:58 AM

      I took the pacers seriously in the beginning but not anymore, they don’t have the heart for this

  3. cantonbound13 - May 22, 2012 at 3:24 PM

    LeBron can’t get suspended, who else is going to choke in the 4th quarter of game 7 if he’s not around?

    • 1972wasalongtimeago - May 22, 2012 at 4:19 PM

      Any hateful words over the “arrogance” of Danny Granger?

      • cantonbound13 - May 24, 2012 at 6:35 AM

        Let me give you examples of LeBron’s arrogance & lack of class:
        1. Not shaking hands with any Magic players after losing to them in the playoffs.
        2. Going on Larry King Live to talk about his free agency while Kobe is playing a maningful game in the finals.
        3. The decision show
        4. Not even having the common courtesy to call the Cavs and tell them that he plans on moving on. Or making it clear he wants to be traded like Carmello did & allow the Cavs to get something in return.
        4. All the classless coments in his immature preseason victory parade, Not1, not 2…And saying they can have Pat Riley play the point & beat everybody.
        5. Him mocking Dirk in the Finals last year by coughing in front of the media.
        6. After losing in the Finals, saying he’s going to be ok going back to his nice life while the rest of us have to go back to work the next day.
        Let me remind you, I use to be a Heat fan & live in Miami. I can’t get myself to root for an arrogant & classless guy that has never won anything but calls himself “The King”. I agree with you that a lot of athletes now a days are arrogant but James is arrogant & classless.

    • southbeachtalent - May 22, 2012 at 5:11 PM

      hilarious, uber-original!!

      How about LeBron’s mom?

      Is he a good tipper?

      Is he a Diva?

      How about that Decision?

      Come on dude give us some substance. Not the same recycled, non-clever material you guys thrive on around here.

  4. professoressadiesel - May 22, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    Funny that it’s “stupid” AFTER they tied up the series.

  5. ihateclevelandandphillyandbaltimore - May 22, 2012 at 3:39 PM

    When lebron retires I wonder what all these children and grown men with all this penned up hate going to do what themselves. you have stress to relieve go exercise, the hate is embarrassing lmao I think y’all hate yourselves

  6. airjunior23 - May 22, 2012 at 3:42 PM

    But Lebron is throwin the elbows?? Stupid huh??

    • mia3423 - May 22, 2012 at 4:05 PM

      Yea after a lil girl was pulling on his jersey. Pacers are a bunch of school girls trying to act tough, lol they think they actually have a chance

    • 808raiderinparadise - May 22, 2012 at 5:26 PM

      Why not? Retaliation is what Granger is trying to get out of him?

      Well then eat a couple elbows Granger.

    • africanballer - May 23, 2012 at 4:02 AM

      Lebron simply tried to break away and free himself from fake tough guy, those are not elbows on purporse

  7. gmsingh - May 22, 2012 at 3:49 PM

    I don’t blame LeBron–clearly Granger’s tactics have prevented him from winning any championships.

    • southbeachtalent - May 22, 2012 at 5:12 PM

      Whats prevented Granger to make it to the Finals??

      Oh yeah his horrible play.

    • africanballer - May 23, 2012 at 4:12 AM

      i understand your dislike for lebron but dude you sound pathetic

      • gmsingh - May 23, 2012 at 4:06 PM

        Sarcasm is difficult for the people of lesser intelligence to follow–sorry.

  8. ocon171 - May 22, 2012 at 3:54 PM

    3rd person?? Really?? If that doesn’t scream douche, I don’t know what does.

  9. aboogy123456 - May 22, 2012 at 3:56 PM

    Pacers are winning this series but remember this post. The pacers are very close to being really good, and in order for them to get to that next level they will need to trade Danny Granger.

    I’ve watched a lot of pacers games this year, Danny Granger is a good player but he’s not really amazing on defense or one particular aspect of offense. For him to be successful, he needs to be the focal point of the offense but he really isn’t that good. It’s too common for someone better than him, like lebron, to guard him and shut him down. He takes a lot of shots without making his team better and the pacers unfortunately are too tied to how well he plays.

    He is a really good player, but IMO paul george is going to break out and be an every year all star, and granger just takes too many shots away. If I were them I would entertain the idea of packaging granger and collison for Rondo, or trying to get the best player they can that will fit in their offense and be great on defense.

    • 808raiderinparadise - May 22, 2012 at 4:09 PM

      LoL Boy George is about to be an every-year All-Star? He is a solid player …. that’s about it.

      Danny Granger is a fool, I can’t believe he would stoop so low, its the playoffs tho, He obvioulsy craves attention in the shadow of the spotlight.

      I had a lot of respect for the Pacers as a team/org and what they accomplished this season, now they are acting immature, cheap and mentally draining themselves when they have a great shot at winning this series.

      They are letting distractions pull them away from their vision. Just ask the coach.

      Still anyones series but if you think lighting a fire in LeBron is going ot help you? See:

      40pts 18reb 9dimes 2stl 2blocks

      Granger didn’t back down, he just doesn’t have enough to stop LeBron, so now he made himself look pathetic.

      LeBron is the best player in the world outside of the clutch, who knows if he will every improve in that area, BUT you just don’t fire him up Granger.

      • david0303 - May 22, 2012 at 5:21 PM

        they are acting immature for getting fired up? were the mavs last year immature for talking trash to lebron then killing him, specifically jason terry and deshawn. I wish i had been able to watch more of 90’s basketball because all they did was get in each others faces and talk trash the whole game to get themselves fired up. basketball has gotten so soft.

        i hate how ppl like you would rather see granger be passive and not get fired up just cuz hes not better than lebron. starks wasnt half the player reggie miller was but he was always in his face from the opening tip. is he pathetic too for getting outplayed?

      • 808raiderinparadise - May 23, 2012 at 4:53 PM

        LeBron dropped 40 and 30 back to back nights …. Granger is not fired up, it took him mentally away, the Pacers are not even close to as talented as Miami, they need 100% focus to have a shot. Granger be passive? Not what I suggested, but Granger can;t back it up, so why distract your team? cause a media roar and give LeBron more reason to own them like he has 2 straight games since Granger opened his mouth? Maybe you should go fishing with Granger Friday morning and you will understand.

    • florida727 - May 22, 2012 at 5:08 PM

      “aboogy”, just curious, what makes you think Boston wants a Granger/Collison for Rondo trade?

      Funny thing about fans who come up with these idiotic ideas for trades… they forget that the other side might not be stupid enough to buy into their trade idea. Rondo is either the best, or certainly in the conversation of who is the best, point guard in the NBA. If you think Boston’s going to part with him anytime soon, you’re delusional.

      • cmehustle - May 22, 2012 at 10:30 PM

        How about if they throw in a autograped Reggie Miller authentic jersey? Lol yea I too am amused when people just assume a team will just take a trade. Like those who say Pau Gasol for Dwight Howard! Idiots. But this guy has a point with trading Granger tho. Paul George is a real up and coming player and along with Hibbert they have the pieces. Get a point guard and they are going somewhere.

  10. electstat - May 22, 2012 at 4:02 PM

    LeBron just can’t get tossed in the first 3 quarters. After that, he disappears anyway..unless the game doesn’t mean anything

  11. thenmoveback - May 22, 2012 at 4:03 PM

    Granger is half the player Lebron is, just look at the numbers. As a team the pacers r talented but r missing a superstar to get them over the hill and Granger will never be that guy with a beast like Lebron covering him. Stop hating and watch the MVP play.

  12. rodge1 - May 22, 2012 at 4:09 PM

    LeBron put his elbow up to get Granger’s hand of his jersey. Every one of you would do something similar. If roles were reversed you’d be defending Granger too. I totally understand your hate of LeBron but try to use common sense. If LeBron was on your team you’d be singing a different tune.

    • mia3423 - May 22, 2012 at 4:11 PM

      Thank you

    • 808raiderinparadise - May 22, 2012 at 4:15 PM

      Thats the truth.

    • chicitybulls - May 22, 2012 at 4:29 PM

      Cmon rodge, you’re smarter than that (or at least I hope). There’s many ways to get a guy’s hand off of your jersey than to throw a bow. And what was the excuse in game 2 (or maybe it was game 1) when he threw the bow and Granger was behind him? I dont know about you or where you’re from but if a guy throws a bow that’s like throwing a punch.

      • southbeachtalent - May 22, 2012 at 4:57 PM

        And you’ve never played basketball. That fool Granger continued to pull on LeBron’s jersey way after the foul was called. That gets annoying quick.

        LeBron was acting in frustration. You know after all he is human.

        Granger is a joke. No respect?

        You have to earn respect not ask for it.

      • chicitybulls - May 22, 2012 at 5:10 PM

        Actually I played basketball growing up and still play in 3 leagues now so that was a fail. I’m one of the bigger guys in the league so I know about physical play and being annoyed but it’s directed at the refs because it’s up to them to police the game. I’ve had a person throw a bow at me once and we went at it. That’s how it goes. Consequences for throwing bows.

  13. riderpack - May 22, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    If anyone should be asking for respect it should be Lebron. He never will which is probably the right thing to do. Half of these comments are against Lebron and yet he is the best player in the world. Lebron deserves more respect

  14. mia3423 - May 22, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    I dont understand y Lebron is so hated, the only knock on his game is the dramatic flopping,besides that the guy doesn’t deserve all the hatred

  15. professoressadiesel - May 22, 2012 at 4:20 PM

    Two elbows directed at Granger’s head in consecutive games by James. Coincidence?

    Is that the only reflex James has besides throwing his hands up in the air to get a flop?

    Shame the best player in the game has to resort to those tactics.

    • heat256 - May 22, 2012 at 4:28 PM

      You calling out Garnett too for his dirty tactics? Or Blake’s flopping? Or Pierce’s drama queen antics? When the NBA does something to stop flopping, then fine. Until then, stars get the calls. Period. No one is sure as hell paying $200 to watch Brian Scalabrine and Boris Diaw as the headliners.

      • chicitybulls - May 22, 2012 at 4:33 PM

        Basketball fans pay to watch the games an competition. So you must be fine with Kobe NOT getting that 3rd foul on him last night in the 1st quarter, right? That argument, to me, is stupid. REAL basketball fans will watch a good game regardless of who’s playing. That’s why my favorite 2 players in the league is D. Rose and KD. They dont stoop to flopping or any other bs and still kill. “Stars” may get the calls but it’s still bs. IMO if you’re good enough you dont need extra calls.

      • professoressadiesel - May 22, 2012 at 4:35 PM

        I’d call out Garnett, Pierce and Griffin if they were playing in this series. But I think those 3 would be irrelevant to this conversation.

      • heat256 - May 22, 2012 at 4:38 PM

        Sadly I have not watched enopugh of KD to make a proper opinion, but DRose is starting to get the whiner’s face on the foul calls and I predict he will start to display some of the behavior that unfortunately DWade is doing now, which is not getting back on D to complain about getting hit. Basketball fans want to watch the best players in the world entertain. If so, go watch the D League then and forget about the NBA, since it’s a bunch of whiny overpaid prima donnas anyways right? I’m not condoning stars playing the refs, but it’s been going on for years. Until the NBA addresses it, it will continue.

    • 808raiderinparadise - May 22, 2012 at 4:34 PM

      Shame your a hater … Kobe flops for contact, Jordan did all the time, apparently your watching every LeBron game, move, foul, shot and hating, prob not even a Pacer fan, just some loser that wants him to fail LoL.


      Salty hater.

    • southbeachtalent - May 22, 2012 at 5:02 PM


      The only shame is how the Pacers are acting.

      40/18/9 is hardly shameful.

  16. starvingardens - May 22, 2012 at 4:30 PM

    You know what’s stupid is calling yourself “King” before ever achieving a title.

    What’s even more stupid is promising multiple titles even before you ever played a game for your team.

    And what’s more stupid than that is that you left Cleveland because you needed help from your BFF.

    LeBron… your just plain STUPID STUPID STUPID!

    I hope Indiana beats the Heat. I’d prefer to see them advance because they are just a better overall team.

    • 808raiderinparadise - May 22, 2012 at 4:36 PM

      hahaahahh hater

      • starvingardens - May 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM


        Nah… Just like thousands of people that follow the game, I just didn’t like what he did. I mean I respect his game and all and is likely to be an all-time great. (Except in the last two minutes of a game.)

  17. 1972wasalongtimeago - May 22, 2012 at 4:31 PM

    Here’s why it’s stupid. When you’re the underdog, you have certain advantages. Among those advantages are the ability to play loose. Nobody expects you to win, so the fans get behind you. Good things happen, and you ride the wave. Exhibit A: the 2011 Dallas Mavericks.

    What Granger and the Pacers have done did by going “tough guy” and flashing “choke” signs was to give up the underdog status. Once they went up 2-1, they started acting and talking like they deserved to be the favorites. And things are alot different when you’re the favorite. Fans no longer find you loveable. They expect greatness. And when you don’t deliver greatness, you start to realize that maybe you’re not that great. You start playing tight. And when your opponent senses this, they start playing loose. And inevitably, the loose team wins.

    In essence, the Pacers did what Miami has been getting killed for since July 2010. They started acting like they were something before they were something. And in addition, they woke up their opponent. In the Heat’s case since July 2010, they have been able to overcome the motivated and pissed off opponent because of their talent. The Pacers don’t necessarily have the talent to overcome what the Heat can do to them.

    So that’s why it’s stupid. And that’s why I love it. Keep talking Granger. LeBron craps bigger than you.

    • southbeachtalent - May 22, 2012 at 5:00 PM

      Poke the giant enough and he will respond.

  18. drewzducks - May 22, 2012 at 4:34 PM

    If Granger wants to get in his head he could always pull a Delonte and shag Momma Lebron.

  19. rodge1 - May 22, 2012 at 4:38 PM

    I see your point dude. But Granger has been getting in LeBron’s face for years now. So you really think LeBron is adirty player or more dirty than any other player? Imagine it was D Rose. The comments would be totally different. All because of the Decision, which happened almost 2 years ago. They’re basketball players not preachers. If Granger is so tough then he should take it a step further… But he’s not so he won’t. Just saying dude

    • chicitybulls - May 22, 2012 at 4:47 PM

      I dont think he’s more dirty than any other player but those were dirty plays. No need for bows. D. Rose went through the dirty play of some of the Pacers last year when Greg Foster threw a bow at him on a drive to the lane. I killed him for that. Rose wouldn’t do anything like that. Even with Foster he went up to him but didn’t throw any punch/bow/whatever. He let him know he’s not going to stand for it and that was the end of that. Didn’t happen again.

      @ heat256
      haven’t seen many KD games? And you call yourself a basketball fan? Shame on you.

      • heat256 - May 22, 2012 at 5:00 PM

        Sorry dude. I’m on the East Coast and can’t stay up until all hours to watch those games. i’m a fan, but I have priorities.

      • chicitybulls - May 22, 2012 at 5:12 PM

        They’re in the midwest. Not like they’re in Cali or something. You sound like Tony Kornheiser. lol. Bed by 9? lol.

      • heat256 - May 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM

        I work full time and am in grad school. Bed by 9 would be almost as welcome as relations with the wife (again, priorities). I’ll catch some of their games on Friday nights when I can. I try to snag tix through work when the good teams are in town, but more often than not I’m given the finger, and I don’t mean the thumbs up.

  20. lanza2 - May 22, 2012 at 4:38 PM

    Sounds like a bunch of LeBron haters to me. Sorry Kobe has been eliminated again and his time has past. MVP, King James, is here and ready to rule the empire we call the NBA

  21. charlutes - May 22, 2012 at 4:43 PM

    Granger is just tired of dealing with the divas. shut up lebron stop crying

    • southbeachtalent - May 22, 2012 at 5:04 PM

      simple solution.. beat them.

      However, I like his method better. Get T’ed up and rattle LeBron’s cage. That should work out great!!

  22. rodge1 - May 22, 2012 at 4:43 PM


    He said something to fans at a pep-rally for the city. Maybe not the smartest thing to say but meant no harm. He’s just a basketball player. His ‘King’ title was created by the media and the fans before he turned 21 years old. He left Cleveland because their crappy owner did nothing to build a good team around him. You would have left too. Charles Barkley wanted to be traded, Kareem wanted to be traded, and a long list of others too. Get over the hate you hypocrite

    • starvingardens - May 22, 2012 at 5:25 PM

      Hypocrite… hardly. Although fans and media may have created it, he admittedly called himself “King James” here is one of the links:

      And having a tat on his back that says Chosen 1… C’mon. Oh… don’t forget about the one says Loyalty. He’s trying to live up to the hype, and is failing.

      The owner in Cleveland did basically anything that Lebron asked for. He was all-in with him, but Lebron obviously didn’t feel the same. That pep-rally for the city was called “The Decision” he just did that way wrong.

      Would I have left… probably not. If I were treated the way that LeBron had been treated why would anyone leave. Barkley was chasing a ring on the tail end of his career. LeBron is just entering his peak. Kareem went from the Bucks to the Lakers. Where did he go to college??? UCLA right?

      Hypocrite… nope. Voicing my opinion yup.

  23. reupjosh - May 22, 2012 at 5:18 PM

    None of this matters. Whoever comes out of the East isn’t going to get too far with whoever it is comes out of the west. A month from now we won’t remember any of these teams lame charades.

  24. slippyal2 - May 22, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    As Kobe would say, Danny Granger can’t sit at Lebron’s lunch table. All bark and no bite, getting in people’s faces knowing the refs will protect you is pathetic.

  25. furio2929 - May 22, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    Lebron wouldn’t be talking bout it if it didn’t bother him. Danny is not the first nor the last player to talk trash. It’s part of the game. If u talk BS to a star player on or off the court, then u might have hit them mentally where he is constantly thinking about it. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t. Just ask Kevin Garnet. He is a pro at trash talking.

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